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Sun & Moon Pokémon Speculation Thread

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I agree, for the most part. I can see Mallow and Sophocles each getting one more Pokémon, and I don't think Lana will get a third Pokémon. I can see Kiawe maybe getting an Alolan Marowak (since it's so associated with him in the game). Lillie, on the other hand, probably won't get another Pokémon--not until she has completely conquered her fear of touching Pokémon (which I don't expect to happen until much later in the series). She will probably end up being Cosmog's caretaker, and she will probably become attached to it, but it won't be her Pokémon.
Regarding this, I'll say that I can't see Mallow, Lana and Sophocles getting new Pokemon- I could be wrong, though. But the reason I think this is because of their goals- Lana's Bubble dream, Mallow's cooking goal, Sophocles probably doesn't have any. Plus, with Ash and Lillie seemingly getting more focus, these three+Kiawe will probably get less focus. With Kiawe specialising in battling, I can see him getting an Alolan Marowak. Regarding Lillie, I can definitely see her with a Cosmog(most probably befriended), during the Aether Foundation arc. That's all I have to say in this regard.
 
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esquilo09

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And if they do the Sinnoh BF, I can see Ash getting a Sinnoh Pokemon. And evolving Gible. Which Sinnoh Pokemon? Hm.... dunno. Depends on if gen 8 is going to add any evolutions, though hopefully not another Ambipom situation if it stays with him to the next saga. I'd love to see a Lucario join him though, or maybe that Hippopatos from way back in DP
I don't think Ash will catch a Sinnoh Pokémon to promote a remake unless one has a 7th gen evo in Stars, but it's possible for Gible to evolve during a league.
 

johno1995

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I'm hoping that Ash's Rockruff gains some interesting moves while it's around.

A final movepool of Stone Edge (Accelerock) / Rock Climb / Thunder Fang / Snarl would be interesting. Snarl would give it a special move for some additional strategy as well as fitting it being a dog Pokemon, while Thunder Fang would give Ash another Pokemon with access to an Electric type move, while I think Stone Edge would be a natural progression for its Rock-type moves to get better as it grows. Accelerock would obviously take its place if Rockruff becomes Midday form... Rock Climb would be cool to see on a smaller, speedier Pokemon and I think would make good use of Breakneck Blitz.
 
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Satomine Night

The Power of Z!
Regarding this, I'll say that I can't see Mallow, Lana and Sophocles getting Pokemon- I could be wrong, though. But the reason I think this is because of their goals- Lana's Bubble dream, Mallow's cooking goal, Sophocles probably doesn't have any. Plus, with Ash and Lillie seemingly getting more focus, these three+Kiawe will probably get less focus. With Kiawe specialising in battling, I can see him getting an Alolan Marowak. Regarding Lillie, I can definitely see her with a Cosmog(most probably befriended), during the Aether Foundation arc. That's all I have to say in this regard.
Lana's, Mallow's, and Sophocles's goals (whatever Sophocles's goal is) do not stop them from catching new Pokémon. They could befriend new Pokémon, or they could rescue a Pokémon who is in trouble, the way Lana rescued Popplio from Team Skull and decided to make it her partner so it wouldn't fear humans. I don't really want to bring previous series into this, but Tracey caught Scyther because it was injured and he wanted to help it, and his career (Pokémon Watcher) didn't necessitate adding new Pokémon to his team. So, a character's goal does not necessarily dictate whether or not he/she will catch new Pokémon.

Ash and Lillie getting more focus than the others means just that--they will get more focus than the others. Sure, Ash's Pokémon and Shiron will probably get more development than Bounsweet, Popplio, Togedemaru, or Turtonator, but that doesn't stop Kiawe, Lana, Mallow, or Sophocles from getting new Pokémon.
 

RileyXY1

Young Battle Trainer
Ash had pokemon like Krokorok and Gliscor.I don't see how Incineroar is so different than both of them appearance wise that Ash can't have one.

Anyway Ash is gonna get Litten anyway.There is no way the writers would have one of the starters not on the main crew and it would have been a waste of time to develop said Litten with Ash(and eventually Rowlet/Popplio) if it was not gonna join the main team.
They can have Litten go to someone else, like Kiawe. I just associate the Litten family with evil people because they are heel wrestlers. Gliscor isn't anything remotely close to that and Krookodile barely knows any Dark-type moves. It wasn't even used as a Dark-type.
 

Satomine Night

The Power of Z!
They can have Litten go to someone else, like Kiawe.
I'm pretty sure it's safe to say at this point that Ash is getting Litten, eventually. The writers have built the foundation for a relationship development arc between the two of them, and as others have pointed out, Ash is the only character who has interacted with Litten. The only other person I can see getting Litten aside from Ash is that elderly lady who owns the fruit stall in the marketplace, since she seems to be so fond of the kitten and likes to believe that it's checking up on her, when it's really just using her as a source of easily-acquirable food. :p
 

Mr. Guy

Banned
They can have Litten go to someone else, like Kiawe. I just associate the Litten family with evil people because they are heel wrestlers. Gliscor isn't anything remotely close to that and Krookodile barely knows any Dark-type moves. It wasn't even used as a Dark-type.
Incineroar isn't actually "evil" though.

