spenser's markings

[~*Myuu the Ryuu*~]

http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=battlefrontierbrainspenser0ci.jpg

if you go to the above link it shows a close-up of spenser. look closely at the top of his staff. it has Kyogre's fin's marking. look at his shoulders. they have something similar to Team Aqua's symbol. Does this mean anything? Or is it just a coincidence? I don't think Kyogre's marking would be a coincidence...

 

[^^Yoshinichi^^]

Well..doesnt he have a Kyogre when you battle him for the gold symbol?

 

[Fire Ranger]

Never noticed.

 

[Absol!]

Cool I never noticed that before. I wonder if it means anything...

 

[CoolTrainerTerry]

It might have something to do with him being from Atlantis. I'm not saying he is, it's just what I got from that. He could also be a Team Aqua Member, which I highly doubt.

 

[~*Myuu the Ryuu*~]

Well..doesnt he have a Kyogre when you battle him for the gold symbol?

no, most legendaries are barred from the frontier including kyogre.

 

[ZNtelle]

Well..doesnt he have a Kyogre when you battle him for the gold symbol?

He has a Suicune. Based on all that has been brought to my attention only just now regarding Spencer, I think the relation CoolTrainerTerry brought up relating Spenser to Atlantis makes most sense.

 

[Magma Leader Maxie]

What? The first time I looked at it, I saw an Unown "A"!

 

[XANA]

When he was young maybe he had to do with unown. Maybe mabye not. But hes suppsost to have a unown if he has the markings.

 

[~*Myuu the Ryuu*~]

well, it sort of does look like unown, but it also looks like the aqua emblem.
hmmm... unown. why would he have unown makrings?
he's from atlantis? maybe he will have something to do with the ninth movie.

 

[Magma Leader Maxie]

Ok, this is a little difficult, but PM Serebii asking him to turn the use of tags here "on".

Take a look at this diagram:
[IMG]http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/SenecaPhilosophus/diagram16serebiif.png

I've numbered it so that you know what I'm talking about.

1) If you look at the image, the small "antenna" is present on his shoulder. It appears on both the Team Aqua symbol and on Unown A.

2) In the center of the aqua symbol, no "dot" is present. However, on the shoulder, there obviously is a dot. Compare it with the Unown "A" on the far right.

3) On Spenser's shoulder, at the bottom of the marking, there is no "bone" ending (characteristic for the Aqua symbol). Again, compare the pictures.

From this evidence, I would say it's definitely closer to an Unown "A" than to the Team Aqua symbol. Judge it for yourself.

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Sources
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1) Aqua symbol from the serebiiforums.com avatar archive
2) Unown "A" sprite from nightmarevalley.com

 

[CoolTrainerTerry]

he's from atlantis? maybe he will have something to do with the ninth movie.

Not that I know of. That's just what I got from it.

 

[~*Myuu the Ryuu*~]

Ok, this is a little difficult, but PM Serebii asking him to turn the use of tags here "on".

Take a look at this diagram:
[IMG]http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/SenecaPhilosophus/diagram16serebiif.png

I've numbered it so that you know what I'm talking about.

1) If you look at the image, the small "antenna" is present on his shoulder. It appears on both the Team Aqua symbol and on Unown A.

2) In the center of the aqua symbol, no "dot" is present. However, on the shoulder, there obviously is a dot. Compare it with the Unown "A" on the far right.

3) On Spenser's shoulder, at the bottom of the marking, there is no "bone" ending (characteristic for the Aqua symbol). Again, compare the pictures.

From this evidence, I would say it's definitely closer to an Unown "A" than to the Team Aqua symbol. Judge it for yourself.

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Sources
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1) Aqua symbol from the serebiiforums.com avatar archive
2) Unown "A" sprite from nightmarevalley.com

clever. really clever. and i thought I was smart when i noticed this . so it's closer to unown A. but that doesn't solve the msytery about why kyogre's marking is there. the unown thing may be a coincidence, but you can't ignore the top of his staff.

 

[Magma Leader Maxie]

but that doesn't solve the msytery about why kyogre's marking is there. the unown thing may be a coincidence, but you can't ignore the top of his staff.

I doubt the Unown A is a coincidence... A is for aqua! (Not the team, though)

The way I think this functions:
The A on his shoulders is not an Aqua symbol because it doesn't make sense that it's an Aqua symbol. Spencer is NOT a member of Team Aqua, and Team Aqua is associated with evil, expanding the oceans, destruction, shallow-mindedness,... whereas Spencer isn't part of Team Aqua (at least for now!) he's a water-lover, judging by the staff (which undoubtedly has Kyogre's fin pattern on it).

I don't know why people mistakenly connect Kyogre with Team Aqua. Yes, indeed, there is a link, but in situations like these, Kyogre has nothing to do with Team Aqua. For example, I could love Raticates and Zubats, but does that really connect me with Team Rocket at all? No, it doesn't. Ergo, Spencer just likes water and Kyogre, and not wanting to tattoo himself with the symbol of a criminal band, he used the neutral symbol of Unown A to establish a connection between him and water (latin for "water"=aqua). Not every water Pokemon should be instantly associated with Team Aqua, just as not every fire Pokemon should be associated with Team Magma.

Apropos, he has no connection to Team Aqua, and it's just scotoma, the mind interpreting objects and symbols on the base of a subconscioulsy self-implanted thought or motive.

 

[~*Myuu the Ryuu*~]

what does kyogre have to do with spirit? that's spenser's symbol... i'm not saying he has an aqua connection, i'm just asking why kyogre's fin markings are there...

 

[jellsprout]

I looked at the game sprite and I didn't see any unown markings there. But I do see something red on his staff that could be Kyogre's markings.
But it still is weird why he has that staff.

 

[Pika_Princess]

How do we know that he isn't the old man at the top of mount pyre? Maybe he protects kyogre, and that is why his staff has its symbol.

 

[price]

If he is the old man at the top of mount prye that would maye him phobes(sorry if thats spelled wrong)grandfather.I don't think she has anything to do with Team aqua.

 

[Prof.BIG]

I hope its true because team Aqua will be taking over the battle frontier like in GS when teamRocket took over the radio tower or something. I'll be investegating if theresany other link too him and team Aqua. Checking what he talks about and what do the other trainers talk about him.

 

[Megahorn Heracross]

That's strange... Ubers are not allowed in Frontier!!! And no, Team Aqua ain't evil anymore after you beat 'em.