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Should Ran/Rachel keep on waiting for Shinichi/Jimmy?

Agustus

Well-Known Member
I did not see any thread like this, so if I missed it, mods, say...

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This thread is to discus if you think Ran/Rachel from Detective Conan/Case Closed should keep on waiting for her High School Honey, Shinich/Jimmy.

I say it's moronic of her. She loves him, I know, but it's been over 10 damn years, just move on already! Honestly, the way she acts about him makes her look pathetic. Remember the second episode? She beat that guy's a** easily, and then she just acts weak the second the spotlight's off her.

Shinichi (as Conan,) could go with Shiho (Ai), which is the most plausable solution seeing that they are both shrunk, and they have to work together to save themselves.

Honestly, if the seires hadn't lasted as long, I could understand that. But I think the most she could have waited was a year. It would kill someone to have to wait for me for a year, (not like that's gonna happen.) As a matter a fact, I support Shinichi x Ran, but I think it ain't gonna happen...

Discus.
 

RadiataAlchemist

ShattrdNghtmare
Someone doesn't know anything of true love. If there is a certain person that you truly love, it doesn't matter how long they've been gone. If she truly loves Shinichi, then even if she wanted to move on she wouldn't be able to think of anyone but him, especially if she was convinced that he would come back. And, if this is the case, she should continue waiting. Besides, put yourself in his shoes. How would you feel if you were Shinichi and Ran just gave up on you. He'd know it because he'd mostly likely hear her say something about giving up. That would crush him.
 
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Chris

Old Coot
Has the anime even stated that 10 years have passed? o_O Seriously, most of the time people seem to think that real time = anime time, which is usually NEVER true.

Shinichi makes sure to keep in contact with Ran with his regular voice, so it's not like he's flat out abandoned her. Not to mention, it's become apparent to him that a certain drinky drink makes him his normal self for a while.

In fact, probably one of the main reasons Shinichi is even trying this hard to regain his former self is so that he can finally confess his feelings to Ran (aside from trying to catch the ones who shrunk him into a kid).

Ran's known Shinichi since they were kids, so I highly doubt he would be someone she would just drop and forget about.
 

RadiataAlchemist

ShattrdNghtmare
Edward Elric said:
Has the anime even stated that 10 years have passed? o_O Seriously, most of the time people seem to think that real time = anime time, which is usually NEVER true.

Shinichi makes sure to keep in contact with Ran with his regular voice, so it's not like he's flat out abandoned her. Not to mention, it's become apparent to him that a certain drinky drink makes him his normal self for a while.

In fact, probably one of the main reasons Shinichi is even trying this hard to regain his former self is so that he can finally confess his feelings to Ran (aside from trying to catch the ones who shrunk him into a kid).

Ran's known Shinichi since they were kids, so I highly doubt he would be someone she would just drop and forget about.

I rest my case. I was pretty sure that in the show only a year or so had passed.
 

Wolf Goddess

~Lupo Di Autunno~
The funny thing about DC is that even though seasons pass and technology advances...no one ages. Shouldn't Ran have graduated? By now, Conan should be back to the age he was. In fact, he probably should be a bit older. It's really hard to tell what should and shouldn't happen.
 

RadiataAlchemist

ShattrdNghtmare
I don't think enough time passed in the anime for Shinichi's kid self to be back to his original age...not near enough. A lot of episodes don't necesarily equal a lot of time passed.
 

YoshiAngemon

Storm Trainer
Maybe it was Richard who hired the guys who poisoned Jimmy. After all, he WOULD seem jealous of what Jimmy did.
 

Wolf Goddess

~Lupo Di Autunno~
RadiataAlchemist said:
A lot of episodes don't necesarily equal a lot of time passed.

True, but it would have only been a year or two for Ran to graduate, which she hasn't done. For ten years of a show, unless people are dropping like flies on a daily basis, surely one year has had to pass.
 

Chris

Old Coot
YoshiAngemon said:
Maybe it was Richard who hired the guys who poisoned Jimmy. After all, he WOULD seem jealous of what Jimmy did.
Uh, no. He's not one to break the law, nor would he stoop so low as to do that. Not to mention, the two who did it are part of an organization involved with all sorts of illegal affairs.
 

MagicBox

xoBcigaM
^ Besides, why would Gin & Vodka do business with a private detective anyway? That's just asking for them to be caught.

To answer the question of the thread, of course Rachel should keep waiting for Jimmy. The anime has been building up their little love story for over a decade (our time), so it would be stupid for the writers to just have Rachel give up on him. And for the question about how much time has passed in the anime itself, that's ultimately up to the writers. We could get to the end of the series and they could say that only a few months have passed, for all we know.
 

Juputoru

M-m-m-m-onobear?!
Ah, Detective Conan time. How wonky you are. We've gone from the internet being the hot new thing for scientists aroudn the globe to just about everyone owning a cell phone, including Conan. The seasons have cycled a few times, we've seen a few holidays(although I don't *think* we've ever seen a given holiday more than once), we've seen Shinichi's birthday pass(but that was in a movie, so exactly how much that counts for...), we've had enough crap that's occured over the course of the series(some of which would HAVE to take more time than we see to be wrapped up, such at least one major injury that I can think of) for things to have taken at least a year, nobody's *aged*, Conan's actually gotten taller(According to an interview with Gosho: "Q: Are there any differences between now and then? Gosho: (Conan) grew taller. *laugh* In the beginning, I was drawing him at the cute size of three head sizes. Now I'm slowly drawing him at 4 head size, because kids in real life are taller now"), and Gosho, evil as he can be at times, has probably done all that on purpose so that he's not set to a certain statement of EXACTLY how much time has passed(hey, he's done more explicitly mind-messing things before...and right now, in fact. The next chapter can't come soon enough after the most recent one, and that's all I'm saying about it @_@) Whee.

As said before, A)The amount of time passed in the series certainly isn't enough for it to make more sense for Ran to move on already, B)Shinichi/Conan DOES keep in touch with Ran(made even easier now that he has a cell phone for each persona. No more going to a telephone booth and praying that he's not caught!), and C)ShinichixRan is pretty much set in stone, so much that it can get slightly annoying as to how much they decide to "remind" us that HEY THESE TWO ARE IN LOVE. Actually, Shinichi doesn't seem to care about many people other than Ran, and it goes the other way too.
When Shinichi came back for a brief while, his reception in the class room was more of a "hey you're back...with your future wife 8D" sort of laid-back-ness than any sign that his classmates actually CARED that he was gone
I actually saw an interesting analysis of Shinichi's character and how he really doesn't have much of a social life a while ago, but I can't find the link to it. D:

Alright, so Shinichi's probably not going to care too much about hooking up with anyone else, but as for Ran? Well, Shinichi IS her childhood friend and we're-in-love-but-we-won't-admit-it cohort, so she's not going to give up on him TOO quickly. Obviously, if manga(the DC manga's been going on for about TWELVE years, which would be even more ridiculous if its time=our time)/anime time equaled real life time...well, Conan would have problems other than Ran leaving him. Like the fact that it'd be SLIGHTLY difficult to explain why he looked exactly like Shinichi, which would cause...problems. Ran-wise, Black Orginization-wise, and probably in other ways that aren't glaringly obvious.

As for ConanxAi...probably not happening. It can make good fanfiction, but I doubt it'd happen in the canon. Unless Gosho decides to be VERY evil and have Conan never be cured(not even paikara can work constantly(as was shown the second time Conan tried changing back with it), although there have been a few other things that have cured him, but always temporarily, and I imagine that it wouldn't be practical/possible/safe to continually give him the temporary treatments) but that's a whole other issue.
 
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