As stated by its profile on the official website:

If a crowd watching it battle is pumped up, Incineroar’s fighting spirit will burn brighter. But a lackluster crowd can make it lose focus or fight shoddily. When it receives the admiration of young Pokémon and children, it may keep up its cold attitude on the outside, but in its heart of hearts, Incineroar is immensely happy. It loses the desire to fight when faced with a Pokémon that’s clearly weak or injured, and it sometimes gets taken advantage of as a result.
Just like a real-life heel wrestler, it's all just an act it puts on for the show.
 

ShadowForce720

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For extra development factor, they can just give Litten to Lillie.
It feels like your still missing the point, the point is right now that Ash is literally the only main character who has interacted and boned with Litten, so it wouldn't make any sense at this point if Litten went to any of the other main characters because it would then make episode 7 pretty much pointless as what would be the point in building up the relationship between Ash and Litten if Litten was just going to get caught by one of the other main characters.

Look if Kiawe, Lillie, or any of the others had boned with Litten during episode 7 then in that case it would make sense for them to get it, however that's not what happened, what happened was out of the main characters Ash was pretty much the only one to interact and bond with Litten.
 
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RileyXY1

Young Battle Trainer
It feels like your still missing the point, the point is right now that Ash is literally the only main character who has interacted and boned with Litten, so it wouldn't make any sense at this point if Litten went to any of the other main characters because it would then make episode 7 pretty much pointless as what would be the point in building up the relationship between Ash and Litten if Litten was just going to get caught by one of the other main characters.

Look if Kiawe, Lillie, or any of the others had boned with Litten during episode 7 then in that case it would make sense for them to get it, however that's not what happened, what happened was out of the main characters Ash was pretty much the only one to interact and bond with Litten.
Just because Ash bonds with a Pokemon does not mean he has to catch it.
 

Janovy

Banned
Just because Ash bonds with a Pokemon does not mean he has to catch it.
You're right if the Pokemon we're talking about appears once and never again, like a Hippopotas in DP.

But the fact Litten is recurring and that Ash already tried to catch it means it will eventually go to Ash.
 

RileyXY1

Young Battle Trainer
You're right if the Pokemon we're talking about appears once and never again, like a Hippopotas in DP.

But the fact Litten is recurring and that Ash already tried to catch it means it will eventually go to Ash.
It does not. You're relying on expectations that can easily be broken.
 

KingMinun

Dawn/Sinnoh Fan!
You're right if the Pokemon we're talking about appears once and never again, like a Hippopotas in DP.

But the fact Litten is recurring and that Ash already tried to catch it means it will eventually go to Ash.
I do agree with this, but then actually thinking back to Jigglypuff, Misty tried to catch it, and interacted with it for the many seasons afterwards, yet never caught it. But your statement applies in a number of scenarios, like Aipom, Sandile, etc.
 

ShadowForce720

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It does not. You're relying on expectations that can easily be broken.
Except none of the other main characters have interacted with Litten, so it wouldn't make any sense for it to go to any other main character besides Ash, if Litten doesn't go to Ash then it would more then likely either not get caught at all or wind up with that woman that has been giving it food, either way it's kind of obvious that a arc is planned for Litten with how much focus it gets and that it got it's own focus episode and the fact that there was some foreshadowing with Stoutland that it might die at some point.

Whether or not you like for Litten to go to Ash or some one else on the main cast doesn't mean that somehow it's not likely for Ash to get Litten, because no matter how you try to slice this if Litten is going to wind up being caught by a Main character, the only one that would make sense for Litten to go to is Ash.
 

ShadowForce720

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Patterns can always be broken, you know.
Yes, but in this case you don't really have any good reasons why Ash won't get Litten other then you just don't want him to have it because you think Incineroar looks evil, which when you get down to it that's not much of an argument, since you don't really have any actual hints that would suggest that Ash wouldn't get Litten where on the other side of the argument the people that are saying Ash will likely get Litten or probably get it have actual hints that would suggest that Ash will probably get it.
 

johno1995

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Patterns can always be broken, you know.
The three most marketable Pokémon of a generation won't be on the main cast... the faces of each generation per say... that makes sense.

Certain things are patterns (the water "curse", Ash and the birds). The starters being on the main cast isn't a pattern, it just makes sense.
 

Locormus

Can we please get the older, old forum back?
Patterns can always be broken, you know.
This nonsense again.. When has a starter not been on the main cast? Never. The reason is marketing, which is the sole reason why the anime exists in the first place. Most marketable pokemon + main character isn't as much a "pattern" as it is a business decision.

They can also let Alolan Persian murder Litten and give a different Litten to a new character. Is this likelier than Ash getting the Litten we've been seeing him specifically bond with? No. So stop denying the obvious setup (even more then for Rockruff, which is confirmed) and get with the program.. not everything needs to stay open for debate when the answer is this obvious.
 
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