I'm gonna second this. Like Jesusfreak said, the offensive pressure Bisharp has allows more room to build with the rest of the pokes, and can help against stall thanks to Knock Off.
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I'm gonna second this. Like Jesusfreak said, the offensive pressure Bisharp has allows more room to build with the rest of the pokes, and can help against stall thanks to Knock Off.
3fiddy
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Jus putting my thoughts out there since there's not a lot if action. Feel free to point out why or why not. I'm a noob so critiques I'm sure are necessary.
For Mega Gardevoirs Steel counter I rank them this way. 1 being the highest.
1. Heatran It's jus perfect IMO. Typing Etc. There's a Kings Shield and then there's a Lava Dome
2. Bisharp Utility plus boosting opportunity. Read yesterday a Banded sucker punch OHKO 'd a Gardevoir. Powerful stuff.
3 my Landorus. Great physical attacker , intimidate utility , and Uturn.
For Mega Gardevoirs Steel counter I rank them this way. 1 being the highest.
1. Heatran It's jus perfect IMO. Typing Etc. There's a Kings Shield and then there's a Lava Dome
2. Bisharp Utility plus boosting opportunity. Read yesterday a Banded sucker punch OHKO 'd a Gardevoir. Powerful stuff.
3 my Landorus. Great physical attacker , intimidate utility , and Uturn.
The DragonKnight
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Sorry for being a little late, but here are the nominations we will be voting for :]
Saph~'s SDef Heatran
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The Imposter's U-Turn Mandibuzz[/URL]
jesusfreak94's Pursuit Bisharp
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3fiddy's Scarf Landorus-T & Lead Galvantula
Deadline to vote is the 8th.
Saph~'s SDef Heatran[URL="http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/630.png"]
The Imposter's U-Turn Mandibuzz[/URL]
jesusfreak94's Pursuit Bisharp
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3fiddy's Scarf Landorus-T & Lead GalvantulaDeadline to vote is the 8th.
Do we just vote for one this time or three like last time? I'm going to assume one for now and vote for Bisharp.
The DragonKnight
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Just one since we'd be voting for all but one set this time around.
Manectrifier
AKA Treecko
Mandibuzz I could live with Heatran and Bisharp as well, though.
Actually, Dread Plate would probably be better since the set has Pursuit > Swords Dance, come to think of it. I'll edit that in. Thanks!
The Imposter
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Definitely the Bisharp, Gardesharp is scary for both stall and offense alike
KillerDraco
Well-Known Member
Bisharp for sure. The ability to trap Aegislash is invaluable, since not only is it a huge problem for Mega Garde, but also a lot of teams rely so heavily upon it.
The DragonKnight
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My bad guys, I was really busy last few days and completely blanked on this >_>
Obviously Bisharp won this round so time to nominate our third member! Remember our playstyle is balanced. Our team so far:
Gardevoir (F) @ Gardevoirite
Trait: Trace
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Hyper Voice
- Psyshock
- Focus Blast
- Taunt
Bisharp @ Dread Plate
Trait: Defiant
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
-Sucker Punch
-Iron Head
-Knock Off
-Pursuit
Deadline to nominate is the 15th
Obviously Bisharp won this round so time to nominate our third member! Remember our playstyle is balanced. Our team so far:
Gardevoir (F) @ Gardevoirite
Trait: Trace
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Hyper Voice
- Psyshock
- Focus Blast
- Taunt
Bisharp @ Dread Plate
Trait: Defiant
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
-Sucker Punch
-Iron Head
-Knock Off
-Pursuit
Deadline to nominate is the 15th
Manectrifier
AKA Treecko
Garchomp @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Rough Skin
EVs: 8 HP / 224 Atk / 24 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Fire Blast
- Outrage
- Earthquake
Garchomp is a great choice for a balanced team. It forms a Fairy/Steel/Dragon core together with Gardevoir and Bisharp, and also provides an Electric immunity and Stealth Rocks. Fire Blast lures out Ferrothorn and Skarmory, Helmet punishes Rapid Spinners, all standard stuff. The cool thing about Garchomp is that often people are forced to revenge kill it with an Outrage from another Dragon, giving us a free turn with Gardevoir.
36 SDef Ev's to always survive Thundy's HP Ice after Rocks when it doesn't carry a boosting item. Negative nature for Fire Blast doesn't really matter because you 2HKO Ferro and Skarm regardless of nature.
