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strongest starter out of type

deadly devon

Sea Ruby Trainer
who is the strongest starter out of type and generation


2nd gen
cindaquil
quilava
typlosion

1st gen
charmander
charmeleon
charizard

3rd gen
torchic
combusken
blazeken



2nd gen
totodile
crocanaw
freligator

3rd gen
mudkip
marshtomp
swampert

1st gen
squirtle
wartortle
blastoise


3rd gen
treeko
grovyle
sceptile

2nd gen
chikorita
bayleef
meganium

1st gen
bulbasaur
ivysaur
venasaur
 
1st Gen: Venusaur. Able to do damage and hold its ground simultaneously. Charizard can do damage(lol), but it lacks the ability to live. Blastoise is a good Tank, but it can't do a lot of damage. Venusaur can do both. And, apart from Sleep Powder, it's pretty unpredictable. Once you've figured out what it's doing, you've probably 2+ Pokémon to it.

2nd Gen: Meganium. It has good Offenses, excellent Defenses, and usable Speed. It has the movepool to take advantage of those Stats, Offensive or Defensive. Typhlosion can Sweep quite well, but there are better Fire Types. It comes in a close second, though. Feraligatr, ignoring its awesome design, isn't the best Sweeper. No Physical STAB, and rather low Sp. Defense and Speed Stats hurt it.

3rd Gen: Swampert, though this is a hard decision. But in the end, Swampert's excellent staying power, one weakness, good movepool, and passable Offenses are just too good to pass up. Sceptile and Blaziken are both brilliant, though.

Grass: Meganium, but only marginally. Sceptile is in no way weak, but it doesn't have the ability to survive major blows. Venusaur is only a little less usable than Meganium, if at all.

Fire: Blaziken, for versatility purposes. This Pokémon can rip through opposing teams with no effort at all, thanks to its wide, wide movepool and excellent Offensive Stats.

Water: Swampert. Feraligatr isn't all that usable. Blastoise is decent, but it's outclassed by Suicune and Milotic, both of which are capable of taking damage and dealing some back. Blastoise can only take it. Swampert, though, is difficult to defeat and capable of destroying teams.



Overall: Swampert, most likely. Like I said, it's terribly to take down, and perfectly capable of ripping apart nearly any Team.

~*CB*~
The 8th Champion
 

deadly devon

Sea Ruby Trainer
~*Commander Blizzard*~ said:
1st Gen: Venusaur. Able to do damage and hold its ground simultaneously. Charizard can do damage(lol), but it lacks the ability to live. Blastoise is a good Tank, but it can't do a lot of damage. Venusaur can do both. And, apart from Sleep Powder, it's pretty unpredictable. Once you've figured out what it's doing, you've probably 2+ Pokémon to it.

2nd Gen: Meganium. It has good Offenses, excellent Defenses, and usable Speed. It has the movepool to take advantage of those Stats, Offensive or Defensive. Typhlosion can Sweep quite well, but there are better Fire Types. It comes in a close second, though. Feraligatr, ignoring its awesome design, isn't the best Sweeper. No Physical STAB, and rather low Sp. Defense and Speed Stats hurt it.

3rd Gen: Swampert, though this is a hard decision. But in the end, Swampert's excellent staying power, one weakness, good movepool, and passable Offenses are just too good to pass up. Sceptile and Blaziken are both brilliant, though.

Grass: Meganium, but only marginally. Sceptile is in no way weak, but it doesn't have the ability to survive major blows. Venusaur is only a little less usable than Meganium, if at all.

Fire: Blaziken, for versatility purposes. This Pokémon can rip through opposing teams with no effort at all, thanks to its wide, wide movepool and excellent Offensive Stats.

Water: Swampert. Feraligatr isn't all that usable. Blastoise is decent, but it's outclassed by Suicune and Milotic, both of which are capable of taking damage and dealing some back. Blastoise can only take it. Swampert, though, is difficult to defeat and capable of destroying teams.



Overall: Swampert, most likely. Like I said, it's terribly to take down, and perfectly capable of ripping apart nearly any Team.

~*CB*~
The 8th Champion
ty but im askin really based on type but i do apreciate ur answer

for example

i think typlosion is the best fire starter

blastoise best water starter

venasaur best grass starter
 
M

meowth-in-boots

Guest
For the grass type I would pick Treecko

For the water type I would pick Totodile

For the fire type I would pick Charmander


Did I do it right?
 

Manipulon

Well-Known Member
1st - Venusaur. It is defensice and offensive at the same time. Charizard is pure offense, while Blastoise is inverted. Venusaur has a perfect balance.
2nd - Typlosion. Despite not being dynamic in its stats, it does not have any major downfalls. It also has a versatile TM movepool (fire, electricity, ground and more)
3rd - Swampert. It has a strong offense, but its best asset is its defensive capabilities. The other two have low defenses.

