Starter Discussion & Thread

[Alexander18]

How is there "no evidence" when the leaker who told us about

no gyms
Oricorio
New forms for old pokemon
Fat and hairy Yungoos evo
No Synchro Evolution
Bewear and Mimikkyu's names (this one you can't guess at all)

said Rockruff has more than one evo?

Not all of it came true so I am not going to assume that split evolution is legit.

 

[goodpeople25]

Z-moves could still be the secret, and CoroCoro was just being weird.

And as I said before, I don't think split evo forms are a big "secret".

Or the secret is still related to Z moves but only once they evolve.

 

[Shiwin]

And as I said before, I don't think split evo forms are a big "secret".

Split evo forms for starters would be a "big secret" though. It literally has never happened before. Though I have no idea how that makes Rockruff special... Maybe because it has the same method/condition for evolving with the starters.

Honestly, if they all have split evos, I'm hoping the evos are dependent on the version you are playing (only because it would be a nice way of using the Sun and Moon theme) OR the time of the day.

 

[clbgolden12]

How is there "no evidence" when the leaker who told us about

no gyms
Oricorio
New forms for old pokemon
Fat and hairy Yungoos evo
No Synchro Evolution
Bewear and Mimikkyu's names (this one you can't guess at all)

said Rockruff has more than one evo?



Why would it make sense for Z-moves to be a specifically starter pokemon AND Rockruff secret? That actually makes zero sense + sounds like (I don't mean to be dramatic lol) straight-up denial

Split evo forms are unique for starters, it could be a secret

Not really a big secret for Rockruff, though.

Not to mention, didn't CoroCoro say something "the power in their tiny bodies"? Sounds like Z-Moves.

Not all of it came true so I am not going to assume that split evolution is legit.

Wrong leak. The one Macabrelicous described was the Reddit/Bewear leak. The one about split evos is another one.

 

[Alexander18]

Wrong leak. The one Macabrelicous described was the Reddit/Bewear leak. The one about split evos is another one.

What is the difference? The one from Reddit/Bewear could be wrong just like others. I do like the idea of starters gaining a split evolution but I doubt it would happen.

 

[Aromatic Mist]

I've said this before, but don't get your hopes up for 'split Evos'. They'll be forms at best due to sharing a PokéDex number, and if so the changes will likely be as much as the Alolan Formes, so there's a very little chance of bipedal Litten unless it just looks like 'Panthster' on all fours, granted I could be wrong.

Also, if Z-Moves was the secret, why hasn't Rockruff been shown using one since the reveal?

 

[Gizmoa]

I've said this before, but don't get your hopes up for 'split Evos'. They'll be forms at best due to sharing a PokéDex number, and if so the changes will likely be as much as the Alolan Formes, so there's a very little chance of bipedal Litten unless it just looks like 'Panthster' on all fours, granted I could be wrong.

Also, if Z-Moves was the secret, why hasn't Rockruff been shown using one since the reveal?

it could be as simple as using a z move with them changes there form or something.

 

[clbgolden12]

What is the difference? The one from Reddit/Bewear could be wrong just like others. I do like the idea of starters gaining a split evolution but I doubt it would happen.

The difference is (among other things) that one mentioned split evos and one didn't.

 

[Taodragon]

I doubt Z-Moves would be the secret, it's a mechanic shared with all Pokémon that has the only requirement being that they hold the stone and have a move of the same type. That's not a secret I'd say is inherent to them as it's not special to them at all, if it was the secret, I think they would've been a lot more general.

That's why my belief is that either the secret is Synchro evolution (or what the anime called it, I forgot what someone else said about that) or it's the forms theory that's been going around due to the rumors. Of those two, the latter is implied by a rumor with a good track record for Rockruff at least, so I'd definitely say it's in the cards for that to be the case.

 

[knightwolf09]

I've said this before, but don't get your hopes up for 'split Evos'. They'll be forms at best due to sharing a PokéDex number, and if so the changes will likely be as much as the Alolan Formes, so there's a very little chance of bipedal Litten unless it just looks like 'Panthster' on all fours, granted I could be wrong.

Also, if Z-Moves was the secret, why hasn't Rockruff been shown using one since the reveal?

