Starter Speculation/Discussion Thread

[rocky505]

really? how tall is serperior???

Serperior is 10'10. Pitiful that it couldn't get EQ. Hopefully all 3 can get it this time.

 

[Excitable Boy]

4x weaknesses mean nothing, ever thought about Ferrothorn?

Not necessarily meaningless. There are fewer good Fire-types than there are good Water-types.

Serperior is 10'10. Pitiful that it couldn't get EQ. Hopefully all 3 can get it this time.

Height for snake Pokemon isn't height, it's length.

A standing Arbok isn't really 11 feet tall.

 

[Gypsi_]

Froakie really is my favorite I'd have to say this generation. I really hope he doesn't get fat & stays slim. I'd really like to see his second typing either Dark or Poison.

 

[Yveltal96]

Not necessarily meaningless. There are fewer good Fire-types than there are good Water-types.



Height for snake Pokemon isn't height, it's length.

A standing Arbok isn't really 11 feet tall.

still considered height to them
lol i don't care though i love snakes and a 10 foot 10 inch serperior is godly!

 

[rocky505]

Height for snake Pokemon isn't height, it's length.

A standing Arbok isn't really 11 feet tall.

I know I never said it was height or length I just said it was 10'10.

 

[mudkipzz]

Not necessarily meaningless. There are fewer good Fire-types than there are good Water-types.

And there are more pokemon with Water Absorb than a fire equivalent to counter.

 

[Yveltal96]

And there are more pokemon with Water Absorb than a fire equivalent to counter.

but no fire pokemon have water absorb let alone a starter

 

[mudkipzz]

but no fire pokemon have water absorb let alone a starter

What does that have to do with anything?

I'm saying if a pokemon has a 4x fire weakness, you can carry another pokemon with Water Absorb/Storm drain to counter the pokemon that would otherwise harm it. It would still be very strong competitively.

 

[Yveltal96]

What does that have to do with anything?

I'm saying if a pokemon has a 4x fire weakness, you can carry another pokemon with Water Absorb/Storm drain to counter the pokemon that would otherwise harm it. It would still be very strong competitively.

oh i see what you're talking about i use storm drain gastrodon

 

[Excitable Boy]

And there are more pokemon with Water Absorb than a fire equivalent to counter.

There are 10 fully-evolved Pokemon with Flash Fire as opposed to 12 with Water Absorb. Considering what percentage of those are commonly used, it's a negligible factor.

 

[mudkipzz]

There are 10 fully-evolved Pokemon with Flash Fire as opposed to 12 with Water Absorb. Considering what percentage of those are commonly used, it's a negligible factor.

+ 3 more with storm drain.

4 pokemon are OU (One is Politoad with it's other ability), 3 are RU and 1 is UU. Compared to Flash fires 1 OU (who is Ninetails with it's other ability), 3 UU and 2 RU.

The point is, a 4x water weakness wouldn't be the end of the world, at all.

 

[Yveltal96]

+ 3 more with storm drain.

4 pokemon are OU (One is Politoad with it's other ability), 3 are RU and 1 is UU. Compared to Flash fires 1 OU (who is Ninetails with it's other ability), 3 UU and 2 RU.

The point is, a 4x water weakness wouldn't be the end of the world, at all.

i know that but i'm just comparing the starters
if fennekin becomes fire/ground froakie would smear him across the floor

 

[Dragalge]

Now for my list of level up moves Fennekin could learn if it is Fire/Psychic (this is for its final evo):

Lv.1 Tackle
Lv.5 Growl
Lv.8 Ember
LV.12 Miracle Eye
Lv.16 Confusion
Lv.20 Take Down
Lv.24 Teleport
Lv.29 Flame Burst
Lv.35 Psyshock
Lv.39 Flamethrower
Lv.46 Double Edge
Lv.51 Psychic
Lv.55 Fire Blast
Lv.63 *insert new special Psychic move here*

 

[Tuskie Tyrant Yoko Kurama]

That's a good moveset you've come up with there. It looks possible as well.

 

[Yveltal96]

Now for my list of level up moves Fennekin could learn if it is Fire/Psychic (this is for its final evo):

Lv.1 Tackle
Lv.5 Growl
Lv.8 Ember
LV.12 Miracle Eye
Lv.16 Confusion
Lv.20 Take Down
Lv.24 Teleport
Lv.29 Flame Burst
Lv.35 Psyshock
Lv.39 Flamethrower
Lv.46 Double Edge
Lv.51 Psychic
Lv.55 Fire Blast
Lv.63 *insert new special Psychic move here*

i like this moveset but there isn't much of a variety of coverage moves
also miracle eye was a nice touch

 

[Draqunity]

Most starters only get coverage through TM. Otherwise it's just Type/Type2/Normal moves.


Anyway, hoping that Fennekin is Fire-Fighting Dark. I understand from the trailer, but Pokemon can always use moves that aren't their type.


But GF is GF and we'll get another Fire/Fighting.

 

[Yveltal96]

Most starters only get coverage through TM. Otherwise it's just Type/Type2/Normal moves.


Anyway, hoping that Fennekin is Fire-Fighting Dark. I understand from the trailer, but Pokemon can always use moves that aren't their type.


But GF is GF and we'll get another Fire/Fighting.

samurott learned megahorn by level i know there's more but that's what comes to mind and i'm too lazy to dig

 

[SilverFox]

Now for my list of level up moves Fennekin could learn if it is Fire/Psychic (this is for its final evo):

Lv.1 Tackle
Lv.5 Growl
Lv.8 Ember
LV.12 Miracle Eye
Lv.16 Confusion
Lv.20 Take Down
Lv.24 Teleport
Lv.29 Flame Burst
Lv.35 Psyshock
Lv.39 Flamethrower
Lv.46 Double Edge
Lv.51 Psychic
Lv.55 Fire Blast
Lv.63 *insert new special Psychic move here*

I'm sure it will have more gen 6 moves than only one.

 

[Yveltal96]

I'm sure it will have more gen 6 moves than only one.

well we don't know any of them yet
this is a good moveset but yes some of these will most likely be new moves

 

[Dragalge]

I'm sure it will have more gen 6 moves than only one.

That's true but Empoleon only learned one newly introduced move in its level up moveset I believe (Aqua Jet) so having one Gen 6 move can still work.