Grass: Sceptile. Before the other two have time to execute a strategy, or land an uber powerful move, Sceptile will cut them up. It is also the only one to boast the Leaf Blade attack, which is valued in competitive battling.
Fire: Blaziken. Neither of the three have uber defenses, and Blaziken has not only high Attack, but high Special Attack, making it more versatile in offense.
Water - Swampert. It dishes out and absorbs damage, buth physical and special. Enough said.

Overall - I can't say, because each has a major asset that is unique. Some are balanced, some are sweepers, some are tanks, and some are a combination of the three. I don't hink I should be the one to say. It really depends on your preference. Mine is Blaziken, though.
 

deadly devon

Sea Ruby Trainer
Manipulon said:
1st - Venusaur. It is defensice and offensive at the same time. Charizard is pure offense, while Blastoise is inverted. Venusaur has a perfect balance.
2nd - Typlosion. Despite not being dynamic in its stats, it does not have any major downfalls. It also has a versatile TM movepool (fire, electricity, ground and more)
3rd - Swampert. It has a strong offense, but its best asset is its defensive capabilities. The other two have low defenses.

Grass: Sceptile. Before the other two have time to execute a strategy, or land an uber powerful move, Sceptile will cut them up. It is also the only one to boast the Leaf Blade attack, which is valued in competitive battling.
Fire: Blaziken. Neither of the three have uber defenses, and Blaziken has not only high Attack, but high Special Attack, making it more versatile in offense.
Water - Swampert. It dishes out and absorbs damage, buth physical and special. Enough said.

Overall - I can't say, because each has a major asset that is unique. Some are balanced, some are sweepers, some are tanks, and some are a combination of the three. I don't hink I should be the one to say. It really depends on your preference. Mine is Blaziken, though.
ya typlosion learns great fire moves
 

pikadon92

Raiden Maximus
Water type:Swampert. Cursepert with hydro pump is my fav :) It's only weakness is grass.

Grass type:In UE I've tried chikorita only, but I have to say venusaur is the best, although I like magenium for special tank!

Fire type:Tied bwetween charizard (or rather, charmander) and typlosion. When it comes to UE I think charmander is the best. It has enough moves to be a special sweeper (fire, dragon and dark, hp is optional) but it need one of it's attack to be sub for petaya though. Although cyndiquil has the same states as charmander, it lacks of movepools (like it doesn't have any dragon moves and it cannot learn thunderpunch yet, unlike typhlosion) and torchic is the same thing. Same for Charmeleon/Quilarva/Combusken, but combusken can be a choise bander.

But when it comes to Final Evoultion though, I guess I have to go for typhlosion, now that it finnally has thunderpunch. Charizard is screwed for speedy rock types (Or rock types that can survive under its earthquake/HP grass) and blaziken needs to share some evs on attack and sp.attack.
 

deadly devon

Sea Ruby Trainer
if typlosion gets thunder punch or any rock move then it will eat charizard alive
 

Headshot-Jackal465

The Kwisatz Haderach
Typhlosion beats charizard, but blaziken and it are a toss-up
Venasaur beats sceptile since it actually learns grass techniques...better moveset...But Meganium takes it with its versatility
Swampert...Blastoise is too defense-minded, Feraligator's ok, but Swampert's resistance to electricity is pwnage...better moves (despite the fact that it lacks hydropump) and better stats

Bulbasaur better 1st generation
cyndaquil or chikoriita second
Mudkip third
 

deadly devon

Sea Ruby Trainer
Headshot-Jackal465 said:
Typhlosion beats charizard, but blaziken and it are a toss-up
Venasaur beats sceptile since it actually learns grass techniques...better moveset...But Meganium takes it with its versatility
Swampert...Blastoise is too defense-minded, Feraligator's ok, but Swampert's resistance to electricity is pwnage...better moves (despite the fact that it lacks hydropump) and better stats

Bulbasaur better 1st generation
cyndaquil or chikoriita second
Mudkip third
actually you have to wait till lv 42 to evolve mudkip for hydropump
 

Allison_Park

Try and Touch ME!
I would choose...
Venusaur-Can take really good blows and still keep going without using synthesis. Its a good starter for grass types.

Blaziken-Really good all around has a great movepool and can take a majority of pokemon.