Cause starters and Pikachu are more important

I doubt Z-Moves would be the secret, it's a mechanic shared with all Pokémon that has the only requirement being that they hold the stone and have a move of the same type. That's not a secret I'd say is inherent to them as it's not special to them at all, if it was the secret, I think they would've been a lot more general.

That's why my belief is that either the secret is Synchro evolution (or what the anime called it, I forgot what someone else said about that) or it's the forms theory that's been going around due to the rumors. Of those two, the latter is implied by a leak with a good track record for Rockruff at least, so I'd definitely say it's in the cards for that to be the case.

Let's face it, this isn't the first time corocoro overhyped certain things. And clbgolden12 is right, it did say "they hold a power in their tiny bodies" maybe they have unique Z-Moves and crystals.

 

[Alexander18]

The difference is (among other things) that one mentioned split evos and one didn't.

Still doesn't change the fact that both could have false info. Starters could gain new forms though.

 

[clbgolden12]

Still doesn't change the fact that both could have false info. Starters could gain new forms though.

But the discussion was about split evos, not leaks legitimacy in general. :S

Anyways, what if the secret was just that they all evolve?

 

[Macabrelicious]

Not all of it came true so I am not going to assume that split evolution is legit.

They have a fat *** resume of correct leaks and nothing has been disproven except they got Alolan Ninetales's type HALF wrong, but they stated that it would get an Alolan Form + that it would be Fairy, so

I feel like it's also easier to mishear or misinterpret or forget that Ninetales is Fire/Fairy instead of Ice/Fairy than Rockruff getting multiple evos; if your source told you "big info big info ninetales gets an ice/fairy type growlithe is water big info big info" you might only remember "ninetales gets a fairy type" and assume a fire/fairy typing. Whereas "rockruff gets more than one evo" is harder to mishear/misinterpret/whatever, comparatively.

And finally, although this possibility is unlikely, if you recolored Alolan Vulpix and Ninetales (models and art) into another warmer color they could easily be Fire/Fairy (unless I'm overlooking something). A development change isn't completely out of the question, although I guess it almost is

I guess that as long as the leaker got something partially wrong they could be wrong about Rockruff's split evo, so skepticism isn't totally out of the question. But I think everything right now points in the direction of Rockruff getting a split evo

 

[Taodragon]

Let's face it, this isn't the first time corocoro overhyped certain things.

Not in terms of mechanics or special Pokémon abilities and forms. They said similar things about forms, Megas, and the like, so I don't think they'd exaggerate their secret to be something that every Pokémon is capable of.

And clbgolden12 is right, it did say "they hold a power in their tiny bodies" maybe they have unique Z-Moves and crystals.

Where did they say that?

Either way, that could just as easily imply forms or Synchro evolution, not just 'special' Z-moves.

 

[Macabrelicious]

Anyways, what if the secret was just that they all evolve?

The secret is they all get cosplay forms

 

[knightwolf09]

Not in terms of mechanics or special Pokémon abilities and forms. They said similar things about forms, Megas, and the like, so I don't think they'd exaggerate their secret to be something that every Pokémon is capable of.



Where did they say that?

Either way, that could just as easily imply forms or Synchro evolution, not just 'special' Z-moves.

It said it in June's corocoro, bottom left.

 

[Taodragon]

It said it in June's corocoro, bottom left.

Serebii just says that they "hide a secret", so unless that's a different translation, I'm not seeing that on the site.

 

[knightwolf09]

Serebii just says that they "hide a secret", so unless that's a different translation, I'm not seeing that on the site.

Somebody translated it as "they hide a power in their tiny little bodies"

 

[clbgolden12]

The secret is they all get cosplay forms

Sweet, hope I can give my evolved Litten a tuxedo.

Serebii just says that they "hide a secret", so unless that's a different translation, I'm not seeing that on the site.

I don't think Serebii said it, but I think a mod said it here on the forums.

 

[Aromatic Mist]

it could be as simple as using a z move with them changes there form or something.

I'm pretty sure that the leak said it was forms more akin to Wormadam.

But you know what? I actually really, really like this idea. Maybe this could be what Ash-Greninja is?