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Sonic Emerald Forms

The name of Shadow in Super Form?

  • Super Shadow (he is Super form after all)

    Votes: 18 66.7%
  • Hyper Shadow (Pretty sure that Sega confirmed this name)

    Votes: 6 22.2%
  • Since Sega did not say (possibly) it does not matter.

    Votes: 3 11.1%

  • Total voters
    27
Okay, I have wondered about this for sometime, does anybody know the official names of all the Chaos/Super/Sol Emerald forms. I know that these have been CONFIRMED by Sega, so these three are correct.


Super Sonic (super mode in more than I care to mention right now)
Turbo Tails (hyper mode in Sonic 3 and Knuckles)
Burning Blaze (Super Mode in Sonic Rush)


These ones widely regarded to be true, though no one has yet said they where confirmed.

Super Knuckles (super form in Sonic and Knuckles, and Sonic 3 and Knuckles, and perhaps Sonic Heroes
Hyper Knuckles (Hyper form in Sonic 3 and Knuckles)
Super Tails (different from Turbo, turbo had the super flickies, Super was in Sonic 2 Debug mode, and perhaps Sonic Heroes)
Hyper Shadow (super form in Sonic Adventure 2, Sonic Adventure 2 Battle and Shadow the Hedgehog)
Hyper Sonic (Hyper form in Sonic 3 and Knuckles) (has anyone actually seen any proof of this name, I have looked all over, and I have seen none)

And these are the ones that are endlessly debated about, even though I am almost possitive that Sega confirmed Hyper Shadow.

Hyper Shadow/Super Shadow So, what is his official name, I am near sure that it is Hyper Shadow, but some still say Super Shadow

One more thing, do Hyper Sonic, Turbo Tails and "Hyper" Knuckles even exist? I know they ARE on the game, but since Sonic 3 and Knuckles has the same ending in Super or "Hyper" form, and we have yet to see the Super Emeralds or its form again, I am of the opinion that they are not canon.
 
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Pokemaníaco Desesperado

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Turbo Tails? When you collect 7 chaos or super emeralds in S3/&K, a text appears on screen and says which form is now available. That's how we know about the 'hyper' forms. When you get all 7 super emeralds with Tails, the text says something like 'Tails got all super emeralds. Now Tals can be Super Tails'.
About Shadow, I'm 100% sure he is Super Shadow, first because his super form looks like Sonic's super form, but not hyper (it's rainbow colored), and second because he does so with chaos emeralds, not super emeralds.
 

zonic the hedgehog

HUR HUR USER TITLE
I believe Blaze's Sol Emerald form is called "Burning Blaze", which comes from the Japanese Sonic Rush manual, but I'm not sure about the Hyper ones. I think Shadow is supposed to be Super Shadow, since there's a little trend where the characters super forms tend to have the first letter of their own name.

 
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Turbo Tails? When you collect 7 chaos or super emeralds in S3/&K, a text appears on screen and says which form is now available. That's how we know about the 'hyper' forms. When you get all 7 super emeralds with Tails, the text says something like 'Tails got all super emeralds. Now Tals can be Super Tails'.
About Shadow, I'm 100% sure he is Super Shadow, first because his super form looks like Sonic's super form, but not hyper (it's rainbow colored), and second because he does so with chaos emeralds, not super emeralds.

His name is Turbo Tails though, I am well aware it is his super form but the name of his super form is Turbo Tails (confirmed by Sega 10+ years ago)
Just like Blaze, it is her SUPER form, but named Burning.
I know that it is the hyper form, but Sega seems to love giving their form other names (except Sonic) that is why many people assume Shadow's name to be Hyper Shadow, even though it is his super form, and I for one agree with that, (as I am sure I have seen proof of Sega confirmation before.

Which only leaves Knuckles (by the way, for the record, many people believe that Turbo Tails is indeed in Hyper Form) [I have no arguments for that, they make REALLY good points (like we saw Super Tails in Sonic 2 for instance, and it does come from the Super Emeralds)]) in which we don't actually know either of his names. And going with the same letter thing we sometimes have, what is his name, knocking knuckles, kickin knuckles, nuclear knuckles (same sound) how bout kick *** knuckles :D. Point is, that people live and die by these 4 names

Super Sonic
Super Knuckles
Hyper Sonic
Hyper Knuckles

When only one has ever been confirmed, Sega has never even COMMENTED on Knuckles forms names (reason most (myself included) believe that he just has the same name as Sonic's form, and I would be remissed to say that Sega (though not denying it, [unlike Mega Sonic]) has never confirmed Hyper Sonic, unlike Turbo Tails which they did.

