lol Avegaille. XD It's alright, I'll strike it off from the list.
I didn't read through everyones post, because I'm sick of the arguing over such a petty subject that was not meaning any harm in the first place.
It's just a debate, on a Pokemon forum no less. It's not meant to be taken so seriously.
It's for fun, and it's a great on helping the opposing side understand the "rival" ship. That is why debates were suggested in the first place - they were not suggested to put down any ship whatsoever.
My opinion - It's honestly stupid to not debate Pokeshipping vs. Pearlshipping. Pearlshipping is the current Ash/main girl shipping that has a chance at this point and time, and Pokeshipping is still one of the Ash shippings with the most hints. There is no reason why it should not be debated. Debating old things like Advanceshipping vs. Contestshipping is not any fun nor is it interesting. It has been done to death. Pokeshipping vs. Pearlshipping is new and exciting. It would make a great read for many shippers.
But hey, after reading these posts, I'll just give the people what they want - no Pokeshipping vs. Pearlshipping debate. The immaturity some of you have displayed over the concept of a debate leads me to believe that they would not work out either way. How stupid I was to think that people could handle it.
Yet, where do debates about Pokémon shippings lead us? Remember, Pearlshipping is not over yet, so the discussion would not be fair and I'm not saying this because I'm a pearlshipper.
So what? It doesn't matter if the ship is on-going, that's what makes the debate even more interesting. We still had Pokeshipping vs. Advanceshipping back in AG. This kind of makes me miss those times. The Advanceshippers had such confidence in themselves and were more than happy to debate. It was really a lot of fun with them.
debating stuff like that or hints isn't really helpful as it personal like to what is a hint and what not.
That's the point of a shipping debate - trying to prove the shipping(s) has hints. ._.; Many fandoms have shipping debates. The other two Pokemon forums have shipping debates. There is no reason why we can't have them here. If you don't want to participate, you don't have to, either.
I had no idea people had such skewed views of debates and shippers in general. I also had no idea people had such a negative view on shippers. Shippers Community was NEVER like this before. Shippers had confidence in themselves and had no problem avoiding flamewars. I don't understand what happened, but I'll be frank, it really pisses me off, and makes me feel sad for this community. It's definitely not as it once was after reading through this thread.
Read Mel-Girl's post. Mel-Girl is right about this place being boring, and that it's time to take a step up. You guys have no idea how many people look at this place and think it is lame because there is nothing interesting to do here but discuss shippings. Shippers would rather go to BMGf because it is way more interesting and fun to discuss shipping over there. Shipping debates are one of the most important things in other fandoms on other forums. They used to be very big here in this forum, too. It's what made Shippers Community interesting. Nowadays, this place is collecting dust, and none of the shippers I speak to really don't even enjoy coming here at all and would rather discuss shippings over MSN/elsewhere. Hell, I don't even like coming here, and I'd rather post in Alternative Shipping at the very least.
Like she said, debates could be a great thing, but the negativity that some of you are focusing on are making it a bad thing. It doesn't have to be a bad thing at all. Debating maturely is never a bad thing. I have faith that people in this community are mature enough to handle a debate after a year without them.
The Shippers Manifesto would also be very interesting. As Mel-Girl said, without very many debates, there is really no use in making one. It would be a great addition to this community, because I don't think any other Pokemon forum has one. Without very many debates, it is nothing, and will not happen. Please think about that.
Though it looks like this place is going to stay boring and collect dust. I really don't care anymore, honestly. As you guys said, it only takes a few people to ruin it for everyone, and guess what? You ruined it for me, Yeti, CyberCubed, Tom Nook, Mel-Girl, and many other people. Thank you.
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anyone at all is still interested in setting up a debate (Rocket Girl - if you want to create a Rocketshipping debate, you can!), PM me and I'll help you set it up.
Also if you are creating a debate - there will also be no Poke/Advance, Advance/Contest, or Poke/Orange debates. Don't even try to set those up, or you will be infracted. There is no point in debating those. Just fyi. The Debate Input thread will be open soon, so this may soon change.