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(Speculation) What ability did Greninja have as a Froakie/Frogadier?

Discussion in 'Pokémon Animé Discussion' started by Nightlingbolt, Jul 8, 2018.

  1. Nightlingbolt

    Nightlingbolt AKA Nightlingbolt

    Since we know Gen 8 is coming next year, I've been thinking about how they'll make Ash-Greninja available in the new games, if it doesn't outright get programmed out like Cosplay Pikachu or Spiky-Eared Pichu. To me, that means either programming a unique ability for Froakie and Frogadier to replace Torrent, or coming up with some way to turn Torrent into Battle Bond, which makes me wonder what ability Ash's Greninja had in its past two stages. I can only see three possibilities:

    -Technician, based on its use of frubbles to aid its attacks.

    -Own Tempo, since it was apparently considered strange among other Froakie and refused multiple Trainers before Ash.

    -Or it somehow unlocked Battle Bond after learning about the hero Greninja of the Ninja Village, which wouldn't make much sense in a gameplay sense since A: it learned the story as a Frogadier, and B: Sanpei's Greninja likely knew the story ever since it was a Froakie.

    So, any ideas?
  2. Darthlord7

    Darthlord7 Sieg Kaiser Reinhard!

    It was implied that it always had Battle Bond as an ability since it was a Froakie. In other words, it was a special Froakie from the very beginning of the series. Because of that, it rejected every trainer it ended up with because it felt that no one could draw out its latent ability till Ash appeared and was the very first trainer it trusted which was the reason that they activated the Ash-Greninja form the moment it evolved.
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  3. Ignition

    Ignition *stares into your soul*

    It had Torrent or a incomplete form of BB like regular Froakie given out by Sycamore as a Froakie and Frogadier but once it got to his final evolutionary stage, Battle Bond was "awakened" after being pushed to his limits and its bond with Ash.
    Last edited: Jul 8, 2018
  4. Darthlord7

    Darthlord7 Sieg Kaiser Reinhard!

    Oh did Sycamore state that? I didn't recall that so oh well I stand corrected then.
  5. Ignition

    Ignition *stares into your soul*

    Oh, no, that's my interpretation/theory. Sorry if I mislead you.
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  6. Genaller

    Genaller My ideals will shatter the truth of this world!

    Well no you were correct the first time. Battle Bond was always Froakie’s ability; it was just latent (a.k.a dormant) till his bond with Ash drew it out a.k.a their bond “awakened” it.
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  7. Nightlingbolt

    Nightlingbolt AKA Nightlingbolt

    So basically, Froakie/Frogadier had no ability at all until it evolved into Greninja?!
  8. AshxSatoshi

    AshxSatoshi Ice Aurelia

    No. The anime never explained if it’s an ability or not. People got the Battle Bond thing AFTER the Sun and Moon demos were released. “Battle Bond” has never been stated or said in the anime.
  9. AznKei

    AznKei Getting ready for Pump It Up XX.

    I doubt it's an ability but I do miss when Froakie/Frogadier was throwing frubbles in order to blind/incapacitate their foes and used them like a rope to attach allies into safety.
  10. GarchompTheAssassin

    GarchompTheAssassin Water starter fan

    +1 for Unawakened/Dormant Battle Bond
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  11. OshyHikari

    OshyHikari c l a r i t y

    I'm probably guessing it may have had Torrent much like every other Water-type starter prior to becoming Greninja.
  12. Redstar45

    Redstar45 The Fire type master !

    It is probably does has that ability .......

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