I think Shadow is supposed to be Super Shadow, since there's a little trend where the characters super forms tend to have the first letter of their own name.
But if you are like 90% of the people who follow Sonic, don't you call Knuckles Super form Super Knuckles? Same letter there?


Ah FINALLY, I found my Hyper Shadow quote
Some guy who knows what he is talking about on a sonic forum said:
It's Hyper Shadow and Turbo Tails. Hyper Shadow is SEGA's name for him.
So the name of his Super form is Hyper Shadow, which actually helps, as now Knuckles (and Tails) super form can indeed be Super Knuckles (or Tails) without any holes in the name game. Still leaves Hyper Knuckles (if indeed Turbo Tails is Hyper Form) name, but oh well.
 
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Pokemaníaco Desesperado

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His name is Turbo Tails though, I am well aware it is his super form but the name of his super form is Turbo Tails (confirmed by Sega 10+ years ago)
So now they are contradicting themselves... Meh, a game is more proof for me than what they say, or are said to say, later. Until I don't see a screenshot where it's called Turbo tails I won't take it as canon.
Just like Blaze, it is her SUPER form, but named Burning.
Not really. That doesn't count since she is using sol emeralds instead of chaos ones (chaos emeralds create super Sonic and super Knuckles, and super emeralds create hyper Sonic, hyper Knuckles and Super Tails [he didn't have a chaos emerald form to begin with, and with those birds he is as uber as hyper Sonic]).

About ""hyper"" Shadow, give a better proof, like an official or reliable page.
 
To be simple, go play Sonic 3&K.
All Chaos Emeralds as Sonic: You can now play as Super Sonic
All Super Emeralds as Sonic: You can now play as Hyper Sonic

All Chaos Emeralds as Knuckles: You can now play as Super Knuckles
All Super Emeralds as Knuckles: You can now play as Hyper Knuckles

All Chaos Emeralds as Tails: Nothing awarded
All Super Emeralds as Tails: You can now play as Super Tails

Turbo Tails is from one of the comic book series. I think it was archie, but I'm not eitrely sure. Hyper Shadow is a mistake from a cheat booklet/stratagey guide.
 

Xtra

You will be missed:(
The name of the graphic for his form is Super Shadow, confirmed by hackers.
 
Xtra said:
The name of the graphic for his form is Super Shadow, confirmed by hackers.

True, but I all ready talked about that too.

Sper Shdw (the name of the file)
Hper Shdw

It is only a one letter difference, I will try to find confirmation of Burning Blaze and Hyper Shadow (though that will be hard, since the first one is now a broken link) as for Turbo Tails confirmation, almost no chance anymore Sonic 3 and Knuckles is 13 years old.

Could Turbo Tails drown, I never checked that out?
 

Pokemaníaco Desesperado

Normal Coordinator
Blue Blood said:
To be simple, go play Sonic 3&K.
All Chaos Emeralds as Sonic: You can now play as Super Sonic
All Super Emeralds as Sonic: You can now play as Hyper Sonic

All Chaos Emeralds as Knuckles: You can now play as Super Knuckles
All Super Emeralds as Knuckles: You can now play as Hyper Knuckles

All Chaos Emeralds as Tails: Nothing awarded
All Super Emeralds as Tails: You can now play as Super Tails

Turbo Tails is from one of the comic book series. I think it was archie, but I'm not eitrely sure. Hyper Shadow is a mistake from a cheat booklet/stratagey guide.
Heh, a strategy guide... I still remember that Sonic CD instruction booklet which called Amy 'Princess Sally'. And how in the world can anybody take something said in a comic book as canon? o_O
 
Pokemaníaco Desesperado said:
Heh, a strategy guide... I still remember that Sonic CD instruction booklet which called Amy 'Princess Sally'. And how in the world can anybody take something said in a comic book as canon? o_O

If Sega just happens to like the name enough to confirm it, or who knows, maybe they all ready had that name, and gave it to Archie than people got confused so they confirmed it to the public.
Again, can Turbo Tails drown though?

From what I can tell, Sega is followers, I would bet that Hyper Shadow was originally Super, but so many people called him Hyper, that they just went with it and confirmed it even though it was not their original intention. Same with Knuckles, they most likely had a name for at least his super form (most likely Hyper too) but since everybody called him Super and Hyper Knuckles, Sega just ran with it. Could be the same with Turbo Tails and Burning Blaze, they saw it in the comics (and Japanese manuel for BB) liked the name, saw fans were using them, just said screw it and confirmed the names.
 