Swampert-really good starter has an advantage towards elektric pokemon, but x4 weak to grass. Downside of this pokemon.
 

pikadon92

Raiden Maximus
deadly devon said:
if typlosion gets thunder punch or any rock move then it will eat charizard alive
But if charizard knows earthquake or rock slide then it's the last man dies.
 

pikadon92

Raiden Maximus
deadly devon said:
typlo is 2x rock char is 4x
Typlosion won't survive under charizard's earthquake, since its defence is equally as low as charizard's.
 

deadly devon

Sea Ruby Trainer
pikadon92 said:
Typlosion won't survive under charizard's earthquake, since its defence is equally as low as charizard's.
he would survive that earthquake that earthquake wont 1 hit typlosion he would have like half-quater hp left and plus typlosion 2x ground but charizard is 4x rock and plus hes not even a ground type to even make earthquake work so effectively so hands down typlosion will kill him

typlosion will kill blazeken even if he has sky uppercut

just teach him earthquake/dig or areal ace to knock him out (not 1 hit but beat him)

plus typlision is faster than both of them

so basicly typlosion is dominant
 

Sk@rmory288

Put User Title Here
1st Generation - Im going with Charizard. It has nice attack and special attack along with speed, making it a nice sweeper. Although, Houndoom and Moltres are better however im my opinion.

2nd Generation - Typholison. It used to be harly used, but now it can learn thunderpunch! Very nice. Now it can counter from water attacks when it when theres no way out. Plus it can learn some other decent moves.

3rd Generation - Sceptile. MY favorite Overall from all generations. It can learn leaf blade, a rare yet nice attack. Plus it's good in speed and special attack.
 

Grass Guardian

Rags to Riches
Kanto: Venasaur by a land slide. He learns the best in game starter move set (of the first generation) naturally (Sleep Powder, Leach Seed, Growth) and has awesome staying power and offensive power. With the proper strategy and move set he's capable of taking Charizard out, I.E stabbed Sludge Bomb! In the right hands this baby is a monster and is perfectly capable of taking out 2+ pokemon before he's taken out. Left Overs + Leach Seed almost guarantees at least one take out. The one I have on Net Battle has taken out many of those OU powerhouses such as Tyranitar, Metagross, Groudon, Celebii, and Mew. Venasaur is not a pokemon to be taken lightly and you’re a fool if you think otherwise.

Jhoto: Meganium. Again the grass starter is the best, but this time not by much. Typhlosion is hot on her heels (literally) but this pokemon has awesome staying power with her way above average defenses. She's very much like Venasaur except he's got better offensive stats plus his immunity to the move Toxic, which is this awesome pokemon's down fall. Meganium can tank on both sides, but Toxic spells defeat for her.

Hoenn: The Hoenn starters never appealed to me much. They're all ugly as sin! But I suppose Swampert is best for reasons stated above.

Grass Starters: Venasaur, but only by an edge. Mostly because of the fact he can attack and tank wonderfully without any worry of being poisoned. Also his access to Stabbed Sludge Bomb, which is the reason both Meganium and especially Sceptile don't stand a chance of beating him. Sure, Scep has Ariel Ace. Big whoop. It's not like that's going to do much to Venasaur before Venas fires back a stabbed, 2x power Sludge Bomb right back at Scep's pathetic defense stat and takes him out. And unless Meggy knows HP fire, she doesn't have a move to take out the Venasaur powerhouse. When it comes down to it, Venasaur is superior of the grass starters. He isn’t The King of Grass Pokemon for nothing...

Fire Starters: Blaziken. He's got awesome attack power with an Earth Quake and Rock Slide attack that spells defeat for his other fire starter counterparts. Especially an Endure/Reversal Blaziken. That's nothing to laugh at.

Water Starters: Swampert, for reasons stated above.
 
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GoGoPokemom

Soul Trainer
the worst fire starter I have seen is Typhlosion , limited movepool . Anyway Johto starter are not very good in my opinion , the best is Kanto Starter .
 

Grass Guardian

Rags to Riches
At least Typhlosion can learn another special attack that he can actually put to use (Thunder Punch) while all Charizard can do is scratch like a cat with Dragon Claw. What's Dragon Claw going to do? It's only super effective against Dragons and it doesn't even 1HKO them unlike Ice Beam, which is a far better move. Plus at least Typhlosion doesn't carry a 2x weakness to the very common thunderbolt and a 4x weakness to one of the most common moves in competitive battling, Rockslide.
 

GoGoPokemom

Soul Trainer
Well , charizard are immune toward the most commoly used ground type attack in competitive games , earthquake . It just my opinion though , cause though even though all the starter appeal to me with their appearence . Among all the fire starter , Typhlosion are least used by me . Among the water starter , Blastoise . Feraligator can use STAB to boost it water attack .

Hoeun starter have better variety in movepool and can learn many different type of TMs .
 
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