Sham
The Guardian of War
I personally never cared what happened and I feel like the foundation was there for her to beat Alder. Steven/Wallace I didn’t really care about. I just curious about others opinion.
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So about Wallace being Champion
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janejane6178
Kaleido Star FOREVER in my heart <3
They treated Wallace so badly in the recent episode
He felt like a comic relief
Like Journeys did to tr
He felt like a comic relief
Like Journeys did to tr
Pokegirl Fan~
Liko>>>>>Ash
At least he was actually funny, unlike Team Rocket
He didn't say that, and I specifically wrote a bunch of posts about that bit of dialogue back when the episode aired.
I think literally just once. It was always considered a pretty throwaway detail.
Sham
The Guardian of War
Not sure. Drayden just says “she ranked the strongest in Unova” and that last time I watched this was in the dub so don’t remember what the original said. Either way she’s the Champion.
He said she's the Champion and then defined "Champion" as "the top trainer in Isshu". That last bit was not meant to be a separate clause about Iris specifically.
Sham
The Guardian of War
Well if the Champion is the top trainer in Unova and Iris is the Champion that would be a pretty common sense implication. Nonetheless there are plenty of times in BW where Alder is described as the strongest in Unova and if Iris took his place then again common sense but regardless her title is the same
The line just means that there's no higher rank above Champion. You're not supposed to take anything from it that you didn't already know, it's just a description of the term.
I feel like we've been through this before.
Sham
The Guardian of War
Ah, well I’d like to think she’s the strongest in Unova even if it wasn’t directly said
Leonhart
Imagineer
It does irk me slightly that the writers can't seem to make up their minds when it comes to the Champions in particular since it seems like they're playing a game of musical chairs at this point, and given the trend I wouldn't be too surprised if Iris is no longer the Isshu Champion the next time we see her, and Adeku is made the regional Champion once again.
Oh, that's definitely happening if either character appears in the anime after we get a BW remake. They've made it very clear that whatever is in the most recent games go for these things.
If we get a Let's Go sequel set in Jouto Wataru might become Champion again too.
Sham
The Guardian of War
That’s only if they don’t decide to remake BW2 (which is likely or they’re combining both aspects). The reason why they got away with doing that with Steven and Wallace is because Steven is never stated as Champion in his original appearance (say what you want about “implication” but he was never said so in AG). It’s the same how Iris was never Champion in the original BW anime.
Now Iris and Alder were both called Champions.
Additionally Kanto/Johto never had a “official Champion” besides Lance. So those are different examples
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Ragnarok4
2024
She is the strongest in Unova she is literally the champion lmao
thedarkdragon11
P4P Elite
Under normal circumstances, I won't mind... But Wallace said that he can go toe-to-toe against Steven, then get rekt offscreen by Ash in the same episode is kinda inconsistent... I mean, watch Ash struggle against Steven in M8...
Blue Saturday
Violet Prince❤️
The battle was off-screened so the viewer doesn't know how it went, plus Satoshi had his strongest with a type advantage while said Water-type ace is a Pokemon that thrives in a body of water when it comes to combat (look at the one in BF and end of AG; water battlefields) and "on-par" could be a very relative and loose term either way. Maybe Daigo and Mikuri were down to one-a-piece or maybe Daigo straight up elimated all his Pokemon while only losing three, who know.
Ragnarok4
2024
yes, maybe Daigo didn't use mega evolution for example. On par can mean many things, Catleya was on par against Cynthia, for example.
solrocknroll
S-Class Indigo League Fan
I don’t think this is really true. Alder and Drayden probably chose her as Champion as long as she was able to prove herself. Steven getting the title from Wallace doesn’t feel like a League win either.