Some things people think are good but really aren't

[sanjay120]

Dusknoir is a bit better than Shuckle. Actually a lot better as it can actually hurt something.

 

[magnemiteZ]

Shuckle has about the same defensive power as Dusknoir.

Shuckle has far more "Defencive Power", as with the aid of Sandstorm and an Impish Nature with 252 Def EV's, it cannot be touched by anything.

 

[.Vaati.]

You shouldn't be using Dusknoir to attack though unless you're Shadow Sneaking. I'd only use it from blocking Rapid Spin and Will-o-Wisping, but I'd rather use Gengar to block spin or not do it at all on the standard team. Shuckle is better in the way that Knock Off messes up any Pokemon.

I usually don't max defense on Shuckle, instead doing something like 252/176/82. Getting max HP on it is way important than max lefties recovery.

It's spelt defensive. :x

 

[sanjay120]

Dusknoir's TPunch takes out Gyarados and Fire Punch takes out Heracross. Shadow Sneak is for Azelf, Gallade, Gardevoir, Gengar, Alakazam, Jynx, and finishing off low health Pokemon.

The worse Shuckle is doing to them is Knock Off, which is bad for them, but Dusknoir still beats them easier.

 

[_Calm|Mind_]

It's spelt defensive. :x

It's not spelt like that in every country. ._.

 

[magnemiteZ]

It's spelt defensive. :x

American douche bag.

 

[Lord_Sunday]

Shuckle has about the same defensive power as Dusknoir.

Shuckle beats Dusknoir on both Defencive Tiers

 

[Keaton]

Blissey is one of the best Special Walls.
Blissey can't wall physically but shes not suposed to...thats why most teams have a Special Wall and a Physical Wall because few pokes can do both well...or at least well enough to rely souly on them.

 

[blax8192]

blissey is the absolute wost thing to put on your team, it has huge hp yes, but it has itty bitty nothing defense, this means that attacks just do more damage to it, and almost every rmt i've ever read is making sure they have something to 1hko or 2hko or occasionally 3hko blissey, blissey is NOT a good wall, get something with naturally high defense or spec defense and beef it up in the lower defense stat (if theyre close to the same) otherwise use the highest def stat and beef that up then beef up it's hp, this means it can take a ton of hits without taking much damage

 

[aipomkong]

blissey is the absolute wost thing to put on your team, it has huge hp yes, but it has itty bitty nothing defense, this means that attacks just do more damage to it, and almost every rmt i've ever read is making sure they have something to 1hko or 2hko or occasionally 3hko blissey, blissey is NOT a good wall, get something with naturally high defense or spec defense and beef it up in the lower defense stat (if theyre close to the same) otherwise use the highest def stat and beef that up then beef up it's hp, this means it can take a ton of hits without taking much damage

i lold.......

 

[Frost Nova]

blissey is the absolute wost thing to put on your team, it has huge hp yes, but it has itty bitty nothing defense, this means that attacks just do more damage to it, and almost every rmt i've ever read is making sure they have something to 1hko or 2hko or occasionally 3hko blissey, blissey is NOT a good wall, get something with naturally high defense or spec defense and beef it up in the lower defense stat (if theyre close to the same) otherwise use the highest def stat and beef that up then beef up it's hp, this means it can take a ton of hits without taking much damage

You do realise that unboosted Explosions / Focus Punches can't OHKO Blissey with max Def EVs, do you?

 

[magnemiteZ]

blissey is the absolute wost thing to put on your team, it has huge hp yes, but it has itty bitty nothing defense, this means that attacks just do more damage to it, and almost every rmt i've ever read is making sure they have something to 1hko or 2hko or occasionally 3hko blissey, blissey is NOT a good wall, get something with naturally high defense or spec defense and beef it up in the lower defense stat (if theyre close to the same) otherwise use the highest def stat and beef that up then beef up it's hp, this means it can take a ton of hits without taking much damage

Would have been more beneficial if you simply Trapinch spam'd.

 

[Hectik]

This thread is a bubbling pot for flame wars. The idea of a metagame is to build around whats popular at the time, that being said I'm sure comments here are viable for now. But could change any day now. Calling people newbs for refusing to conform to a metagame standard they may not like is wrong. This thread reeks of fail.

 

[Annhialator Zero]

It's more that if they don't conform and continue using bad sets/Pokemon they'll lose, and the whole point of this forum is to make teams that don't lose

 

[sanjay120]

No it's more that saying Blissey is one of the worst things to put on a team is one of the stupidest statements I've heard about Pokemon in the history of forever. The point of this thread is to get rid of ideas like that. If people don't want to use Bliss, fine. But to deny she is a good Pokemon is not just a difference of opinion. That guy is wrong.

Also Bliss has monstrous SDef.

 

[Caesar]

Its like saying a team has a major ice weak if only a garchomp isn't fainted. What a pointless post. Every pokemon has a exploitable weakness, but good ones have pros that out weigh the cons

 

[blackrose]

gallade could be a sweeper if you use the baton pass strategy.

 

[Caesar]

that kinda applies to any pokemon with either good speed but bad atacking stats or good attacking stats but poor speed, tough once countered you lose the boost so its really impractical

 

[MistyLover]

gallade could be a sweeper if you use the baton pass strategy.

By saying that, so could Gardevoir.

 

[_Calm|Mind_]

gallade could be a sweeper if you use the baton pass strategy.

That's like saying Shuckle can be a sweeper if you pass it some Attack and Speed boosts. If something needs stat boosts passed to it so it can assume a new role, then it is utter fail.