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Strong Strategy Steals the Show! (767)

Discussion in 'Pokémon Black & White - Adventures in Unova' started by Serebii, Dec 13, 2012.

  1. RVD_fan

    RVD_fan Well-Known Member

    This is my favorite battle of Best Wishes, and the dub didn't do anything to change that, but it kind of frustrates me when I see a battle like this and wonder why they hardly do these types of strategic battles any more. I feel like we could be having these types of battles all the time if the writers didn't feel the need to bring Ash down in skill every generation.

    It made Ash and Stephan look like elite skilled trainers, it gave a spotlight to some Pokemon that haven't really had a chance to shine and made them all look good, it made Ash's training before the Unova League worthwhile, and on top of that it was an exciting battle with some solid back-and-forth action.

    I think the constant one-on-one battles from the tournaments has taken away a lot of the team-based strategy that, IMO, makes Pokemon battles interesting and fun to watch. I get that they're shorter, faster to animate, etc. but I think that the high-level battles are the best part of the show and generally what people are most interested in.
     
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  2. Joltik-Kid

    Joltik-Kid Same thing, day in;day out ಠ_ಠ

    That last line was directed towards kids entering the show this late down the line... Sawk was already scanned twice before this episode. That depends, unless you were old enough to properly use the internet to locate the original episodes before they were dubbed, I've been watching this show since it first debut in the US, way back when I was 6
     
  3. Caseydia

    Caseydia Ace Trainer

    I know it's irratating to watch Ash rescan pokemon. I have complaint about this before also, however there is nothing we can do about it. Don't dislike the wholw episode due to just that though.

    I know it was scaneed twice. I'm watching Best Wishes right now. However, we know Ash have scanned pokemon he's seen before. This is nothing new. But I don't waist my time being upset about it anymore because it's a waist of my time.
     
    Last edited: Apr 5, 2013
  4. matt0044

    matt0044 Well-Known Member

    Except it is in BW where he scans them more than once in a single goddamn series. I can see Koffing being rescanned since Ash may need reminders on a Mon (and the kids who aren't familiar with the first gen) he hadn't seen in a while but here...
     
  5. yuoke

    yuoke Treasure huntin'

    The only time when the scanning bothered me was having to scan all 7 eeveelutions ina row without break. It felt so awkward and forced in.
     
  6. wobbanut

    wobbanut Team Awesome

    Great battle between Ash and Stephan. I agree with Iris and Cilan that Leavanny was an odd choice for battling sawk, though. Where was unfezant, anyway?

    6/10
     
  7. J Ken

    J Ken RAVE

    I liked this battle. It was the only Unova League Battle where Ash didn't look like a noob or a weakling.
     
  8. NPT

    NPT Just a member

    "Strong Strategy Steals the Show!"

    After last week's terrible "Axew getting lost" episode, Ash and Stephan finally began their battle. They choose Krookodile and Liepard respectively. Krookodile being the main star of the battle was pretty cool, he's the only Ash's Pokémon who actually got good character development throuhout the BW saga.

    Krookodile vs Liepard was good and I liked the battle scenes with Dragon Claw and Shadow Claw, they were well-animated. Palpitoad vs Zebstrika was decent, Ash choosing Palpitoad was a good idea. Palpitoad's new move was cool and Stephan taking advantage of the poison stat was smart. I'm glad Palpitoad got the win.

    I wasn't expecting Leavanny to be used against Sawk, but he did put up a good battle. It was cool to see Leavanny using X-Scissor and to activate his Swarm ability, but sadly it lost. Next, Ash choose Krookodile, who used Aerial Ace and defeated Sawk! So Steaphan got eliminated and Ash moved to next round, but they both put up a good fight and I enjoyed it. It was good to see Ash and Stephan's friendly rivalry in both battle and...........eating.

    Next, Ash is up against Cameron, who chose his secret weapon Hydreigon ! I thought he'd save Hydreigon for later, but he chose it right off the bat. Oh Well, he's not the sharpest tool in the tool shed anyway.

    Overall, good episode. The battle between Ash and Stephan's match is the only decent Unova League batlle, the other league battles were lackluster to me.
     
    Last edited: Dec 27, 2013
  9. Mr.Munchlax

    Mr.Munchlax Thunder Trainer

    Does anyone else feel like this was the one decent battle in the Unova League, or is it just me?
     
  10. Benny™

    Benny™ Best Wishes Do Come True Under The Sun & Moon

    This was my favorite Unova League episode.

    I'm okay with the league itself but it wasn't as fun as the other minor tournaments, those ones have better character interactions, scripts, and more. I think they exhausted all their good ideas on the previous tournaments :(
     
  11. Joltik-Kid

    Joltik-Kid Same thing, day in;day out ಠ_ಠ

    Your not wrong, it was definitely the best battle of the Unova League... but like most (really could be all) Unova battles, it was outclasses by it predecessor's
     
  12. Disappointment (but not actually THAT big of a disappointment) #1: So it was just Krookodile Ash sent out in the end. That was uneventful. Here Iw as thinking it was going to be something like Charizard.

    Disappointment (but not actually THAT big of a disappointment) #2: Cameron's secret weapon is only a Hydreigon. Again, that was uneventful. I was sort of expecting thinking it was going to be some ultra-rare legendary.

    With that out of the way, it is now Ash versus Cameron. Like I said before, I have a feeling this is going to be the end of the line for Ash in the Unova league.
     
  13. Lord Trollbias

    Lord Trollbias Y'all Salty Bishes

    Only decent battle in what is probably the worst League in the anime's history.
     
  14. KyogreThunder

    KyogreThunder Call of Fate

    The best league battle in BW by far.I liked the fact all three Pokemon Ash used to battle Stephan had new moves under their belts(especially Krookodile's Aerial Ace).However,Liepard lacking any Dark-type moves was really disappointing.
    8/10
     
  15. Mrs. Oreo

    Mrs. Oreo Banned

    Stephan's Liepard impressed me cuz it put up a good fight against Krookodile. Palpitoad tying with Zebstrika and then Leavanny losing to Sawk was unfortunate, tho at least Ash managed to defeat Stephan here. :]
     
  16. Leonhart

    Leonhart Well-Known Member

    Waruvial winning against Kenyan's Lepardas and Dageki made me happy because Waruvial proved himself as a powerhouse, unlike Gamagaru who only managed to tie with Zebraika despite his type advantage. Anyway, the dinner scene was fun, and I was kind of surprised when Kotetsu revealed Sazandora.
     
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  17. Wednesdayz

    Wednesdayz Banned

    Well I found the battle between Ash and Stephan amazing. I particularly enjoyed the use of Palpitoad and Leavanny in this battle. Both were used in different ways which spiced up the battle. As for Stephan, his Pokemon and strategies weren't groundbreaking.
     
  18. Alloutℯ

    Alloutℯ Banned

    Ash should of walked this battle 3 to 1. Sawk should have never gotten past Leavanny, but based on "Anime Logic", Ash can't win anything but final Pokemon vs final Pokemon.
     
  19. Leonhart

    Leonhart Well-Known Member

    I was actually getting major Sekiei League flashbacks when we saw Satoshi at the Isshu League stadium on his own at night. That scene made me even sadder though, because history was about to repeat itself.
     
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  20. Daizy

    Daizy I call you honey

    Overall a nice battle. Even though Leavanny didn't get a win it didn't feel like it was there to just take the fall either. Ash seemed to handle Stephan just fine, certainly a change from Trip.
     

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