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Starter Discussion & Thread

What is you favorite Sun & Moon starter?

  • Rowlet

    Votes: 467 43.2%
  • Litten

    Votes: 343 31.8%
  • Popplio

    Votes: 270 25.0%

  • Total voters
    1,080
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Lykouros

Sandslash fan

Lykouros

Sandslash fan
Ok, thanks guys! Yeah, the popplio evo looks too much like Oshawott, but I also thought it was really cute, haha.
 

Skeith

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clbgolden12

Alolan (and soon to be Galarian) trainer
Because they're not what you expect?
Or because he just doesn't like how they look in general?

Sorry if this was already brought up, but what about this 'scan'?

http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/3751/2772/original.jpg

I'm sure it's fake but they do look really nice. No idea when this was supposedly released.
Fake for numerous reasons. Art style looks off, English typings, CoroCoro never leaking this early (unless it's like August or something, but it's not)...
 

kemal07

Well-Known Member
I forgot how many fakes roll around each time a new gen / game is anounced :D. I'm assuming the final evolution anime sheet thing has still not be confirmed fake (although very likely). It is safe to assume that the official final evolutions may not even be reveiled until release or a bit before right?
I'm hoping it all becomes clear real soon!

I do hope however that Popplio doesn't evolve into an evil fighting clown. We already have Conkeldurr.

Besides, Popplio seems to have a circus theme. The way I see it design wise are:

Popplio - Performs with one large bubble maybe balancing on said bubble (resembles clowns).
2nd evo - Becomes a juggler standing on its two feet juggling multiple bubbles (resembles jugglers/clowns).

3rd evo - A highly talented magician / ring master!
 

Lykouros

Sandslash fan
Also, can someone give me pointers on whether or not these images are supposed to be hand-drawn or not? The script is hand-written, but are the images?

Lines.jpg

Above is an image of rowlett's final evo in two poses that match up perfectly with each other when overlapped (other than the edited wings/hood flap), which would be incredibly unlikely/impossible if these images are hand-drawn. Even if drawn in Photoshop, it's usually quicker and more natural looking to re-draw something in a pose than it is to copy/paste the pose and then edit it. Maybe I'm reaching, it just seems a bit weird to me.
 

Huckleberry

Poison Trainer
I forgot how many fakes roll around each time a new gen / game is anounced :D. I'm assuming the final evolution anime sheet thing has still not be confirmed fake (although very likely). It is safe to assume that the official final evolutions may not even be reveiled until release or a bit before right?

That's the thing with leaks, though. They aren't always released per the official schedules. If someone unethical somehow got access to these sketches and released them, we could very well know the final evolutions long before GF intended to reveal them. The source is definitely skeptical, though. I will say I am incredibly impressed with the artist if these are fake.

I remember someone got to play an alpha version of X/Y and released details like Inkay and Pancham's evolution methods LONG before GF was releasing info and the official confirmation of that information didn't come til close to release.
 

Requiem Aeternam

Dance like an eggplant!
Umm....Guys, I think this might be worth discussing. Okay before you look at this, who remembers how Emboar and Samurott were leaked? It was from anime concept art, what I'm about to show is possibly the same. Though they're not that bad I mostly fear for GF if these are real.

http://imgur.com/a/xbYQ9 Stater Final evos

1. If you didn't like Delphox cause it's feminine then You're not gonna like this. Popplio's completely comes out of left field. Which is why I don't completely buy these, but GF have surprised us before and they do have that legit look to them. If this is real Popps is taking the selkie route, which would make Water/Fairy, which is what some people are theorizing.

2. Oh I can hear plane tickets being bought, pitch forks sharpened, and guns loaded. I personally think it's okay and will stick to Litten being my starter, but do GF really dare make another Fire/Fighting starter even though people were pleading not to. Though some of this does match that GF creativity and with my theory that Litten would grow angrier as it evolves, and what better way to express your anger than....fight.....uh oh.

3. I have to say this one's probably the best out the bunch. I mean it's a friggin Robin Hood archer owl, that's BA. And how it uses arrows matches that GF creativity. Darn, that seems too real. Thought it looks like it'll keep that Flying typing.

What do you guys think?

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Ashike

Tora

Fukurou

While I'm pretty sure that these are fake, I actually really like Popplio's final evolution here. It looks really cool IMO and I would take Popplio in a heartbeat if it turned out to be the real thing. Rowlet's evolution is okay but it doesn't really appeal to me anywhere near as much as Popplio's and I probably wouldn't take Rowlet as my starter. I absolutely hate Litten's evolution. The design just screams Fire-Fighting Type to me which I am sick to death of.

