Sins of our Fathers - Discussion

[RaZoR LeAf]

Sins of our Fathers
Evil begets evil
We are but shadows of our former selves
The Sins of our Fathers
Are we beyond redemption?

Dramatis Personae
Types will link back to the charater profiles​

Electric
(Ari - cdra1617)

- Create small sparks of electricity


Grass
(Terros Grasswhistle - masterwannabe)

- Extendable vines


Poison
(Sapphire Clyne - xXSapphireXx)

- Throw poison needles from hands


Psychic
(Tala Cyrus - Diamond Unicorn)

- See phantom images


Fire
(Hokage Hi-to - Firehead Hank)

- Create small flames


Ground
(Lauren Bristles - Raposa Dalua)

- Cause small, close proximity tremors


Flying
(Hondia Hayabusa - Typhlogirl)

- Increased eyesight

- Relaxed centre of gravity

Bug
(Sayonara - katiekitten)

- Empathic sense of smell

- Detect Air currents


Steel
(Kev Chi - Kevster)

- Turn skin on arms into steel


Ice
(Yagami Hitou - Ichimaru)

- Freeze small amounts of water, chill air


Dragon
(Tobias Richmond - RaZoR LeAf)

- Make the air colder, warmer, dryer, wetter


Dark
(Decus Adramelech - Dias)

- See in the dark


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Abilities

Right, now let me try and explain this. You all start off with one, maybe two small abilities. These aren't much, but in time they will be. This initial ability you have will grow and mature over the course of the RPG, eventually becoming stronger, with you having better control over it, and being able to do more things with it.



I'll use an unpicked type as an example. At the time of writing, this is an unpicked type, but if there are any late sign ups, and they pick this. Anyone found copying these to the letter will be thrown out of the rpg. So, how about the Normal type? Difficult to think of things for, probably why it's been left. Lets say you can turn invisible:

At first, you can turn only partially invisible. Translucent we'll say, people can see through you, or, if you stood against something, you'd blend in like a chameleon. Now, as the RPG continues, this would gradually change and become better, making you invisible, but still a shape, so though people can't see you, they can still see your shape, and size. Think 'Predator' invisible. Finally, it will reach a point where there's no way anyone or anything can see you. Total spectrum invisibility.

This is how your abilities should work. In about 3 stages (4-5 if need be). So put simply:

1. Chameleonic
2. Partially Invisible
3. Totally invisible

Right, so now that's explained, lets get on to how many abilities you can have, and what they can be. Now there's your first that you've picked, and I'd like to see no more than 5 additional abilities. Really, they should all develop in the same way. But some could be instant, or something that you didn't really think would help you, such as something stemming from a disfigurement. Speaking of which, these can also change, grow or you could get more. Let's continue with the example I started with, the unpicked type of Normal

My Normal character has sharp claws and a long, dextrous tail:

1. Able to keep balance when moving. Never falls over
2. Can climb short distances and stay in place for some time
3. Can climb in any direction, and stay there for any time, including sharp inclines, and over celings

She can also defend herself well:

1. Able to stop small and slow moving objects
2. Can create a shield of varying size and strength to stop objects
3. Creates a large impenetrable shield, that cannot be broken even under heavy fire

But when she gets angry:

1. Her screams are enough to cause headaches, and in some cases shatter glass
2. Screams can knock children unconscious, and cause migraines in adults. Foundations shake
3. Screams can cause cave ins, knock anyone unconscious and be felt a great distance away

If you are really stuck, think of some Pokemon and their characteristics, or moves of a particular type, and derive your ideas from those. For these examples, I used Kecleon and the attack Camouflage for the invisibility, Aipom, and the idea of squirrels in trees for the climbing, the move Protect for the shields, and then finally Hyper Voice/Screech for the big attack.

Now these are just ideas. If anyone is stuck for abilities, that is the reason for this cafe thread. So people can get help developing them. if need be, We can make them for you. I wrote this RG in 2002, so I have plenty of ideas stockpiled for the various types.

As people gain new abilities, I'll add them, and what stage they are at to the list above.

As some indication, but without giving too much away. My character has his current ability (full developed of course), two attacks, a further developed disfigurement that works as part of an attack/similarity to pokemon, and his current disfigurement. Just so you have some idea of what you can have. If you want to share ideas, but want them to be a secret to the others, my Inbox is always open.

