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Sun & Moon Pokémon Speculation Thread

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Zoruagible

Lover of underrated characters
Wait.... Steenee's female only? They finally did what they should have done to Gothitelle?!

@nickdt You forgot about Fairy in the type listing for Ash that he has not gotten yet.

But I do agree that hopefully Ash will atleast get his first Ghost-type this region via Rowlet evolving all the way into Decidueye though then he would just need a pokemon for the following...

-Psychic type
-Steel type
-Fairy type
-Genderless
-Female only
-Legendary or Mythical
-Has not Mega Evolved any pokemon

The thing about female only Pokemon is that none of them so far are exactly Ash material.
And most genderless Pokemon would be boring to portray him with or clash with Pikachu. Voltorb, Magnemite..... Minior would be cool, but Rockruff is better. And Minior would look cool under James' care.
 

RedJirachi

Veteran member
If Ash is getting a Water Pokemon, which do you guys want?
 

Golden_Latias

#SlayQueenSlay
If Ash is getting a Water Pokemon, which do you guys want?
I want Golisopod but expect Dewpider. If Ash gets a Water type, of course.
 

Rock Captain 99

Following the dreams!!
If you had asked me that a few weeks ago, I would have said Mareenie, but since thats no longer an option, I'd definitely say wishiwashi

I don't think he will get wishiwashi due to its mobility issues on land. I expect him to get dewpider.
 

Zoruagible

Lover of underrated characters
If Ash is getting a Water Pokemon, which do you guys want?

Wimpod. It's the only one that suits him. And would be fun to see him deal with.
Araquanid should go to Lana. Wishiwashi and Bruxish are automatically out. Pyumuku is literally useless.
And even if Sinnoh Pokemon are on the table, as cool as it would be to see Ash with Empoleon. I doubt the writers would ever evolve the cash cow known as Piplup if it ever ended up on the cast again.
 

World Turtle

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I have literally never seen anyone say that Growlithe or Houndour suit Ash...

I don't think they do personally probably necauae i always associate Growlithe more with Officer Jenny. And Houndour looks too evil IMO.

So does Krookodile, Glalie, Gliscor, etc.

People saying Houndour suits Ash or wanted him to catch it was common back in the day. The reason was because of the "Hour of the Houndour" episode way back in OS (early Johto). Given that was years ago it doesn't come up much these days.
 
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ShadowForce720

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Do you think Ash will get Grubbin, yes/no?



Well if the all-seeing, all-knowing Golden_Latias hasn't seen it, then it can't possibly be true...

Yes I still think Ash could get a Grubbin. Now will Ash get a Grubbin? will just have to wait and see at this point.


Wimpod. It's the only one that suits him. And would be fun to see him deal with.
Araquanid should go to Lana. Wishiwashi and Bruxish are automatically out. Pyumuku is literally useless.
And even if Sinnoh Pokemon are on the table, as cool as it would be to see Ash with Empoleon. I doubt the writers would ever evolve the cash cow known as Piplup if it ever ended up on the cast again.

I have to disagree because while it is true that Piplup is a cash cow the problem is we already had a whole region where a Piplup that was on the main cast stayed a Piplup the entire time, if they gave Ash a Piplup they would need to evolve it because no matter how popular Piplup is Ash's Piplup's popularity would quickly drop if people started to feel like Ash's Piplup was just a carbon copy of Dawn's Piplup. That would be in the scenario where Ash did get a Piplup.
 
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Rock Captain 99

Following the dreams!!
Yes I still think Ash could get a Grubbin. Now will Ash get a Grubbin? will just have to wait and see at this point.




I have to disagree because while it is true that Piplup is a cash cow the problem is we already had a whole region where a Piplup that was on the main cast stayed a Piplup the entire time, if they gave Ash a Piplup they would need to evolve it because no matter how popular Piplup is Ash's Piplup's popularity would quickly drop if people started to feel like Ash's Piplup was just a carbon copy of Dawn's Piplup. That would be in the scenario where Ash did get a Piplup.

Well... i don't think ash will get a sinnoh pokemon at all. If they really need to promote gen IV pokemon, then better his companions get them!!
 

ShadowForce720

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Well... i don't think ash will get a sinnoh pokemon at all. If they really need to promote gen IV pokemon, then better his companions get them!!

