PocketmonMaster
Upgraded?
One word.
Tyranitar.
Problem solved.
Tyranitar.
Problem solved.
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Shedinja
- Thread starter Nidoprince
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Metagross Guy
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Whats not fair about him?
He has 1HP and SOME moves hit him >_>
He has 1HP and SOME moves hit him >_>
CaptainX24
Well-Known Member
Yes, Shedinjas are terrible. So vulnerable, yet they are protected from almost everything. That's why I like to use my Tyranitar that knows Rock Slide.
Volt of Noid
<-- Best Shiny ever
It really must suck, I know It'll happen to me sometime, but it's not unfair really because Shedinja isn't banned from you using it like legendaries are. Also, you have to be prepared for it when you pick a bug or ghost type. It's almost certain to pop up because the game has a thing for picking pokemon with duel types.
So my point is, if you can use it then they can use it and you have to be prepared for the worst really.
So my point is, if you can use it then they can use it and you have to be prepared for the worst really.
Calm PokeMaster
Well-Known Member
Depends on what you use........its not always fair or always unfair.Just depends on luck.
Arceus1308
Megafan of Pokemon
fair but annoying(think if you're streak 119 at battle hall & shedinja appear.you don't have the right attack)
dragon-dark-master
Thanks SPPf. TTYL
In any sort of team, or in this case a single Pokemon, you have to plan for one. Or just not choose to battle Bug or Ghost types. :|
Gallade20772
GAME OVER.
What is wrong with you people!? OF COURSE IT'S UNFAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I mean, why is there such thing as Wonder Guard!? If you can get in contact with Nintendo PLEASE can you give them my message???
Pkmn Breeder Jack
Static owns you.
Nope, not unfair at all. 1 HP and several weaknesses. Just have to remember him before making the challenge.
TheFightingPikachu
Smashing!
A Study On Shedinja
First of all, I would like to thank Nidoprince for posting this thread. This is an excellent topic. I remember voting in this poll (to say that Shedinja is not unfair) when less than 100 people had voted. When I voted, I decided to study Shedinja more closely, to provide support for my vote. So, here are the results of a study I conducted with my brother, ShinySandshrew. (Thanks for your help bro!)
I am using the information on Shedinja found in the Platinum Battle Tower Database:
What Defeats Shedinja
Ordinary Moves of Various Types:
Fire
Flying
Rock
Ghost
Dark
Interestingly enough, these types make up 29% of all types.
Special Conditions:
Poison
Burn
Confusion
Since almost any Pokemon can learn the move Toxic (TM 06), and this move can be obtained repeatedly at the Battle Frontier (32 BP), Poisoning Shedinja is highly recommended.
Other Conditions:
Leech Seed
Curse (Ghost)
Nightmare (after causing Sleep)
Weather Moves:
Sandstorm
Hail
Abilities:
Sand Stream
Snow Warning
Mold Breaker
Poison Point
Flame Body
Effect Spore (only if it causes Poison)
Some of these are a bit redundant because all the Pokemon that have Mold Breaker can learn a Rock-type move. Rampardos is a Rock-type, and should have a Rock-type move anyway.
Copying Moves:
Mirror Move
Copycat
Mimic
This category is not recommended. You may be able to copy Shadow Sneak, then K.O. Shedinja, but this could be difficult. Be careful when using Mimic. If you copy Fury Cutter, you can’t defeat it that way! The move Me First is ineffective because it must be used first, yet can never be used before Shadow Sneak.
Other Moves:
Gastro Acid
Worry Seed
Future Sight (and probably Doom Desire)
The moves Gastro Acid and Worry Seed remove Shedinja’s pesky ability. Shedinja is then vulnerable to all types of move types except Normal and Fighting. Apparently Future Sight completely ignores Shedinja’s ability.
Items:
Jaboca or Rowap Berry
Jaboca Berry damages Shedinja when it uses a physical attack on your Pokemon, defeating it instantly! According to the Platinum Battle Tower Database, Shedinja has only physical attack moves. Jaboca Berry can be an extremely easy way to solve your Shedinja problem. Rowap Berry does the same thing for special moves. If you came across a Shedinja that used Shadow Ball, Rowap Berry would defeat it instantly.
