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Since SPOILER appears in the BW games, will we get what we were denied in DP?

CyberCubed

Yeah, ok!
If you check Pokebeach, you'd see that Cynthia appears in the BW games, and you can actually battle her.

I honestly cannot believe it. Cynthia, the champion from the last gen, also appears in the next. We haven't had this since Lance in Kanto/Johto.

In DP191, we see Ash imagining himself in Flint's place battling Cynthia with Infernape.

Could we finally get what we were denied in DP, and see Ash battling Cynthia in a champion league?
 

Lorde

Let's go to the beach, each.
I really don't think that'll be the case in Best Wishes at all. I'm all for older characters appearing in cameo appearances in Best Wishes, I just don't want her (Cynthia) to cut into the story since this (Isshu) isn't her home region to begin with. Best Wishes should feature Ash taking on new challenges and not old ones so I really hope she doesn't finally battle Ash. The writers had their chance in Sinnoh and they blew it >:|
 

CyberCubed

Yeah, ok!
Also, the Isshu Elite 4 had no real champion, but the rival of the game. Kinda of like how Gary was the champion in RBY instead of there being someone else.

I doubt it'll be the case in the anime.
 
Wow, Cynthia's back. She sure must be popular to be back in the BW games.

Maybe we will see her again. Again, the writers are good with continuity. Maybe we get to see Ash vs. Cynthia at the end of Isshu (which could be a battle where Ash can use pokemon from all gens like Pika, Infernape, Daikenki, Sceptile, one of the regional birds, and one of the wildcard reserves, etc.).

But like I said, I only see that at the very end of Isshu/BW.
 

Fa7e

Well-Known Member
he needs to take on cynthia, no holding back, charizard, sceptile, inferape, 6 of ash's most kickass pokemon vs her, thats what i want
 

Blazenuva

Well-Known Member
Well we can't just have an all powerful character as fleshed out as she is disappear like that. If she appears in the anime, this gives me hope that Takuto and Paul will return.
 
One of the E4 members is apparently the girl who accompanied Frontier Brain Darach.

Wow, I'm impressed with the character continuity in BW. Since this is supposed to be faster paced, maybe it's possible to see E4 matches, Seven Sages, Belle, and Cynthia?
 

Fa7e

Well-Known Member
i think he needs to do what he did for the frontier, just go all out with his best pokes, its the like same thing over and over, they need to make him grow up alot more without brock (because brock did give him alot of battle advice and coach him in matches), win a league, get his strongest pokemon beat the elite 4, and challenge cynthia
 

Thriller

Its almost time
The anime denied us squat.

They just felt they should focus on the E4 of the Generation more. The Isshu E4 will probably get as much focus.
 

Teshub

Banned
Pokemon Pt has cameos of G/S characters, Ash never battled them. Lance made an appearance in AG, Ash never battled him. The wishful thinking is getting ridiculous at this point. When will you people accept that Ash is in a perpetual running mill. Some people were denied their brains, it seems.
 

thunderblade12

Well-Known Member
I don't see why Ash can't defeat a champion and remain on that "wheel" however. Champions aren't "pokemon masters." There are multiple of them and Pokemon Master has always been referred to in the singular tense. "I'm gonna be the very best."
 
I wonder...didn't Cynthia say she can't wait until the day either Ash or Paul face her in the champion league...not saying it's gonna happen, it's way too early to say that. But it's something to think about for the moment.
 

Paul Ketchum

Remarkable!
I honestly think the Cynthia battle will be exclusively in the games, but you never know, Jasmine did make a cameo in both the games and anime, where she even had a battle with Ash, so the same could happen with Cynthia. I would love to see that match because I think Ash truly deserved to win the Sinnoh League and battle her. But what I really want to see is a full battle, they'll probably just make it a 1 vs 1 match if anything.
 

Almighty Zard

He has returned.
One of the E4 members is apparently the girl who accompanied Frontier Brain Darach.

Is that true?

If Ash was to honestly face a champion, it'd be better to face one that isn't a "rival" character like Gary was, Lance in G/S, Wallace, Steven and Cynthia were all unique champions.

I'll say this, if Ash's isshu team can develop well with lots of evo's by the league, he MIGHT stand a chance of fighting her.
 

Teshub

Banned
Is that true?

If Ash was to honestly face a champion, it'd be better to face one that isn't a "rival" character like Gary was, Lance in G/S, Wallace, Steven and Cynthia were all unique champions.

I'll say this, if Ash's isshu team can develop well with lots of evo's by the league, he MIGHT stand a chance of fighting her.

So one second everyone is happy Ash is back to acting like a "n00b", but when they hear of Cynthia having a cameo in the game they want him to turn into an expert so he can battle her.
 

Rixo

Musical Trainer
I think Cynthia will make a great final battle against Ash.
Whether it be before the Seven Sages, or after, or wherever in his story.
And just because the E4 have 4 Pokemon, wouldn't that strict Ash to 4 as well?
 

Almighty Zard

He has returned.
So one second everyone is happy Ash is back to acting like a "n00b", but when they hear of Cynthia having a cameo in the game they want him to turn into an expert so he can battle her.

I don't want Ash to turn back into a noob, I want him to keep growing as a trainer with pokemon like the ones he caught in sinnoh, not regress backwards.
 

Ash-kid

Ash-kid
Maybe its only for the game? Because Belle is the Isshu champion. If anything, Ash should battle vs her.
 
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