Red and Blue
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It still is for kids, LOL.
I just hope Serena handles her second loss better than she did in this episode. Really don't want to see another fit.
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Showcase, Debut! (863)
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It still is for kids, LOL.
I just hope Serena handles her second loss better than she did in this episode. Really don't want to see another fit.
Xuxuba
Well-Known Member
"overly dramatic"
i would like to see you put all your effort into something just to fail in the first round in front of everyone because of something as little as a ribbon without even getting to show what you're really capable of. Then you can tell me she's being melodramatic.
Anyway, the way she acted so hopeful at the end of the episode is really inspiring. I'm having a hard time at college and i all want is to lock myself in my room and never go there again, but the way she was so passionate about her goal despite of what happened gave me so much hope. It's amazing how something like a kids show can lift you up.
i would like to see you put all your effort into something just to fail in the first round in front of everyone because of something as little as a ribbon without even getting to show what you're really capable of. Then you can tell me she's being melodramatic.
Anyway, the way she acted so hopeful at the end of the episode is really inspiring. I'm having a hard time at college and i all want is to lock myself in my room and never go there again, but the way she was so passionate about her goal despite of what happened gave me so much hope. It's amazing how something like a kids show can lift you up.
MonMonCandie
Radio - On Air!
Oh my gosh, I am in love with Serena's new look! It looks wonderful on her (and the short hair looks better too)! 
I found the episode itself okay, though the Tripokalon itself just reminded me of Pokemon Contests a little bit... I'll probably need to see more of it before I can really make a decision about them. But really, the highlight of the episode for me was just Serena's new look. <3 I'm so glad she managed to overcome her first hurdle because she's really just getting started!
I found the episode itself okay, though the Tripokalon itself just reminded me of Pokemon Contests a little bit... I'll probably need to see more of it before I can really make a decision about them. But really, the highlight of the episode for me was just Serena's new look. <3 I'm so glad she managed to overcome her first hurdle because she's really just getting started!
Navin
MALDREAD
FINALLY saw this. Didn't read any comments beforehand.
Mal's Weekly Review -
Pros:
* Beautiful BGM; this is what happens with fresh instrumentation, and THANK GOD they didn't play Volt!
* Audience voting into the keys is a cool concept
* Welp, nice outfitsinb4 fanservice
* HOLY SH1T, Jessie's Pumpkaboo costume was incredible; I'm guessing the theme had to be beauty/cuteness, because there's no way in hell that doesn't win otherwise!!
* Also Jessie having a side goal from dull TR antics
* Shauna cheering up Serena; builds up the frivalry
* HOLY SH1T, definitely didn't expect Fennekin tripping on stage and Serena failing and being embarrassed in front of everyone!!!
* HOLY SH1T, Serena bawling her eyes out!!!!
* Dramatic flashback over hair slice
* New haircut and outfit - I like it
Cons:
* Well...it's not like Serena sucked either. In fact, Fennekin looked the best in that round, and Serena probably would have won had Fennekin not tripped and the costume fell apart. Also, Serena didn't look nervous whatsoever in actually putting together a costume. I was hoping/thinking some nerves would affect her there, but nope. So perhaps it might have been a tad bit overdramatic to take a blade and self-slice your hair...(I still liked it though)
* It wasn't bad...but really...that was the tournament-winning Free Performance by Shauna??? Out of all those opponents, I expected it to be more complex or "Wow"...
Thoughts:
* Guess the old lady will play a major role later.
* Y'know fan voting causes a major case of potential favoritism...
* See....introducing the human element can go a long ways; even if might be melodramatic, it is emotional and makes you care about a character.
* Serena's first arc of leaving-home-and-finding-a-calling took 53 episodes and while it had good parts, it was not as well-handled as it had the potential to be. Still, it set up nicely for the second goal arc, and it did deliver. Hopefully it continues to be this way.
* I want to know how Serena's personality will be affected after her haircut of change/new start. I'm still hoping for some more humorous side from her, as well hoping if they plan on making the SatoSere seem less like a 5 second gag. Maybe this will cause her to develop more sass and self-assuredness and confidence.