Pokémon

After being pressed on the matter in the chat by Renegade and LadyMyuu, yes you will (if you wish) get a chance to be accompanied by a pokemon. It wont be as a trainer and pokemon, with pokeballs and such, unless you specifically want it to be. At some point in the RPG (several points at different times) a wild pokemon will be attracted to your blossoming abilities. Then said pokemon will be your companion for as long as you want to keep them.

Of course, you'll have never seen pokemon, so naturally you'll be wary of them. How you ultimately deal with it is down to you. The pokemon will be wild, and can be any pokemon (besides legendaries). I'll allow similar/pseudo types if your chosen type doesn't have many pokemon to chose from. The pokemon you pick doesn't have to be the type at the start, so long as it is at the end. These are listed as such:

Steel - Also allowed Rock
Ghost - Also allowed Dark
Ice - Also allowed Water
Dragon - Also allowed Pseudo-Dragons
Dark - Also allowed Ghost

 

[Typhlogirl]

Hey RaZoR LeAf, I have a quick question that I think my benefit everyone.

With these pokemon partners, are our characters able to converse with them in English, or is it like an Ash and Pikachu relationship?

Thanks.

-;157;

 

[Draco Malfoy]

RL, as my type is Grass, will I be able to have SOME control over toxins, at least an immunity to them? So can Terros use Stun Spore and Sleep Powder which are toxin based but in the game, Grass-type attacks?

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[Shadowcat]

O-O. Wouldn't Toxins be counted under Poison? Not sure about it, but Grass has a weakness towards Poison. (Bleah, forgive my bad grammar.)

 

[Spectre]

I don't see why Grass would have ANY immunities toward toxins. Stun Spore, Sleep Powder, Poison Powder, Spore are considered more of types of Pollen, which plants release. Pollen might not affect you, but toxins are definitly in the Poison category.

Also, I would think we would be able to "talk" to the pokemon and understand what they say because our outbreaks cause us to have pokemon-like features, but that is just my opinion. Of course RaZoR_LeAf has the final say in it.

 

[RaZoR LeAf]

Hmm, I hadn't thought about that. I think character and pokemon would have a better understanding of each other. Like Ash and Pikachu, but more so. They'd be able to understand exactly what the pokemon wants and means, just as the pokemon would understand them. But I don't like the idea of outright conversing in English.

As for the Grass and Toxins, I'm afraid, grass is weak to Poison, so an immunity wouldn't be a great idea. However, since several grass types are partly poison, I have no objection to you being able to use 'Poison Powder' as an ability, if you were to use it amongst the other spores for instance. You could be immune to your own poison powder then, but if xXSapphireXx decided to stab you, you'd be stuffed. The only person would could really have an immunity to poison (aside from Sapphire) is Kevster, as a Steel type.

 

[Draco Malfoy]

I meant pollens. Sorry! Also, can my character influence pheromones? Such as sex and trail pheromones. I don't see those as toxins. Many exotic plants can influence them with pollens and pollens are definately more plant-like than poison-like. I can't really see Muk using Stun Spore for example. >.<;;

 

[Yami Ryu]

Hm ... so Dan, does this mean later on in the rp, when my chara gets angry, she could like, summon a tsunami like wave aka Surf when near the ocean or large bodies of water? And be able to breathe water o.o but I think this might be stretching it a bit XD

 

[RaZoR LeAf]

I meant pollens. Sorry! Also, can my character influence pheromones? Such as sex and trail pheromones. I don't see those as toxins. Many exotic plants can influence them with pollens and pollens are definately more plant-like than poison-like. I can't really see Muk using Stun Spore for example. >.<;;

Perhaps not influence pheromones, but certainly have your own be more over powering.

Hm ... so Dan, does this mean later on in the rp, when my chara gets angry, she could like, summon a tsunami like wave aka Surf when near the ocean or large bodies of water? And be able to breathe water o.o but I think this might be stretching it a bit XD

Summoning a Tsunami straight off would have to come from being very angry. But if you start off smaller, then eventually you could be able to do it without needing the anger. This goes for everyone btw, as one of mine is based on anger (since it quite a violent attack anyway). Breathing underwater is fine. Maybe you have gills (suggestion?)

 

[Kev Chi]

Yay, I'm the only one immune to something O wait, dark is too. Anyways, I'm trying to think of other things I could have as powers. Other then all of my body becoming steel as my final phanse, super strangth(sp?) is the only thing I can think of.

 

[Yami Ryu]

Kev: why not metal manipulation? like turning a spoon into a SPORK! hahahaha *runs

But seriously, it might work o.o or what about the metal you make covering your arms, it could maybe shift to become a shield thing, small at first then larger over time or something.