Pokemaníaco Desesperado

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Same with Knuckles, they most likely had a name for at least his super form (most likely Hyper too) but since everybody called him Super and Hyper Knuckles, Sega just ran with it. Could be the same with Turbo Tails
Completely impossible. They appeared in just one game, and in that game they already had a name showed when you collect the emeralds. How many times do we need to repeat that?
About Super Tails drowning, I don't think so, but I'm curious now, I must check ASAP...
 

Xtra

You will be missed:(
The super and Hyper forms can still drown, I believe.
 
Completely impossible. They appeared in just one game, and in that game they already had a name showed when you collect the emeralds. How many times do we need to repeat that?
About Super Tails drowning, I don't think so, but I'm curious now, I must check ASAP...

That is the name of the emerald form (super Hyper) that does not mean they are neccesarily (butchered sp) the names of the character form, Turbo Tails and Burning Blaze for instance.
The super and Hyper forms can still drown, I believe.
Hyper can't
 

Pokemaníaco Desesperado

Normal Coordinator
Cloud Strife said:
That is the name of the emerald form (super Hyper) that does not mean they are neccesarily (butchered sp) the names of the character form, Turbo Tails and Burning Blaze for instance.

Hyper can't
If I take screenshots of what happens when you collect all emeralds and make them an animated gif to prove that they aren't fake, will you believe me when I say that those are their real names and that it's useless to give other new ones for characters that will never (or haven't) appear again?
 

Yamato-san

I own the 5th gen
Hyper forms can't drown. However, "Super Tails" can, even though he's powered up with the Super Emeralds. And it's already been stated, but the name "Turbo Tails" is from the Archie comics.

As for the Super form Tails can acquire in debug mode, probably just a glitch that wasn't meant to be. And it is debateable whether Tails and Knuckles turned Super at the end of Heroes, but if he did, I don't quite know what to make of that. The way I see it is that back in the day, they didn't allow Tails to power up with Chaos Emeralds. The Super Emeralds were probably Sega's way of compensating to the players who had to go through all that trouble with Tails (Super Emeralds require even more effort than Chaos Emeralds). However, since this is his first power-up, he's only considered "Super", not "Hyper". But even if it's just a Super form, for all the trouble of getting the Super Emeralds, they certainly couldn't make Super Tails as dull as Super Knuckles (just slapping on a glow and invincibility). So, as further compensation, they gave Super Tails birds that could hit any enemy on the screen, therefor making him seem just as rewarding as a Hyper form. Now, if Tails just turns Super with the Chaos Emeralds, you can expect him to pretty much be the same minus the birds.

As for his name... obviously, nothing's official, but maybe fans could refer to him as "Sub-Super Tails". Or, if the Super Emeralds were brought back in a future game, maybe Sega could change the name of Tails's Super form with the birds into "Hyper Tails". Doubtful, though, since the Super Emeralds still have yet to make a return. And finally, about the Super Emeralds fitting into the storyline, I think they did. Don't know if this info was made up by GHZ, or actual info from the Japanese instruction booklet, but as you see when you first enter those rainbow rings for the first time, the Super Emeralds are the Chaos Emeralds when they syphen energy from the Master Emerald, resulting in their true form. They might still be in their "true forms" in the Adventure games, given their appearance, but Sega's always been inconsistent with the Chaos Emeralds before Adventure (there's 6, there's 7, there's 8, there's no white one, there's no light blue one, there's no pink one, they're all blue, they're cone-shaped, they're hexagonal, etc.). But in Sonic Adventure 2, the Chaos Emeralds were used while combining the power of the Master Emerald, and Sonic didn't turn Hyper (though, there is a possibility that when Biohazard absorbed the emeralds' energy, it took away whatever energy the Chaos Emeralds had syphened from the Master Emerald).
 
If I take screenshots of what happens when you collect all emeralds and make them an animated gif to prove that they aren't fake, will you believe me when I say that those are their real names and that it's useless to give other new ones for characters that will never (or haven't) appear again?

How many times must I state this. I HAVE PLAYED THE **** GAME, I HAVE GOTTEN THE SUPER EMERALDS, I KNOW WHAT APPEARS. I am saying that it is the name of the form itself though. I usually take what Sega (or another company says) over the games itself, (like in KH II) as they made the games and all. That said, I would GREATLY appreciate that gif, that would rock. Besides, you have to remember that I don't even think the hyper forms are canon, (since the ending doesn't change, and Sonic 3 and Knuckles was originally meant to be one game, not two, so they would not have had 14 Chaos Emeralds.

Hyper forms can't drown. However, "Super Tails" can, even though he's powered up with the Super Emeralds.
Thank you for that, I never drowned with the super forms or hyper forms, so I didn't know if you could.

