Substitude breakers

[boLd NinJa{Koga's Son}]

wich attacks break subs?

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[Magma Leader Maxie]

Let's see... Sand Attack, Growl, Leer, Splash... XD

All of them. Except the ones that do no damage. And you can't break subtitutes with status-inducing moves (which you might be able to "logically" deduce: Can I poison a doll/image/statue?)

Is this really being asked? Or am I imagining things? *goes to get some fresh air*

 

[boLd NinJa{Koga's Son}]

U missunderstood... I know what Substitude does and its effects....... but there are attacks that break the sub immeadiatley(sp?)....I know one attack that does that and its ROCK BLAST...are there any others?

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[~*Myuu the Ryuu*~]

fury swipes, double slap, all those attacks that have low power, but they attack 2-5 times in one turn. also bonmerang. this is a really good sub breaker.

 

[boLd NinJa{Koga's Son}]

just these..okay...thank you!

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[Fiery Blaziken]

Or double kick. It can break a sub and do some damage to the enemy.

 

[Magma Leader Maxie]

U missunderstood... I know what Substitude does and its effects....... but there are attacks that break the sub immeadiatley

You should have said so, then I would have given the impression of a lesser idiot, if you know what I mean. And the move I use is Rock Blast, since Armaldo learns it, but any move like it will do. And if the opposing substituter is Mr.Mime, how about Beat Up? It's a dark type, so it's a guaranteed win.

 

[boLd NinJa{Koga's Son}]

Does Beat Up really work? coz I think I used it once and it didn't broke.....

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[Kveran]

I should think Beat Up would work, but I've only seen it used once since I don't exactly make a habit of fighting Sneasels. (I saw it in a Clefairy's Metronome.)

 

[SealElement]

just these..okay...thank you!

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Ice ball, essentially an Ice type Rock blast. Nothing else comes to mind.

 

[Volteon]

Does Beat Up really work? coz I think I used it once and it didn't broke.....

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all the attacks that deal damage break substitute, when you use substitute you lost 1/4 HP when the opponent deals 1/4 or more HP the substitiue breaks.
like you use sub. then you lose 100 HP (your current HP is now 300)
the opponent uses an attack that takes off 75 HP (your current HP still 300)
then you attack normally and the opponent uses the same attack that takes off 75, your substitute breaks and you still with 300 HP

so instead of you lost 150 HP you lose just 100.

let´s say that you use fury swimps
opponent uses sub and take off 50 of his HP
you use Fswimps.
hit once (lost 20) hits twice (lost +20) hits 3 times (lost +20) substitute breaks, hit 4 times (lost +20HP) hits 5 times (lost +20HP)

so the opponent lost 90HP, because that the multiple attacks works better than the usual.

the same works with beat up, but you didn´t dealt HP enough to complete 1/4.
but there are no attacks that breaks imediately.

 

[~*Myuu the Ryuu*~]

but there are no attacks that breaks imediately.

what about OHKO attacks? i thought those would work...

 

[SPN]

I've never tried, but I don't think OHKO's would work...they might...but maybe not. Mainly because they don't have a set damage, but on the other hand, they do spell death for anyone who it actually hits.

 

[~-=Mewtwo=-~]

Ice ball, essentially an Ice type Rock blast. Nothing else comes to mind.

God so noobish... Ice Ball is an ice type ROLLOUT...

And yea no instant sub breakers... but to prevent a focus punch double attackers like bonemerang...

 

[Volteon]

I don´t know if KO attacks breaks substitute, probably no, but I´ll try that ASAP.

 

[leafgreen386]

They just fail.

I've yet to confirm if Beat Up does damage each time a poke attacks, or if it's a lump sum of damage. If it's the latter, then you won't stop a foe's Focus Punch by using it on their Sub.

 

[Mr. Bikini fan]

You all just stop it, the easiet way just find the pokemons disadvantage!!!
Like machockes weakness is pshychic flying so use these move to destroy the decoy.

 

[~-=Mewtwo=-~]

You all just stop it, the easiet way just find the pokemons disadvantage!!!
Like machockes weakness is pshychic flying so use these move to destroy the decoy.

But we're not talking about how to destroy it... we're talking about destroying it and pulling damage to stop Sub-Flail/Reversalers and SubPunchers...