* Honestly, this episode was one of best in XY, and I normally have been critical of the Serena-centric episodes (especially episodes 21, 26, and 59).
I rarely give such a score, but a 9.5 out of 10.
Mal's Weekly Review -
Pros:
* Beautiful BGM; this is what happens with fresh instrumentation, and THANK GOD they didn't play Volt!
* Audience voting into the keys is a cool concept
* Welp, nice outfits
* HOLY SH1T, Jessie's Pumpkaboo costume was incredible; I'm guessing the theme had to be beauty/cuteness, because there's no way in hell that doesn't win otherwise!!
* Also Jessie having a side goal from dull TR antics
* Shauna cheering up Serena; builds up the frivalry
* HOLY SH1T, definitely didn't expect Fennekin tripping on stage and Serena failing and being embarrassed in front of everyone!!!
* HOLY SH1T, Serena bawling her eyes out!!!!
* Dramatic flashback over hair slice
* New haircut and outfit - I like it
Cons:
* Well...it's not like Serena sucked either. In fact, Fennekin looked the best in that round, and Serena probably would have won had Fennekin not tripped and the costume fell apart. Also, Serena didn't look nervous whatsoever in actually putting together a costume. I was hoping/thinking some nerves would affect her there, but nope. So perhaps it might have been a tad bit overdramatic to take a blade and self-slice your hair...(I still liked it though)
* It wasn't bad...but really...that was the tournament-winning Free Performance by Shauna??? Out of all those opponents, I expected it to be more complex or "Wow"...
Thoughts:
* Guess the old lady will play a major role later.
* Y'know fan voting causes a major case of potential favoritism...
* See....introducing the human element can go a long ways; even if might be melodramatic, it is emotional and makes you care about a character.
* Serena's first arc of leaving-home-and-finding-a-calling took 53 episodes and while it had good parts, it was not as well-handled as it had the potential to be. Still, it set up nicely for the second goal arc, and it did deliver. Hopefully it continues to be this way.
* I want to know how Serena's personality will be affected after her haircut of change/new start. I'm still hoping for some more humorous side from her, as well hoping if they plan on making the SatoSere seem less like a 5 second gag. Maybe this will cause her to develop more sass and self-assuredness and confidence.
* Honestly, this episode was one of best in XY, and I normally have been critical of the Serena-centric episodes (especially episodes 21, 26, and 59).
I rarely give such a score, but a 9.5 out of 10.
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She hardly did any preparation for the Showcase though aside from a few minutes of training in the Nene episode. Had she worked harder for her performance and really invested herself, I would've totally understood why she was so distraught after losing.
Xuxuba
Well-Known Member
She trained in other episodes as well and it's pretty clear that she trained off-screen too. What else do you expect them to do? A whole episode just about Serena training? Not even Ash has episodes like that.
Red and Blue
Well-Known Member
Sure, why not? I would have liked to see an episode dedicated to her training rather than have most of it be off-screen. Had we seen her work harder, it would have made her crying fit more believable
Xuxuba
Well-Known Member
Because it's redudant, that's why. Anyone who actually pays attention to the series knows that she has been training and even if she wasn't training as much as someone would expect it wouldn't make her loss any less humiliating.
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Red and Blue
Well-Known Member
Not really. An episode dedicated to her training wouldn't have been redundant at all. As it stands, I can't sympathize with her since I barely saw any of her training.
Xuxuba
Well-Known Member
You don't know what you're talking about. I doubt that the audience would enjoy a entire episode about Serena doing the same perfomance over and over again for 20 min.
Lord Trollbias
Y'all Salty Bishes
Ash's training episodes are rarely, if ever, just him doing the same move over and over again so I doubt the same would be for a hypothetical Serena training episode.
Red and Blue
Well-Known Member
And you do? Lol.
Anyway, I just hope serena puts more investment and training for her next preformance, on-screen. That way her success or failure will be more believable.
Xuxuba
Well-Known Member
"I can only sympathize with someone if i saw this person's entire work. It doesn't matter if everyone else says she works hard, it doesn't matter if i saw snippets of that person's work, it doesn't matter if the situation is degrading even if that person didn't exhausted herself working. Despite this being a issue regarding my lack of empathy, i'll blame the writers for not doing exactly what i wanted in this episode."
