Suicune

[Mudkip of DVN]

After hearing so much about Suicune, I decided to get one myself. The only one I had access to was Venus's so nature and IV's were at no control. Fortunately, it was rated "Wonderfully Outstanding" in Emerald.

Here is my planned setup:

SUICUNE @ ???
Gentle
Calm Mind
Surf
Ice Beam
Rain Dance or Mirror Coat?

 

[Dimentio]

hello G'eye to respond, i say mirror coat, unfortunate what happened in your sig bout the gulpin

 

[aipomkong]

more like Rest > Mirror Coat and Rain Dance

 

[Delta]

Roar works as well

 

[Mudkip of DVN]

Roar? No....... BTW, who the heck suggested that Shedinja?

 

[Delta]

Roar? No....... BTW, who the heck suggested that Shedinja?

Suicune can work as a Pseudohazer (If you know what is mean)

 

[Mudkip of DVN]

Yes, I know what a Pseudohazer is, I'm a person who studies uber combos... however, I don't think that Roar would be good enough alone, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING it always goes last. MC goes last, but when appropriately used, devastates your enemy in one go. (i.e. Sceptile) A Psych-up-per would be a better pseudohazer.

 

[Delta]

If you are facing regice, or anyone else whos uses Psych up or snatch, suicune is useless. That´s why roar works

 

[aipomkong]

Yes, I know what a Pseudohazer is, I'm a person who studies uber combos... however, I don't think that Roar would be good enough alone, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING it always goes last. MC goes last, but when appropriately used, devastates your enemy in one go. (i.e. Sceptile) A Psych-up-per would be a better pseudohazer.

how is psych up a p-haze move?

P-hazing involves the opponent losing all their stat-ups by means other then haze

roar/whirlwind/perish song/switching milotic into a salamence with 1 dragon dance

they are types of phazing, psych up isn't

 

[Mudkip of DVN]

Psych-up gives you their advantage, then you blast them back into their Pokeball. I meant when used in conjunction with Roar, WWind, etc.

 

[Delta]

Psych-up gives you their advantage, then you blast them back into their Pokeball. I meant when used in conjunction with Roar, WWind, etc.

Adn can you give us an example of a moveset that includes Roar/Psych up adn works properly?

 

[aipomkong]

not really

solrock used psych-up, suicune lol'd
steelix used psych-up, suicune lol'd
regice used psych-up. suicune used critical hit, or lol'd at regice as it still can't touch it and it ROARs it out

when psych up goes wrong

 

[Mudkip of DVN]

-PREFERABLY you will have a Gorebyss, Espeon, Umbreon, or some other GOOD Baton Passer.

-Then, after you've Baton passed, you can switch to Stantler, or whatever, that can Psych-up/Snatch and Roar, Toxic, or whatever, etc. This is so you have upped stats from Baton Pass, will be able to steal your opponent's stats, then poison as many Pokemon as you can. I'd pair this with a Spiker in 2-vs.-2

 

[Delta]

Gorebyss adn Espeon can´t take a hit. Imagine them using Psych-up AND Bp. They just won´t resist. Umbreon is the only one left, but it isn´reliable without the toxic-mean look moveset

 

[aipomkong]

who actually uses gorebyss and stantler outside of uu

btw Fierrus, gorebyss can take a hit as it has iron defence and amnesia on it's standard set, which will just be bp'd anyway

 

[Dj Skee]

ice beam
mirror coat .. (when u face a thunder pokemon and they thunder u .. 1 hit ko)
surf
and good move

 

[Mudkip of DVN]

Hm? Obviously you can't read. I said any GOOD BATON PASSER, then switch to anything LIKE STANTLER THAT CAN LEARN those moves. And how can Umbreon NOT take a hit? Its only good stats pretty much are Defense and Sp. Defense, Gorebyss's 2nd best stat is Defense, plus it can learn I.D., and Amnesia.

 

[aipomkong]

mirror coat is still worse then rest, and calm mind suicune without rest is generally pointless as you will just get heracross'd to death as you can't rest it's damage off while CM'ing before you have to rest

EDIT: psych up is WAY too situational to be considered a better option then Roar

it's as situational as using hp flying on heracross for other heracross' which in the end is stupid and pointless

 

[Delta]

who actually uses gorebyss and stantler outside of uu

btw Fierrus, gorebyss can take a hit as it has iron defence and amnesia on it's standard set, which will just be bp'd anyway

Yeah, right. I confused it with Huntail, BTW Gorebyss sucks outside UU, so don´t use it. Adn by the way, who suggested Mirror coat?! Don´t t you realized that´s a ****ing move that doesn´t work?

 

[Fluorescent Adolescent]

Yeah, right. I confused it with Huntail, BTW Gorebyss sucks outside UU, so don´t use it. Adn by the way, who suggested Mirror coat?! Don´t t you realized that´s a ****ing move that doesn´t work?

Actually it does work. Please know what you're talking about before judging a move. It does and can work. It just depends what you want from it.