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Fun fact: with a spread of 8 HP / 224 Atk / 24 SpD / 252 Spe, you can still survive Leftovers Thundurus's HP Ice after Stealth Rock and have both a tiny bit more physical bulk and an extra point in Atk. Not a huge deal, but it's something to consider. That aside, I really like Garchomp. It's one of those Pokemon that you can toss on just about anywhere and it will probably make the team better. This set gives us Stealth Rock, which is a must for a team trying to utilize a wallbreaker like Mega Gardevoir, and it offers pretty nice offensive presence in its own right. This is kind of the road I wanted to go down if I were to make a nomination later (strong and bulky Stealth Rock user), so Garchomp fits the bill really well. The other things I was considering nominating are Stealth Rock Terrakion or Landorus (maybe even Landorus-T), but I might think those over and nominate one later.
Manectrifier
AKA Treecko
Thanks for noting that. I edited in your spread.
megawurmple
Active Member
Aegislash seems very threatening to the two Pokemon we have so far. Gardevoir is weak to Ghost and steel, and can't really dent 'Slash with the current moveset. Bisharp fares better, getting off a super-effective dark type move, but it is easily OHKO'd by Sacred Sword. Given how strong 'Slash is in the current metagame, a counter is needed.
The solution?
;479-w;
Rotom Wash is, in my experience, one of the best counters to Aegislash in the game. Will-O-Wisp cripples it completely, and then 'Slash goes down after a couple of Hydro Pumps or T-Bolts. Rotom-W also boasts the ability to take down most physical attackers with its good typing and Will-O-Wisp. The bulk it brings is a nice balance to the power and relative frailty of Gardevoir and Bisharp, stopping sweepers before they can kill our biggest threats. The specific set is this:
Physical tank Rotom
Item: Lefties
Nature: Bold (+Def, -Atk)
EVs: 252 HP/168 Def/88 Spd
Hydro Pump
Thunderbolt
Will-O-Wisp
Substitute
This set is designed to tank physical hits like a champion. Hydro Pump and Thunderbolt give Rotom good STAB coverage. Will-O-Wisp cripples physical attackers and slowly kills them. Substitute can be set up before knocking out one pokemon so that you get a free hit on the next. This is particularly useful if you use the free hit to land a Will-O-Wisp, enabling a safer switch-in for your next pokemon. It also allows Rotom to act as a pseudo-wallbreaker: it stops non-attacking moves from hitting him, and he's bulky enough that the sub will probably last a couple of turns, allowing you to wait for them to die of burns if they don't switch out beforehand.
The EVs in speed allow Rotom to outrun threats such as Scizor, meaning that he can get in a Will-O-Wisp or Substitute before they can do anything about it. The rest of the EVs are to make him as bulky as possible.
The solution?
;479-w;
Rotom Wash is, in my experience, one of the best counters to Aegislash in the game. Will-O-Wisp cripples it completely, and then 'Slash goes down after a couple of Hydro Pumps or T-Bolts. Rotom-W also boasts the ability to take down most physical attackers with its good typing and Will-O-Wisp. The bulk it brings is a nice balance to the power and relative frailty of Gardevoir and Bisharp, stopping sweepers before they can kill our biggest threats. The specific set is this:
Physical tank Rotom
Item: Lefties
Nature: Bold (+Def, -Atk)
EVs: 252 HP/168 Def/88 Spd
Hydro Pump
Thunderbolt
Will-O-Wisp
Substitute
This set is designed to tank physical hits like a champion. Hydro Pump and Thunderbolt give Rotom good STAB coverage. Will-O-Wisp cripples physical attackers and slowly kills them. Substitute can be set up before knocking out one pokemon so that you get a free hit on the next. This is particularly useful if you use the free hit to land a Will-O-Wisp, enabling a safer switch-in for your next pokemon. It also allows Rotom to act as a pseudo-wallbreaker: it stops non-attacking moves from hitting him, and he's bulky enough that the sub will probably last a couple of turns, allowing you to wait for them to die of burns if they don't switch out beforehand.
The EVs in speed allow Rotom to outrun threats such as Scizor, meaning that he can get in a Will-O-Wisp or Substitute before they can do anything about it. The rest of the EVs are to make him as bulky as possible.