Dan: but she doesn't have gills XD .. unless she gains them later? hm .. what about gills in her lungs? Well not gill gills, but maybe an adaptation that allows her body to draw oxygene from water as well as air? but she just can't jump from one system to the next: you know air/water real quickly. Like going to breathe water she has to concentrate on it at first, and when leaving to breathe air she has to make sure all the water is from her lungs.

Hm .. starting small would be good. So maybe at first she can do something like a foot or two in hieght? Not an attack persay but it could put out small fires or deal with small fire pkmn XD

 

[katiekitten]

I still can't believe I'm bug girl... XD

That sounds good, Ren. Another thing you could have are these extra, translucent eyelids, so that you don't get water in your eyes when under water... Ah, bleagh. I is tired. XD

Being buggy, that does mean I can have some poison attacks too, right? I could venomous teeth... *bares fangs*

Now, what canbug girl do over time... *thinks* Wells, her taste could improve... but what else...

*thinks some more* My brain really has turned off today... And this is most likely the last time I will be on for a week, to. *points to siggy* Sorry about that, but I am reading for charity and when ever I come on the computer I end up spending all day on it. XD

Okies... Would the developement of fly type wings work? As time progresses, she could start to grow them... Meh, maybe that is to big. I would say sticky fingers, but I don't want to go down the spiderman route. I also don't really want her to have bug eyes, because then she won't be able to see anything. Yep, I'm stuck. -.- Help please?

 

[RaZoR LeAf]

Kevster

Having super-strength is fine. How about an ability that stems from Meteor Mash? You start off just having a 'Mac Punch', then move on to a 'Mega Punch' until finally you have a all powerful 'Meteor Mash' capable of punching holes in mountains (for example). Maybe something along the lines of Metal Sound, and the Screeching ability I mentioned in my first post. Or how about Magnetics? Thinking Magneto from X-Men.

Renegade

Gills were just an idea, but all that sounds fine.

katiekitten

Heh, there's nothing wrong with being Bug girl. Ok.. how about something like harden? It's not a Bug attack, but it is something associated with Metapod, Kakuna and the 'Coons. Maybe you can make your skin harder. At first maybe you can do it, but can't move at all, until finally you can move freely, but be rock solid. But yeah, you can have some poison attacks. I figure that Poison has more in common with Bug than it does grass.

And don't worry about being away for a bit.


A little something about abilities, for everyone to know. They don't have to stem directly from the type you've chosen. If you can think of something that fits well with another of your abilities, then go for it.

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OK, the RPG is up now. Now you're character can arrive in Johto or Kanto, I don't mind which, and I don't mind where they head to next either.

 

[Kev Chi]

Metal manipulation sounds so crazy, it's good lol XD The Meteor Mash idea also sounds good. I think I'm might use that one. Metal manipulation...we'll see lol. As for Bug, how about stick on walls? (as chiche as that sounds)

 

[Spectre]

Bugs are quite easy, if you think about it.

They can usually carry more than 10 times their normal strength and jump 4 times their height. Some thing along the lines of String Shot could be used, kinda like Spiderman's web. Lastly, you could emit a light that can blind people momentarily, like a Firefly.

And I was thinking, would it be possible if Ice was formed from the body itself? Like, producing excess water which freezes, or something like that. It kinda feels like most of my abilities are reliant on water, and if there was no water, he would be useless.

 

[RaZoR LeAf]

Of course, I wouldn't want to limit you to relying on something else.

 

[Spectre]

Ahh, thanks. With that, a whole new world of abilities I can conjure!

I have another question. Is their any specific relation to any of the incidents in the game? Like, did the Rocket invasion happen in Kanto, Rocket invasion in Johto, Team Magma/Aqua's rampage in Hoenn, Cipher's shadow plan in Orre, etc.

 

[FireHead Hank]

what about GymLeaders? Are there the same GymLeaders like in the game? Or do GymLeaders even exist in this RPG?

 

[RaZoR LeAf]

It's the past. So technically it's like any other pokemon game/anime. There's no reason for there not to be Gym Leaders, just like there's no reason for there not to be trainers. The point is, most people wouldn't bother trying to go into a Gym Battle, they'd have more important things on their mind.

Also, I'd say that any take overs attepted by Cipher, Rocket, Aqua and Magm have all happened, and at the moment, they are all in hiding/background.

 

[katiekitten]

Thanks for the help guys! *has a mountain of ideas*

A quick question before I get started on the post, (I can't keep myself away. XD) can we start anywhere? If this has been answered somewhere else before, sorry... *smiles tiredly*