AaronLoves
Water Trainer
Would like that, I always felt like starters were these Rare and POWERFUL pokemon, but thats kind of died down recently.
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Would like that, I always felt like starters were these Rare and POWERFUL pokemon, but thats kind of died down recently.
Disaster_Lord
Sad Bayleef is Sad.
That's not how it works, OU is a % thing. Basically the chances of you seeing that Pokémon at least once in 20 battles, being strong but having huuuuuuge issues in being put on teams due to being a harder to support version of another mon, or outright having no niche or poor support options would end up dropping a big stats or nuke Pokémon to UU, or if he is too centralizing there to BL.
OU doesn't mean power, OU means being reliable, just like latios, pivot Lando T or Talonflame wich flagship isn't offensive brave bird, but actually the specially defensive set, look at good old Salamence being borderline by being a mediocre dragon with the only niche of mixed scarf moxie and wish shuffler being the only sets he is able to pull of when compared to other dragons.
I doubt GF follows Smogon either.
Divine Retribution
Conquistador de pan
I'd argue the mere existance of Mega Kangaskhan is proof positive GameFreak doesn't give a damn about competitive balance anyways.
There's plenty of viable starters. Greninja, Blaziken, and Serperior are all extremely dangerous threats (to the point where 2 of the 3 have so far been banned). Swampert was a staple of gen 3 and 4 OU but just couldn't keep up with the power creep. Venusaur and Charizard are both viable in OU thanks to their Mega forms.
Gen 2 kinda got screwed competitively but Feraligatr can be deadly in the lower tiers.
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AaronLoves
Water Trainer
Thanks for letting me now, I'm pretty new to competitive Battling!
Disaster_Lord
Sad Bayleef is Sad.
Actually Feraligatr in OU is a very interesting mon, never bothered seeing in wich tier he is but he is a superior crawdawnt in the reliable side while able to use its better speed tier to actually use DD and recoilless lo to be different enough from gyarados and mega gyarados to work.
Lack of immunities hurt him though.
Lack of immunities hurt him though.
AaronLoves
Water Trainer
According to Smogon feraligatr is in UU
If Popplio3 ends up being a Special attacker with Serence Grace, and is Water/Fairy.
Would there be many moves aside from Possibly Scald, Psychic and Moonblast that i could spam?
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Disaster_Lord
Sad Bayleef is Sad.
Body slam comes to mind, I think all seal like mons learn this one.
See he is a strong Pokémon, but his match up vs some scarfers and reliance on certain pivots gone makes him less uses hence the UU.
It can be used in OU, but he shines and thrives destroying the walls of UU with SD and having a good match up vs offense with aqua jet in UU.
Tiering actually gives a lot of Pokémon a chance to shine without being overshadowed.
I could have sworn gator would be bl2 given that haxorus really does a lot of stuff better.
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Divine Retribution
Conquistador de pan
Haxorus lacks priority, I would guess that and Sheer Force are what sets Gatr apart.
Disaster_Lord
Sad Bayleef is Sad.
Yep, the niche, I honestly just slap a CB on haxorus and see the world burn. Kind of like Rhyperior in OU gaining usage for ****ing most teams that use cleffable.
Alexander18
Dragon Pokemon fan
Peck seems to be an early move for Rowlet. May be it learns it at level 7 or 10? Probably learns mostly physical Flying attacks.
JohnDoe
Yo!
Is anyone going to bring it up that it's suspicious that we got new leaks the day of the trailer which virtually confirms the starter evolution concept art? I mean wouldn't it have made more sense to bundle the leaks together into one super leak and not a half that pops up the day of? How valid is that starter split evolution leak anyway? (Genuinely curious)
The splitevo leak is pretty valid looking so far because it has basically nothing proven wrong yet, and predicted new variations, just none we have seen yet. It also has connections to the reddit leak which is even more valid.
2dtyplosion
Well-Known Member
We need to see Rockruffs evolution and if it has different forms. Given the shared secret if that happened it would imply it's probably split evos.(it could be syncro)
I don't think its synchro at all and i dont think that will be in the game. With customization back not sure how it could work anyway. But yea if we see that rockruff has basically split evos then its very likely.
Thepowaofhax
Well-Known Member
The Litten Evo's concept art does have a picture of Mallow sitting by it sleeping. Mallow being revealed now confirms that it could be real.
The only thing pointing to a confirmation is the fact Mallow's sitting right there with Lit3 and Ash, and the pages leaked MONTHS before she was revealed.
lemoncatpower
Cynical Optimist
you'll know because you wont have to ask about it
I'm sure the forums will be buzzing with it once we get any sort of confirmation
knightwolf09
Well-Known Member
Recently in the anime it's looked into more. It's called the Bond Phenomenon. It happens to a few trainers and pokemon, but when both unleash each other's power it can do amazing things. Which does sound a bit like Z-Moves. Greninja could do it cause it had the ability to. So I wouldn't be surprised if the Alola starters and Rockruff could do the same.
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