Yeah, that's the way to go.
Yeah, that's the way to go.
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It was implied in multiple episodes that she was training off-screen. I wouldn't mind some more on-screen stuff but saying that she hadn't prepared aside from that one instance is just plain wrong.
"Rocky didn't do any actual training, all we saw was him running like 20 feet total during that montage"
I agree, hence why I didn't get her crying fit. It was hard to sympathize with her loss since she did practically nothing to make me root for her in the Showcase. I can't give credit where it's not due. :x
Xuxuba
Well-Known Member
This ^
Anyway, i'll give this episode 10/10. It's emotional and inspiring. Loved the hair and the outfit.
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pokemon fan 132
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After watching this episode i have to say i admire amount of effort put into Serena character development in here.
Pokemon performance wasnt that much exciting, but i did liked new innovation in voting system. Based on glowing sticks with audience having chance to express their interest and support of which girl performance they liked best. Assigning different color to each girl through which they would be represented.
Its pity Jessie didn't succeed in going to next round. Because her showcase was most creative imo and original. With Pumpkaboo outfit and dark like aura emitting ceepy, storming aura on stage. She was always notable for weird, most unusual attack com binations and strategies in contests as well(like pokemon attacking her being part of appeal). And i liked that.
But if someone shined in here, it was defginitely Shauna. She completely sweeped away competitiion with her Bulbasaur(looked adorable btw),Flabebe, cute pink outfit and witty use of its vine whips . Witnessing to teamwork between trainer and its pokemon being in pefect harmony.
All of this gavefurther motivation for Serena to improve and work harder on developing better thrust and understanding between herself and pokemon.
Speaking of which, i didnt expected that Fennekin out of all things will be one messing up Serena debut (unintentionally of course). Pity because they both looked very exciting despite beng nervous to get out there and show what they can do.
Kinda hoping Serena would be one breeaking mod winning first important event with development taking different direction. In glory and initial success hitting her in head starting to take performance lightly and developing wrong perception. With overcofidence leadng to future downfalls making her question and realize if she was wrong all along with first win being just luck and plexus of unpredicted circumstances going in her favor.
But that might had take more time than writers could had afford thus taking similar route May and Dawn went through.
Which i dont mind because of some different and verx pleasant twists i definitely welcmed.
Liking how despite very bad impression this didnt damaged friendship between Serena and Shauna continuing to support her through rest of competition and congratulating for win. While visibly tryng to hide her disappointment and blame she felt for letting down herself and pokemon.
Because whether your fan or not, its not easy to remain indifferent to Serena breaking down bursting in tears during walk she took alone with pokemon. Making me feel sorry for character and harsh realization of how tough Tripokalon can be requiring lot of dedication, teamwork and effort to really succeeed.
Im starting to think Serena dream in previous episode of tripping with Fennekin was possibly presentiment from her character in not feeling comfortable about debut sensing how something bad might happen(explaining her nervousness during whole competition).
I almost missed that detail, but if this was writers way of foreshadowing Serena loss, i like subtle approach used there.
Act of cutting her hair because of loss, with new hairstyle representing "born of new person" was something i suspected to happen. In sene of Serena letting go her "old self". Serena who was insecure, shy and undecided. Had no asgenda and motivation in doing anything with her life.
In new character who became much more resolved, determined and confident in itself finding what she truly likes, standing up to her mother and imposed tradition her family maintained and walking toward future with newborn strength and steadiness.
Adding to her appeal and originality welcoming that change of look has some meaning behind it. Instead of being passed of as simple blatant promotion of character customization feature from games.
She definitely looks great in new outfit and with new hair. Complimenting well that bright girly side, radiating with new energy and cuteness in more "grown up" way.
Presence of old lady (if im not mistaken her name is Yashio?)who enjoys big popularity and attention in public and from journalists dropping eye on Serena sparking her interest was nice foreshadowing toward futture . Indicating she may play important role in further development from Serena side and progression of her career in aim of becoming Kalos Queen.
