Spirit of the game

[Tim the turtle]

Im relatively new to this site and browsing around a bit I find that there are all these people talking about move sets and all. Now I haven't played in a long time but when I see people with say a fire pokemon which has only one fire move i annoys me. I understand that having more than one fire move may not be so incredibly useful, but a fire pokemon should have more than one fire move because it is in its very nature to do so. Does that make much sense to anyone, what do others feel about this?

 

[Evanji Axu]

lol, you're funny. A Fire type with all fire moves has tons of trouble countering anything that resists fire. Very nature my foot.

 

[darkpkmn fan1]

If a fire pokemon has all fire moves, what happens if it takes on a water type. Big trouble.

 

[AJ Flibble]

Only have one Fire move for more diversity. You should only have 2 moves of the same type if they serve different purposes. And bear in mind some Pokemon shouldn't have any attacking moves at all aka Umbreon.

 

[ellie]

Well, it's ok to do that if you're talking about ingame, but competitive battling isn't about "the spirit of the game." It's about giving your Pokemon the best possible EV's, natures, IV's, and movesets to win.

 

[MondoTR]

The thing about having more than one of the same type of attack is that it will only be good against a few Pokemon while having many different attack types will make it good against more Pokemon. And many people here are into competitive battling hence why they try not to have more of one of the same attack. As for me, I don't care if people use more than one of the same attack type on the same Pokemon, I do it sometimes myself but I understand the disadvantage of it.

 

[Brown Bomber]

loling so hard.

I think you would cry if you visited Smogon.

EDIT: lol Emerald what the hell are you talking about, competitive battling IS the "spirit" of the game

 

[water types rule]

I don't think it's a very good idea. Although i do have a Blaziken with Flamethrower and Overheat(Overheat was an egg move, so I didn't waste the TM). But that doesn't matter much since I hardly ever use him.

 

[Tim the turtle]

Well, it's ok to do that if you're talking about ingame, but competitive battling isn't about "the spirit of the game." It's about giving your Pokemon the best possible EV's, natures, IV's, and movesets to win.

If this is true and competitive battling is not about the spirit of the game then why do so many people complain about using legendaries?

lol, you're funny. A Fire type with all fire moves has tons of trouble countering anything that resists fire. Very nature my foot.

You ever thought that maybe when encountering a pokemon that resists fire that you just use a different one?

 

[ellie]

If this is true and competitive battling is not about the spirit of the game then why do so many people complain about using legendaries?

People complain about using legendaries because they take no skill to use and it makes the game boring. With other groups, there's a bigger variety of Pokemon to be used and movesets to go with them.

And by the spirit of the game, I thought they were talking about like the anime where it's not all about winning it's about having fun blah, blah, blah.

 

[Evanji Axu]

You ever thought that maybe when encountering a pokemon that resists fire that you just use a different one?

It's called "It's your last Pokemon" or "Dugtrio is out and you can't switch".

 

[Blaze Dragon]

Sorry, but a Pokemon shouldn´t have more than 1 Attack of the same type. Example:
Charizard: Fire Blast, Flamethrower, Overheat, Blast Burn VS Any Water/Rock/Dragon/Fire/Pokemon with the Ability Flash Fire. Your last Pokemon . ¿What do you do?. And:
Charizard: Flamethrower, Fly, Earthquake, Metal Claw VS the before said Pokemon. Rock and Fire weakness to Earthquake and Metal Claw, Dragon normal damage Fly, Water normal damage Fly, Earthquake.

 

[öpi]

loling so hard.

I think you would cry if you visited Smogon.

EDIT: lol Emerald what the hell are you talking about, competitive battling IS the "spirit" of the game

dito dito dito =O

 

[Jupetta]

Variety is better than monotony.... as it was said before, Pokémon need moves that assist them with their "Problem Types"...
~;354;

 

[Evanji Axu]

For instance, a Typhlosion with Thunderounch (I *had* to use that one) to combat waters, or *insert Water Pokemon here* with Ice Beam.

 

[Fluorescent Adolescent]

Im relatively new to this site and browsing around a bit I find that there are all these people talking about move sets and all. Now I haven't played in a long time but when I see people with say a fire pokemon which has only one fire move i annoys me. I understand that having more than one fire move may not be so incredibly useful, but a fire pokemon should have more than one fire move because it is in its very nature to do so. Does that make much sense to anyone, what do others feel about this?

In its very nature? That's ridiculous mate.

2 direct attacking moves of the same kind is useless if you're battling competitively. Why waste a whole move slot when you could use that slot to cover pokemon outside your type range/counter standard or staple pokemon/counter those pokemon who you are weak against. Basically, its all in the strategy. I think the only time it doesn't apply is with CBhera having brick break and Focus Punch (both fighting moves). That's an exception though.

Btw it's only a game, not as if they really have moves you could class as "being in their nature" to have.

 

[stigy]

The spirit of the game is whatever you want it to be. If you think the spirit of the game is having a craptastic team, but your having fun, then so be it. If you think the spirit of the game is to build up the strongest team to take down others, then so be it.

 

[Blaze Dragon]

Im relatively new to this site and browsing around a bit I find that there are all these people talking about move sets and all. Now I haven't played in a long time but when I see people with say a fire pokemon which has only one fire move i annoys me. I understand that having more than one fire move may not be so incredibly useful, but a fire pokemon should have more than one fire move because it is in its very nature to do so. Does that make much sense to anyone, what do others feel about this?

On it´s Nature? Haven´t you ever played the Battle Palace? The nature of the Pokemon is on the games, but doesn´t affect what they know, only what they want to use. Like on the real life, I hate Gym, it isn´t on my nature to do it, but I learn what I have to do and I do it even if it isn´t of my nature

 

[Raden Surya]

Well....you need to go to the Battle Frontier. Here, you will able to bring only 3 Pokémons, but you will face ±28 Pokémons with a lot variety of types. If your 3 Pokémons can only use the moves that same with its type, will you win?

 

[Akerin]

Only have one Fire move for more diversity. You should only have 2 moves of the same type if they serve different purposes. And bear in mind some Pokemon shouldn't have any attacking moves at all aka Umbreon.

*cough* My Umbreon has 3 attack moves. ;P
Then again, she's a rare case who was (legitimately) hatched as Eevee with a high Special Attack IV, and a nature to boost it. Bit of EV training in Special Attack and she can KO a Pokemon of the same level in 2 attacks (or less if there's a type advantage) now.

On Topic:
I agree with what everyone else has said. Putting more than one move of the same type on a Pokemon is not smart at all. If Pokemon could learn more than four moves, then maybe you'd see more Venusaurs with Solar Beam and Giga Drain, but since four is, and always will be the limit, you have to make a Pokemon who will be prepared for anything.

Here's an example of why:
Imagine you're fighting a water type with only a few HP left. It's managed to knock out all but one of your Pokemon.. your fire type. You're forced to send it out, but with four fire-type moves the water type kicks your butt and you lose.

Now if your fire type had another attack like... say.. a Charizard with Dragon Claw, it possibly could have beaten the water type and you could have won the battle.

Now do you see why it's important to have a variety of types on one Pokemon?