Sorry if this was already brought up, but what about this 'scan'?

http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/3751/2772/original.jpg

I'm sure it's fake but they do look really nice. No idea when this was supposedly released.

These ones are obviously fake but I'm glad they are. I don't like any of these designs.
 
Also, can someone give me pointers on whether or not these images are supposed to be hand-drawn or not? The script is hand-written, but are the images?

View attachment 15638

Above is an image of rowlett's final evo in two poses that match up perfectly with each other when overlapped (other than the edited wings/hood flap), which would be incredibly unlikely/impossible if these images are hand-drawn. Even if drawn in Photoshop, it's usually quicker and more natural looking to re-draw something in a pose than it is to copy/paste the pose and then edit it. Maybe I'm reaching, it just seems a bit weird to me.

I am so happy you pointed this out. Means we won't get an awful cat wrestler.
 

knightwolf09

Well-Known Member
While I'm pretty sure that these are fake, I actually really like Popplio's final evolution here. It looks really cool IMO and I would take Popplio in a heartbeat if it turned out to be the real thing. Rowlet's evolution is okay but it doesn't really appeal to me anywhere near as much as Popplio's and I probably wouldn't take Rowlet as my starter. I absolutely hate Litten's evolution. The design just screams Fire-Fighting Type to me which I am sick to death of.



These ones are obviously fake but I'm glad they are. I don't like any of these designs.

What would you like to see for the starter's evolutions? Please give me details.
 

Huckleberry

Poison Trainer
Also, can someone give me pointers on whether or not these images are supposed to be hand-drawn or not? The script is hand-written, but are the images?

View attachment 15638

Above is an image of rowlett's final evo in two poses that match up perfectly with each other when overlapped (other than the edited wings/hood flap), which would be incredibly unlikely/impossible if these images are hand-drawn. Even if drawn in Photoshop, it's usually quicker and more natural looking to re-draw something in a pose than it is to copy/paste the pose and then edit it. Maybe I'm reaching, it just seems a bit weird to me.

They don't actually match up perfectly, although they are very similar. Look at the wing on the left. In one, it is extended back behind the tail feathers. In the other, it drops down straighter and does not reach past the tail. Also, in one, the feet are shaded, but not in the other.

Edit: I'll add that, if these are real, those poses appear to be the view of the pokemon from behind during battle, which means the sketches would need to remain rather consistent.
 

Requiem Aeternam

Dance like an eggplant!
What would you like to see for the starter's evolutions? Please give me details.

I'm not sure what I want to see for the starter evolutions. I've prefer not to give it much thought so I don't get attached to a particular idea only for it to not be real. I'm not really bothered about the final design for the Grass and Water starters but I am concerned about what the Fire-type could be as I don't want to ever see another Fire-Fighting type again. I'd honestly prefer to not have any part Fighting starters this time.
 

Huckleberry

Poison Trainer
I'm not sure what I want to see for the starter evolutions. I've prefer not to give it much thought so I don't get attached to a particular idea only for it to not be real. I'm not really bothered about the final design for the Grass and Water starters but I am concerned about what the Fire-type could be as I don't want to ever see another Fire-Fighting type again. I'd honestly prefer to not have any part Fighting starters this time.

I agree about Litten's typing, but I also think it would not be improbable to have a Fire/Dark wrestler. Someone mentioned earlier that wrestling is seen as deceptive/fake and full of dirty tricks, which fits a Dark typing well enough. I would be very disappointed in another Fire/Fighting typing (or a fighting typing for any of the starters, really).
 
Everyone is going on about typings, but weren't (based on the japanese site) the typings revealed to be Grass/Flying, Fire/ground, and water/fighting based on images that were being hidden in the source code?
 
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Huckleberry

Poison Trainer
Everyone is going on about typings, but wasn't (based on the japanese site) the typings revealed to be Grass/Flying, Fire/ground, and water/fighting based on images that were being hidden in the source code?

There was a theory about that, but no actual confirmation as to why those type images were included in the source code.
 
There was a theory about that, but no actual confirmation as to why those type images were included in the source code.

I'm just hoping they were in order because no one wants another fire/fighting.
Then again, they might be there because Nintendo intends on releasing new mons? HOWEVER, if that were the case, we'd have also seen the type images for steel, psychic, and ghost.
 
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