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Shack

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If the game has the Wi-Fi internet, does that mean that ROM users will be able to use their ROMs online aswell?

I am not promoting ROMs, it just crossed my mind earlier.
 

DarkSpectrum

Shadow Amongst Light
Nintendo/game-freak have also being doin a lot of upgrading with their games.
colosseum can usually block the transfer of any cheated pokemon to it and the GBA versions can produce bad-egg/missingno glitches when the game is cheated on or cheated pokemon/items are transferred to it. So i'm guessing that they'll have some kind block that will stop that, especially since the game will need the games registration info as well as the DS's personal registration info.
 

zuloon

Bboy Zuloon
Judai Yuki said:
No, the game will have Wi-Fi roms are illegal so they wont give them extras.

I'm like 80% sure on this:
Roms are not illegal. They are totally legal if you own a copy of the game in real life. Otherwise, you may own them legally for up to 24 hours.
I'm 100% sure on this:
Whether or not the ROM will have Wi-fi is completely dependant of the emulator.
 

PyroFly X

Adventurer
I'm like 80% sure on this:
Roms are not illegal. They are totally legal if you own a copy of the game in real life. Otherwise, you may own them legally for up to 24 hours.

That only holds true if you did the ripping of the rom yourself. You cannot use anyone elses copy of a rom since it would not be a backup of your game, it would be a backup of their game. And backing up of your own property is fully legal.
 

DarkSpectrum

Shadow Amongst Light
If nintendo of america gets a copyright on the game then, no, ROMs could easily be disputed in court as illegal whether you ripped it or not. If there were no copyright (which I HIGHLY doubt Nintendo would do without) then an individual could get away with making their own INDIVIDUAL copy so long as it wasn't distrubuted.
The only way I can think of a ROM working would be if the rom itself perfectly emulated the game and the computer it was on perfectly emulated a DS. I can't think that a computer would quite be able to do such. but who knows... i could be wrong. I just hope that the people i interact with would not be so rude as to try and pass off their rom, as a real deal.
 

Pokemaníaco Desesperado

Normal Coordinator
If I'm not wrong you can insert 'roms' (sometimes called 'backups' by some who don't want to accept that what they are doing is ilegal) in card and cartridges, and they work perfectly (if I'm not wrong, those NDS roms that can't be played with emulators can be played in an original NDS through supercards, flashcards, M3 or something by the way).
If it is correctly done, it could emulate an original game perfectly.
 

Greatone

Cascade Trainer
Pokemaníaco Desesperado said:
If I'm not wrong you can insert 'roms' (sometimes called 'backups' by some who don't want to accept that what they are doing is ilegal) in card and cartridges, and they work perfectly (if I'm not wrong, those NDS roms that can't be played with emulators can be played in an original NDS through supercards, flashcards, M3 or something by the way).
If it is correctly done, it could emulate an original game perfectly.

While it's true that you could put the rom in a cartridgees, it's not true that it will necessarily function perfectly. This is because when the rom is ripped, it retains all the information that was coded into the game... but what it loses is the way in which it corresponds to the Gba/snes/nes/N64/Ds/whatever. An example:

000100110000100011100010001100001 (assume that's what the game coding looks like, that's what rippers get when they rip the rom.) But there is also information programmed into the hardware part of the cartridge or the disc itself. It's very difficult to extract that information, it would be like trying to rip the way my processer corresponds with my computer. So these "pirates" are then forced to create (or buy) a cartridge with the same compatability as the original cartridge, but does not have the original hardware coding.

And to me it seems likely that part of the whole Wi-Fi function of the game is not only in the game's coding, but the way the game relates to the DS (because it's the DS that connects to the internet, not the game.) Anyway, I would highly doubt that you could connect to Wi-Fi with a rom/pirated cartridge. Depending on the emulator, you might be able to play over the internet, but probably not though the official Nintendo Wi-Fi service. And if these rippers end up figuring a way to make it happen, I'll be very impressed.
 

Shack

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So... Only if somoen makes an emulator that has the Wi-Fi capabilities
 

DarkSpectrum

Shadow Amongst Light
Shack said:
So... Only if somoen makes an emulator that has the Wi-Fi capabilities

no..... only if someone makes an emulator that has wi-fi capabilities, can fool the wi-fi services into believing it's a real game, and fool the wifi service that it's being used on a real nintendo ds
 

zuloon

Bboy Zuloon
Serebii said:
And no, WiFi wont be implemented in ROMs

You're half right. It'll be implemented into the emulator.

Me said:
I'm 100% sure on this:
Whether or not the ROM will have Wi-fi is completely dependant of the emulator.

Latios said:
Can the ROM play online? Yes and no. It depends on if they get that feature implemented on a DS emulator.
 

ShiningMurkrow

Zzzzz....Wha?
You guys should just listen to Serebii. He's the Head Honcho, right?
 

Wolf Goddess

~Lupo Di Autunno~
ShiningMurkrow said:
You guys should just listen to Serebii. He's the Head Honcho, right?

That doesn't mean that he's always right.
 

Metal Force

o^_^o PWNZOME
serebii said:
The 24 hour thing is completely bogus. If you make a rip of your game its still really iffy

And no, WiFi wont be implemented in ROMs
I agree with you joe, cause if there's it would be ... dunno sortta wierd
 

ArrEmmDee

Well-Known Member
When it comes to ROMs, the downloading of is illegal. The copying of a game from a pack for personal backup is quite technically not against the law and I really don't think they can do much but blow a lot of hot air, though they say it voids your warranty.

I'm not sure how they'd be able to tell whether or not you ever made a copy of your game if you sent it in for warranty, though. :\



WiFi would be enabled in the emulator, just like the actual controls, the simulated touch screen, etc. would be emulated in the emulator. It'd probably just be a matter of "Enable WiFi" in the emulator or something, I dunno. None of the DS emulators are even worth downloading right now, and even if I had downloaded one that worked, I wouldn't say where or how.
 
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