As for his name... obviously, nothing's official, but maybe fans could refer to him as "Sub-Super Tails". Or, if the Super Emeralds were brought back in a future game, maybe Sega could change the name of Tails's Super form with the birds into "Hyper Tails". Doubtful, though, since the Super Emeralds still have yet to make a return. And finally, about the Super Emeralds fitting into the storyline, I think they did. Don't know if this info was made up by GHZ, or actual info from the Japanese instruction booklet, but as you see when you first enter those rainbow rings for the first time, the Super Emeralds are the Chaos Emeralds when they syphen energy from the Master Emerald, resulting in their true form. They might still be in their "true forms" in the Adventure games, given their appearance, but Sega's always been inconsistent with the Chaos Emeralds before Adventure (there's 6, there's 7, there's 8, there's no white one, there's no light blue one, there's no pink one, they're all blue, they're cone-shaped, they're hexagonal, etc.). But in Sonic Adventure 2, the Chaos Emeralds were used while combining the power of the Master Emerald, and Sonic didn't turn Hyper (though, there is a possibility that when Biohazard absorbed the emeralds' energy, it took away whatever energy the Chaos Emeralds had syphened from the Master Emerald).
Biolizard did not use the Chaos Emeralds AT ALL (He [like Shadow eventually]) can use Chaos control without the emeralds, had Biolizard used the energies, they would have been black like the end of Adventure 1. Going further than that, when Knuckles got the emeralds back in Adventure 1 and had them right by the completed Emerald they were still normal, and they were HUGE before the Master Emerald were brought to them in SA2. Not to mention, Knuckes can fit the entire Master Emerald in his hand (in Adventure 2)
I don't think there were ever 6 ( I know there were 6 in Sonic 1, but you didn't go super, so I just think you don't find one of them) as for being 8, I think the one in fighters may have been fake. The same colors (all blue, or all green, depending on the game) were just to make it easier, NOW as for the Emeralds changing color and shape, I got NOTHING. Which is why I believe this.

Sonic The Hedgehog through Sonic R does not equal Sonic Adventure series(SA1, SA2, SH, ShTH, S Battle, SAd1-3, S Riders, Sonic the Hedgehog 2006, S Rivals, and [most likely] Sonic Wildfire.

So, we have the Sega universe (before the Dreamcast) and the Adventure Universe. If you can find ANY other way to make sense of these, than shoot.

1 Emeralds changing
2 Super Emeralds gone
3 Angel Island moving
4 Humans
5 Morphius in Sega, Earth in Adventure
6 Eggman not being evil anymore
7 No more Hyper forms
8 the different looking Super Sonic
9 The different [possibly] looking Super Knuckles and Tails in Heroes.
10 Metal Sonic Shape Changing
11 No Badniks
12 All the characters who are gone now (except Chaotix, who have we seen who is from the old series)
13 Princess Sally-Amy
As for the Super form Tails can acquire in debug mode, probably just a glitch that wasn't meant to be. And it is debateable whether Tails and Knuckles turned Super at the end of Heroes, but if he did, I don't quite know what to make of that. The way I see it is that back in the day, they didn't allow Tails to power up with Chaos Emeralds. The Super Emeralds were probably Sega's way of compensating to the players who had to go through all that trouble with Tails (Super Emeralds require even more effort than Chaos Emeralds). However, since this is his first power-up, he's only considered "Super", not "Hyper". But even if it's just a Super form, for all the trouble of getting the Super Emeralds, they certainly couldn't make Super Tails as dull as Super Knuckles (just slapping on a glow and invincibility). So, as further compensation, they gave Super Tails birds that could hit any enemy on the screen, therefor making him seem just as rewarding as a Hyper form. Now, if Tails just turns Super with the Chaos Emeralds, you can expect him to pretty much be the same minus the birds.

Sorry, in a game as glitchy as Sonic 2 (how many are there, 3, 4 hundred glitches in that game) I am supposed to believe that Super Tails (who does not glitch the game at all, and looks nothing like Super Sonic, but looks like Super Tails should look) was not meant to exist in this game? He has all the things a super form should have, I just think he was taken out at the last moment for some reason. If you consider Turbo Tails a super form, he is FAR AND AWAY the best Super Form, the Super Flickies just rock so hard. Yeah, Super Knux sux.

Edit, I am (finally) officially of the opinon that Tails and Knuckles went Super in Heroes. I watched it again, payed attention to it to a tee. The fact that the emeralds circled all 3 of them and that they can fly when Sonic is not leading them, makes me think they just did not want to have Knuckles go pink for super again (or for Tails to get circled by birds perhaps). But yeah, Knuckles and Tails (IMO) undoubtably went super form (their Adventure version) in Sonic Heroes.
 