All in all i didn't regret watching this episode. Being marked with elements of drama, sadness, excitement and unpredictability. Having everything neeeded to be enjoyable and impactful.
To be fair none of girls achieved their dreams ever since they left Ash. They are just left lingering in air with unfinished stories never seeing any follow up because they stopped becoming main characters not warranting focus and attention anymore.
We saw each girl coming closer toward their dreams during travels with Ash than it was ever case with Ash. Dawn in first attempt almost became top coordinator. Misty grew alot more than Ash did as faer as maturity goes coming top 8 in Whirl Cup which was directly focused on water master career(being one of steos which in case of winning brings ylu closer tioward title).
We saw May coming top 4 in second attempot at GF already becoming recognized coordinator granting her title "Princess of Hoenn.
Ash? It took about 13 years just to come top 4 in pokemon league which is one of steps on road of becoming pokemon master. Whether girls travel with Ash ior not she makes overall bigger progress in shorter period to be honest.
If they stayed for longer eventually we might seen one of them accomplishing their dreams going on bigger, better things. But they are obviously gone and abandoned at this point being questionable if we will ever see Misty, May, Dawn etc play relevant role , get continuation showing how much they changed/evolved and return for some interesting arc in flesh ever again.
Sadly that faith awaits for Serena too ending forgotten, her story and dreams being left unaccomlished and potential to go on more challenging tasks wasted. If she ends up replaced as well.
Although i still think characters like May or Misty for example changed possibly most emotionally wise imo with growth in that sense coming of as more endearing, satiusfying to follow keeping fun, fervent traits and becoming independent, more mature persons eventually. Feeling like they learned alot from new friendships, people they met, challenges they faced and new experiences.
Evolving alot in personality aspect, way they reacted to provocations and criticism going through big change as persons when comparing them in early days to how they behaved by end of AG followed by DP cameo in May, or end of Johto followed by chronicles in Misty case.
Im not gonna lie. Serena is slowly but surely starting to catch up and could become one of characters in pokemon who changed the most as far as personality and emotional growth goes.
Pokemon performance wasnt that much exciting, but i did liked new innovation in voting system. Based on glowing sticks with audience having chance to express their interest and support of which girl performance they liked best. Assigning different color to each girl through which they would be represented.
Its pity Jessie didn't succeed in going to next round. Because her showcase was most creative imo and original. With Pumpkaboo outfit and dark like aura emitting ceepy, storming aura on stage. She was always notable for weird, most unusual attack com binations and strategies in contests as well(like pokemon attacking her being part of appeal). And i liked that.
But if someone shined in here, it was defginitely Shauna. She completely sweeped away competitiion with her Bulbasaur(looked adorable btw),Flabebe, cute pink outfit and witty use of its vine whips . Witnessing to teamwork between trainer and its pokemon being in pefect harmony.
All of this gavefurther motivation for Serena to improve and work harder on developing better thrust and understanding between herself and pokemon.
Speaking of which, i didnt expected that Fennekin out of all things will be one messing up Serena debut (unintentionally of course). Pity because they both looked very exciting despite beng nervous to get out there and show what they can do.
Kinda hoping Serena would be one breeaking mod winning first important event with development taking different direction. In glory and initial success hitting her in head starting to take performance lightly and developing wrong perception. With overcofidence leadng to future downfalls making her question and realize if she was wrong all along with first win being just luck and plexus of unpredicted circumstances going in her favor.
But that might had take more time than writers could had afford thus taking similar route May and Dawn went through.
Which i dont mind because of some different and verx pleasant twists i definitely welcmed.
Liking how despite very bad impression this didnt damaged friendship between Serena and Shauna continuing to support her through rest of competition and congratulating for win. While visibly tryng to hide her disappointment and blame she felt for letting down herself and pokemon.
Because whether your fan or not, its not easy to remain indifferent to Serena breaking down bursting in tears during walk she took alone with pokemon. Making me feel sorry for character and harsh realization of how tough Tripokalon can be requiring lot of dedication, teamwork and effort to really succeeed.
Im starting to think Serena dream in previous episode of tripping with Fennekin was possibly presentiment from her character in not feeling comfortable about debut sensing how something bad might happen(explaining her nervousness during whole competition).
