confuser987
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A frog can become a sergeant frog.
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A frog can become a sergeant frog.
Blesstoise
Squirtle Squad
Good speculation, don't know if foxes are associated with magic, not here in the Netherlands i think..
Foxes are fast, mysterious and smart. So it could work.
Does anybody agrees that pure starters are fine aswell? Yet the designs of this gen just scream for a second type.
yes it does actually
Remoraid represents guns or revolvers and Octillery represents cannons and tanks.
I thought everyone knew this by now >.>
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I assumed it was because it was an archerfish (which shoots targets with streams of water) combined with a remora. It doesn't look like a missile to me.
my bad, it wasn't a missile. I remember now I will edit it, but the evolution does in fact represent the evolution of arms
Remoraid is basically just a gun, to be specific a revolver, and Octillery represents other heavy artillery.
I always mess that one up
Gergenator
Veteran Trainer
SO...... it still would of been nice if he was Fire/Dragon
like since gf has hidden abilitys.....they might make Hidden types.....for pokemon who are eligable for it
Maybe but dragons resist all three starter typings, unless the rest were dragons or ice types (which would only work on grass types dragons) they're a huge imbalance.
Empoleon was still like that though. Grass was resisted by his steel typing.
And yet Torterra got ground typing, keeping that triangle. Dragon is much harder to keep balanced because two out of the three starters would resist ice typing due to being fire/dragon and water/dragon and thus the only way the other starters could fight back is if they all were dragons.
exactly. If they did do something like that, of course they would change the typings, so a triangle still remains.
I am saying it is always possible for starters to become dragon, but it is highly unlikely that they will do it with these starters
I want to either see solid typing or some new triangle that doesn't involve another fire/fighting. Unless they manage to royally mess up every single evolution, it'll be hard to beat these designs as is.
I'm really hoping that Chespin ends up as a more defensive grass type though instead of the current trend for most (barring Torterra).
I'm really hoping that Chespin ends up as a more defensive grass type though instead of the current trend for most (barring Torterra).
sunny phoenix
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but blastoise can learn ice type moves so he can still have an advantage over dragon charizard... especially on gen 1 when there wasnt any usefull dragon type move, so even if charizard was dragon blastoise could harm him while char no... anyway thinks are as they are but dont give me the excuse thet they did it for balance cause pokemon is one of the most unbalanced games ever!!
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Fire resists ice, it'd only hit neutrally.
sunny phoenix
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ahahahah i failed so hard XD.. i totally forgot that!!
I have calculated what is very likely to be what Chespin's base HP, as well as its final evolution's, is going to be. Here's the link to the document: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5p2Z2YoTKj3UDcyOWxNakxzemM/edit?usp=sharing
Surprised no one's commented on this yet. Very cool. ~ 105 base hp is pretty cool, though to be honest on a grass type it'd be best to have lower base hp and higher defenses, for leech seed and drain moves. I don't agree with your type prediction however. While grass/rock wouldn't be a bad combination, it wouldn't be good either. Defensively, it leaves few resists, only resisting one type (electric) and still being weak to ice, fighting, bug, and steel. I'd go so far as to say it's worse than grass alone. That being said, I disagree mainly with your point that it doesn't fit flavor wise. Chespin is a hedgehog, of course it's gonna learn rolly moves like rollout, defense curl, maybe even rapid spin and gyro ball.
On an unrelated note, and this might just be me being too hopeful, does anyone think it'd be too weird having a starter be dark type? I mean, dark type is evil type in japan, and if I was a kid and my loveable little chespin turned into an evil poke, I'd be weirded out.
BurningWhiteKyurem
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With Remoraid and Octillery I see it more as something like this:
At least there was thematic relationship between Remoraid and Octillery that justified taking a different direction when you deconstruct what the evolution stood for. Don't just make a poor argument and say "oh GF did this, so we can make a leopard grow from a dragonfly with no thematic direction at all!"
At least there was thematic relationship between Remoraid and Octillery that justified taking a different direction when you deconstruct what the evolution stood for. Don't just make a poor argument and say "oh GF did this, so we can make a leopard grow from a dragonfly with no thematic direction at all!"
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