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Yamato-san

I own the 5th gen
[sigh] Anyone wanna try explaining to Cloud how the games DO NOT equal the Archie comics. BTW, it's "Mobius", not "Morphius". Though, you do make some point... the pre-Adventure games seemed to have taken place in some sort of distinct fantasy world, while the Adventure games take place on Earth (Sonic Heroes may be an exception, though). Sonic X emphasizes on this fact, but the anime isn't considered game canon.
 
Yamato-san said:
[sigh] Anyone wanna try explaining to Cloud how the games DO NOT equal the Archie comics. BTW, it's "Mobius", not "Morphius". Though, you do make some point... the pre-Adventure games seemed to have taken place in some sort of distinct fantasy world, while the Adventure games take place on Earth (Sonic Heroes may be an exception, though). Sonic X emphasizes on this fact, but the anime isn't considered game canon.

Scuse me while I shoot myself for putting a Matrix name, I know it is Mobius, I have NO clue why I put that. I know the comics don't equal the game, (same with the anime) [you don't see me talking about dark Super Sonic do you, no of course not. But, whether it originated in the comic or not is irrelavent IF Sega says that yes that is his correct name. Though Heroes looks like it must have taken place somewhere else, it must have taken place on Earth, for the simple reason that it is a continuation of Shadow's story (IF Sonic 2006 or Rivals is about Shadow's story as well, someone at Sega is getting shot, he allready has Adventure 2, Battle, Heroes, and Shadow the Hedgehog, I hope they stay true to the end of ShTH, leaving his past behind) and all the other games in that story clearly take place on earth.
 

UberSorcerer

Well-Known Member
1. Mobius is Sega of America only, in Japan it was ALWAYS Earth, when they changed over to the Japanese names, they did it with Earth too.
2. S1-3 happens on islands in the pacific ocean, inhabited by Sonic & Friends and only known to the Government(Sence it is San Diago in SA2, I assume it';s the US goverment) and Eggman's Family
3. ITS FREAKING SUPER SHADOW, HYPER IS NO LONGER CANNON AS IT IS NEVER SHOWN ANYWERE BUT S3&K. TURBO TAILS IS ARCHIE ONLY. BLAZE IS BURNING BECUASE IT IS THE SOL EMERALDS, NOT CHAOS. Sorry for Caps, just the name Hyper Shadow makes me intollerent. SoA and Sonic Team have NEVER said Hyper Shadow, Turbo Tails, Whatever you call it Knuckles and Phoenix Blaze were cannon.
4. Amy was only called Sally in S-CD because SoA wanted to make money of the comic and SatM Cartoon.
5. All the games are one continuity, just SA got a make over, think Queer Eye for the Animal Guy.
6. The Archie Comics(Crap IMO) are an Alt Universe.
7. The "Hyper" forms in S3&K are not technicaly cannon, more towards a reward for doing everylittle thing, otherwise they would have been mentioned in Media other than the comics and showed as much as Super Sonic and Super Shadow in Sonic X.

Yamato-san said:
Sonic X emphasizes on this fact, but the anime isn't considered game canon.
In the original, they are transported from their S1-3 Homes in the
Pacific islands, 4kids tryed to connect to the Urkel Sonic series >_<

Wikipedia said:
Conflict with the games

Some people suggest that the unnamed planet in the anime is also Sonic's home planet in the games. This, however, greatly conflicts with the games. The games Sonic Adventure, Sonic Adventure 2 and Shadow the Hedgehog have obviously human populations, with a human government. Although Sonic X explained this part in the two Adventure adaptations, by having Sonic (and the other characters) transported to Earth by the time the events in those games took place, a faithful adaptation of the newer game Shadow the Hedgehog would have to mean they would have to go back to Earth.

The planet in the games is still referred to as Earth in the most recent games, but in Sonic X, Sonic and his friends went from Earth back to their planet in episodes 49-52.

Perhaps, most obviously, there is the fact that official Japanese manuals for the Mega Drive games stated several times that those games took place on Earth, on islands in the pacific ocean (according to the Sonic X continuity, all games prior to Sonic Adventure would have to take place before Sonic got transported to Earth). One game manual even mentioned where on Earth Sonic was born; Christmas Island (strictly speaking, this makes Sonic an Aussie).

Finally, in Sonic Riders, Dr. Eggman states in in-game dialogue that Sonic is "the fastest creature on Earth".


Hope that clears up abit.
 
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