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Should *insert Pokemon* know *insert move*?

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Auraninja

Eh, ragazzo!
Hi, this is Psychic Politoed, and I made this thread so people can ask if certain Pokemon should know certain moves. Feel free to ask if you want to know if a Pokemon should know a certain move?

Here is my question.
Should Umbreon know Toxic?

Answer my question or ask your own, and quoting the question to answer it makes it a lot easier.
 
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psychic politoed said:
Should Umbreon know Toxic?

I don't see why not, it's just as effective/ineffective on it as every other Pokémon. People just like it on Umbreon because of its big Defensive Stats.

My question is kind of the opposite of Poli's(you don't mind if I call you that, do you? =D ), it's not why, it's why not. Why doesn't Gyarados learn Aerial Ace? I have plenty of reasons why it should've, but I'll leave the answering and debating to the NextPoster.

~*CB*~
The 8th Champion
 

Tropical Spirit

YAY! Original>You =3
Because the programmers hate Gyrados and want the n00bs to give their in-game Gyrados the 'Thunder-Hydro Pump-Fire Blast-Blizzard' MS. =D

And How the f*ck Dewgong learns Signal Beam? Same goes to ML Cleffa.
 

Tazzler

Well-Known Member
~*Commander Blizzard*~ said:
I don't see why not, it's just as effective/ineffective on it as every other Pokémon. People just like it on Umbreon because of its big Defensive Stats.

My question is kind of the opposite of Poli's(you don't mind if I call you that, do you? =D ), it's not why, it's why not. Why doesn't Gyarados learn Aerial Ace? I have plenty of reasons why it should've, but I'll leave the answering and debating to the NextPoster.

~*CB*~
The 8th Champion
It has tiny wings?

The main competitive set for umbreon is
Baton pass
healing Move
Mean look
Taunt

But in-game or even the metagame you could find use of toxic on umbreon.
 
ChaosMage said:
And Diglett's wings are bloody massive!
XD, my thoughts exactly. Aerial Ace isn't a wing attack, it's just a speedy, lethal strike. And really, if ARMALDO can learn it, why not Gyarados?(nothing against Armaldo, but it's slow, and the point of the attack is Speed ._.).

I'm serious, Tropius Master, I want a definitive reason why Gyarados can't learn Aerial Ace. Not sarcasm. It works fine without it, but that Hidden Power could be put to better uses rather than functioning as the Flying Move it never got...

~*CB*~
The 8th Champion
 

Auraninja

Eh, ragazzo!
Why doesn't Gyarados learn Aerial Ace?
Why doesn't Politoed learn Calm Mind?

Gamefreak will make mistakes like that. Aerial Ace is a speedy attack and Flying type Pokemon as well as wind oriented Pokemon, like Shiftry, can learn it. Speedy Pokemon can learn it too.
 

Tropical Spirit

YAY! Original>You =3
~*Commander Blizzard*~ said:
I'm serious, Tropius Master, I want a definitive reason why Gyarados can't learn Aerial Ace. Not sarcasm. It works fine without it, but that Hidden Power could be put to better uses rather than functioning as the Flying Move it never got...
I don't know. It is sleet, it is sharpy, it is fast... I REALLY dunno. >__>;;

And why Exeggutor doesn't have CM is another mystery to me. I mean, SLOWBRO can learn it. >__>
 
Tropius Master said:
And why Exeggutor doesn't have CM is another mystery to me. I mean, SLOWBRO can learn it. >__>

Well, Slowbro's mind is quite calm(understatement much). And Exeggutor doesn't really need the boost, it would ruin its already excellent StandardSet. Meh, could work in 00ber Battles where you don't need Sunny Day.

~*CB*~
The 8th Champion
 

Volteon

Back I guess??
well, occtilery´s bullet seed, flametrower, fire blast, psychic (IMO, it´s really strange)
well, for psychic, I think that octopusses are the most evolved animal in the true life, and they are in the 1st (or 2nd) in the list of the smartest animals (according with animal planet), but I really don´t know about the others.
I´ll post more things, because I know that are more.
 

Tazzler

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Haven't you noticed that all AA pokemon have wings or claws?or scythers or something of that sort.
Meh, i dunno why Dos doesn't learn AA.
Why rapidash doesn't learn EQ when a little bear and a seel can learn it? All over ungulates learn EQ.
 
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Auraninja

Eh, ragazzo!
This thread is becoming something different than what i imagine. ;_; Anyway, I thought it would be cool if Umbreon knew Toxic because his Leaf Green Pokedex entry says, "When agitated, this Pokemon protects itself by spraying poisonous sweat from its pores."

Here's another question.

Should Swampert know Muddy Water?

I see some people who don't teach Swampert the move. Even though it is not the most accurate move, it has a base power of 95 and has a 30% chance of lowered accuracy.
 

ChaosMage

Izit cuz I is black?
Some moves are there for game-ralated reasons. For instance, Charmander learning Metal Claw is because all starters should have an advantage against Brock. Can anyone else think of an example of this?

A really wierd one to me is that Lombre can learn Thief...
 

Tropical Spirit

YAY! Original>You =3
ChaosMage said:
A really wierd one to me is that Lombre can learn Thief...
It's based after a mexican. 'Nuff said. >__>

And Jynx with Lick is just wrong. :p
 

Ilex

Oddish plzkthnxbai
Tropius Master said:
It's based after a mexican. 'Nuff said. >__>

Racist much?

Anyway(<_<), I think that Oddish should learn RazorLeaf.

TazzlerLuva said:
Haven't you noticed that all AA pokemon have wings or claws?or scythers or something of that sort.

Then how does Dugtrio learn it?
 

Tropical Spirit

YAY! Original>You =3
.:Ilex:. said:
Racist much?
Blame NOJ much? >___>
I was just pointing the fact out. I never said I agreed with it. >___> STFU.

And the fact Absol can't learn Earthquake even if it is the disaster pokemon makes me feel sad inside. ;_;
 
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blackice2

'tis a penguin...
bannete screech?
wbbuffet/wynaut tickle?(no fingers)
rapidash no eq
most pkemon with thunder wave shouldnt be able to generate electicity
many others...
 

SlimShady

Kill your heroes
What about a Hyper beam Pikachu or a Nidoking and a Nidoqueen with cut? Nidoking has sharp claws, so why can't it learn cut? And why can't Salamence learn ice beam or surf?
 
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Ilex

Oddish plzkthnxbai
Tropius Master said:
Blame NOJ much? >___>
I was just pointing the fact out. I never said I agreed with it. >___> STFU.

And the fact Absol can't learn Earthquake (IIRC) makes me feel sad inside. ;_;


Don't tell me to STFU for pointing out something that made you look like a racist.

Just a misunderstanding :). And wtf does NOJ mean?
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I think that more Pokemon such as Electrike should learn Volt Tackle.
 
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Dunsparce

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Missguided N00b said:
Why Can't Ampharos/Charizard get Tail Glow?!?!?!?

Before anyone says it, I'll say something that I've said about 20 times already in this forum: FIREFLY LIGHT IS ITS NAME IN JAPAN!!!
That's also why only Volbeat can get it.
 
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