If You Have Nothing Else:
Hidden Power (Fire, Flying, Rock, Ghost, or Dark)
Natural Gift (See this page: http://www.serebii.net/games/naturalgift.shtml)
Almost every Pokemon that can learn TM moves can learn Hidden Power and Natural Gift.
There are also some moves that can defeat Shedinja, but do nothing at the Battle Hall. A good example would be Stealth Rock. This move would knock out Shedinja, but it does not work at the Battle Hall where Pokemon fight one-on-one.
I hope I have provided good reason to the majority view that Shedinja should be allowed in the Battle Hall. I don’t mean nobody should vote in the poll anymore, just that people should be informed of how much can defeat Shedinja. By all means, please vote in the poll. But vote responsibly.
First of all, I would like to thank Nidoprince for posting this thread. This is an excellent topic. I remember voting in this poll (to say that Shedinja is not unfair) when less than 100 people had voted. When I voted, I decided to study Shedinja more closely, to provide support for my vote. So, here are the results of a study I conducted with my brother, ShinySandshrew. (Thanks for your help bro!)
I am using the information on Shedinja found in the Platinum Battle Tower Database:
I am assuming that the Pokemon in the Battle Hall are identical to those in the Tower. (If they are not, feel free to PM me.) This data indicates that Shedinja has only physical moves in the Battle Hall. Remember this.
What Defeats Shedinja
Ordinary Moves of Various Types:
Fire
Flying
Rock
Ghost
Dark
Interestingly enough, these types make up 29% of all types.
Special Conditions:
Poison
Burn
Confusion
Since almost any Pokemon can learn the move Toxic (TM 06), and this move can be obtained repeatedly at the Battle Frontier (32 BP), Poisoning Shedinja is highly recommended.
Other Conditions:
Leech Seed
Curse (Ghost)
Nightmare (after causing Sleep)
Weather Moves:
Sandstorm
Hail
Abilities:
Sand Stream
Snow Warning
Mold Breaker
Poison Point
Flame Body
Effect Spore (only if it causes Poison)
Some of these are a bit redundant because all the Pokemon that have Mold Breaker can learn a Rock-type move. Rampardos is a Rock-type, and should have a Rock-type move anyway.
Copying Moves:
Mirror Move
Copycat
Mimic
This category is not recommended. You may be able to copy Shadow Sneak, then K.O. Shedinja, but this could be difficult. Be careful when using Mimic. If you copy Fury Cutter, you can’t defeat it that way! The move Me First is ineffective because it must be used first, yet can never be used before Shadow Sneak.
Other Moves:
Gastro Acid
Worry Seed
Future Sight (and probably Doom Desire)
The moves Gastro Acid and Worry Seed remove Shedinja’s pesky ability. Shedinja is then vulnerable to all types of move types except Normal and Fighting. Apparently Future Sight completely ignores Shedinja’s ability.
Items:
Jaboca or Rowap Berry
Jaboca Berry damages Shedinja when it uses a physical attack on your Pokemon, defeating it instantly! According to the Platinum Battle Tower Database, Shedinja has only physical attack moves. Jaboca Berry can be an extremely easy way to solve your Shedinja problem. Rowap Berry does the same thing for special moves. If you came across a Shedinja that used Shadow Ball, Rowap Berry would defeat it instantly.
If You Have Nothing Else:
Hidden Power (Fire, Flying, Rock, Ghost, or Dark)
Natural Gift (See this page: http://www.serebii.net/games/naturalgift.shtml)
Almost every Pokemon that can learn TM moves can learn Hidden Power and Natural Gift.
There are also some moves that can defeat Shedinja, but do nothing at the Battle Hall. A good example would be Stealth Rock. This move would knock out Shedinja, but it does not work at the Battle Hall where Pokemon fight one-on-one.
I hope I have provided good reason to the majority view that Shedinja should be allowed in the Battle Hall. I don’t mean nobody should vote in the poll anymore, just that people should be informed of how much can defeat Shedinja. By all means, please vote in the poll. But vote responsibly.