I almost missed that detail, but if this was writers way of foreshadowing Serena loss, i like subtle approach used there.
Act of cutting her hair because of loss, with new hairstyle representing "born of new person" was something i suspected to happen. In sene of Serena letting go her "old self". Serena who was insecure, shy and undecided. Had no asgenda and motivation in doing anything with her life.
In new character who became much more resolved, determined and confident in itself finding what she truly likes, standing up to her mother and imposed tradition her family maintained and walking toward future with newborn strength and steadiness.
Adding to her appeal and originality welcoming that change of look has some meaning behind it. Instead of being passed of as simple blatant promotion of character customization feature from games.
She definitely looks great in new outfit and with new hair. Complimenting well that bright girly side, radiating with new energy and cuteness in more "grown up" way.
Presence of old lady (if im not mistaken her name is Yashio?)who enjoys big popularity and attention in public and from journalists dropping eye on Serena sparking her interest was nice foreshadowing toward futture . Indicating she may play important role in further development from Serena side and progression of her career in aim of becoming Kalos Queen.
All in all i didn't regret watching this episode. Being marked with elements of drama, sadness, excitement and unpredictability. Having everything neeeded to be enjoyable and impactful.
To be fair none of girls achieved their dreams ever since they left Ash. They are just left lingering in air with unfinished stories never seeing any follow up because they stopped becoming main characters not warranting focus and attention anymore.
We saw each girl coming closer toward their dreams during travels with Ash than it was ever case with Ash. Dawn in first attempt almost became top coordinator. Misty grew alot more than Ash did as faer as maturity goes coming top 8 in Whirl Cup which was directly focused on water master career(being one of steos which in case of winning brings ylu closer tioward title).
We saw May coming top 4 in second attempot at GF already becoming recognized coordinator granting her title "Princess of Hoenn.
Ash? It took about 13 years just to come top 4 in pokemon league which is one of steps on road of becoming pokemon master. Whether girls travel with Ash ior not she makes overall bigger progress in shorter period to be honest.
If they stayed for longer eventually we might seen one of them accomplishing their dreams going on bigger, better things. But they are obviously gone and abandoned at this point being questionable if we will ever see Misty, May, Dawn etc play relevant role , get continuation showing how much they changed/evolved and return for some interesting arc in flesh ever again.
Sadly that faith awaits for Serena too ending forgotten, her story and dreams being left unaccomlished and potential to go on more challenging tasks wasted. If she ends up replaced as well.
Although i still think characters like May or Misty for example changed possibly most emotionally wise imo with growth in that sense coming of as more endearing, satiusfying to follow keeping fun, fervent traits and becoming independent, more mature persons eventually. Feeling like they learned alot from new friendships, people they met, challenges they faced and new experiences.
Evolving alot in personality aspect, way they reacted to provocations and criticism going through big change as persons when comparing them in early days to how they behaved by end of AG followed by DP cameo in May, or end of Johto followed by chronicles in Misty case.
Im not gonna lie. Serena is slowly but surely starting to catch up and could become one of characters in pokemon who changed the most as far as personality and emotional growth goes.
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Nodame
Misty <3
As a fashion lover myself, I actually liked this episode. Serena's contest dress and ponytail is super pretty. The performances were good too kinda reminded me of contests, which I love. Better luck next time Serena. I'm looking forward to see more.
I agree. People are complaining over the slightest things, calling her dramatic just because she cried lol.
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k6666
Pikachu Fan
LOL at clemont being a nice guy XD even they barely interact with each other
LOL Hard at jessie being not recognize by ash and co XD and i really hope she win some performance tbh i dont her to be AG way
and i agree i respect the trimming girl ,imo i would vote then shauna , i mean 20 second to trimming her furfrou , that insane
i watch the episode , now i 'm so into serena now & love her new design to
LOL Hard at jessie being not recognize by ash and co XD and i really hope she win some performance tbh i dont her to be AG way
and i agree i respect the trimming girl ,imo i would vote then shauna , i mean 20 second to trimming her furfrou , that insane
i watch the episode , now i 'm so into serena now & love her new design to
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