When you get right down to it there is literally nothing stopping the writers from giving him a Sinnoh pokemon if it's promoting D&P remakes. Sure some people try to say that oh Ash will only catch pokemon of the current generation to promote current generation and that the writers would only give pokemon that advertise the remakes to rivals or companions, however in all reality it doesn't matter if some people think that it would be better for the companions to be the ones to promote the remakes, as really it's up to the writers to decide who will promote the remakes, so if they decide Ash will get one gen IV pokemon on his team then he will regardless of what anyone thinks.

Also keep in mind that the writers have been pretty unpredictable in Sun and Moon so if we do get D&P remakes then you can't just assume that it's safe to say that Ash won't get a gen IV pokemon, as they might decide to give him one since so many people seem to think they won't give him one, of course this is all if we get D&P remakes this gen, which at this point we don't really know if where getting D&P remakes this gen or not. Also keep in mind that since they have already had cases where a companion or rival had pokemon that advertise the current remakes, it would be pretty predictable if a rival or companion this gen got the pokemon that advertise the D&P remakes.

So when you get down to it considering how unpredictable the writers are being this generation, they could easily give Ash a gen IV pokemon to advertise the D&P remakes which most people here are honestly not expecting.
 
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MattySadler

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If Ash is getting a Water Pokemon, which do you guys want?

I honestly don't think he'll get one. I don't think any of the Alolan Water-types suit him.
 
So does Krookodile, Glalie, Gliscor, etc.

People saying Houndour suits Ash or wanted him to catch it was common back in the day. The reason was because of the "Hour of the Houndour" episode way back in OS (early Johto). Given that was years ago it doesn't come up much these days.

Yes I was one of those people. I was so pissed off when Ash didn't get one of them at the end of the episode. Somehow that leader Houndour suited Ash just right. Maybe the dark typing was a problem back then or they didn't like the idea of a second fire type.

Also there were people who wanted Ash to get a Growlithe after that Ponyta-> Rapidash episode where Ash tried to catch one.
 

DavidD001

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Well looking at all the new Water-types in the Alola region....

-Popplio line...Lana owns a Popplio so its doubtful that Ash will get anything of this line.
-Wishiwashi....its a fish and would be difficult to handle it on land.
-Mareanie line...James owns a Mareanie so thats another line that won't make it to Ash's roster.
-Dewpider line....I could see this being caught by Ash since Dewpider can survive on land and it would also give Ash a new Bug-type.
-Wimpod line...we all know that Guzma is likely to appear and show off his Golisopod and Ash doesnt really do pokemon of the evil team's boss.
-Pyukumuku...no offensive skills at all...basically a water version of Wobbuffet in a way and its not Ash's style.
-Silvally [Water Memory]...yea its pretty much a given that Ash isnt getting this as Gladion is very very likely to appear and show off Type:Null/Silvally.
-Bruxish...same issue as Wishiwashi.
-Tapu Fini...legendary pokemon are just out of Ash's grasp unless the writers throw us a curve ball and let Ash capture a legendary.

so Dewpider/Araquanid is basically the best bet for a Water-type for Ash in this region and also its decently speedy.
 

Rock Captain 99

Following the dreams!!
When you get right down to it there is literally nothing stopping the writers from giving him a Sinnoh pokemon if it's promoting D&P remakes. Sure some people try to say that oh Ash will only catch pokemon of the current generation to promote current generation and that the writers would only give pokemon that advertise the remakes to rivals or companions, however in all reality it doesn't matter if some people think that it would be better for the companions to be the ones to promote the remakes, as really it's up to the writers to decide who will promote the remakes, so if they decide Ash will get one gen IV pokemon on his team then he will regardless of what anyone thinks.

Also keep in mind that the writers have been pretty unpredictable in Sun and Moon so if we do get D&P remakes then you can't just assume that it's safe to say that Ash won't get a gen IV pokemon, as they might decide to give him one since so many people seem to think they won't give him one, of course this is all if we get D&P remakes this gen, which at this point we don't really know if where getting D&P remakes this gen or not. Also keep in mind that since they have already had cases where a companion or rival had pokemon that advertise the current remakes, it would be pretty predictable if a rival or companion this gen got the pokemon that advertise the D&P remakes.

So when you get down to it considering how unpredictable the writers are being this generation, they could easily give Ash a gen IV pokemon to advertise the D&P remakes which most people here are honestly not expecting.

I agree with you that ash can get a Gen IV pokemon if writers want to. But at this point of time we can make some predictions as to what can happen and what not in the anime.

People say writers are unpredictable in sun and moon. They should remember that writers have always been unpredictable. They have always tried to show something new since AG. This is not something exclusive in sun and moon. Take for instance, writers didn't gave ash all the three starters which was unpredictable back then. In DP, he got two starters, which again was something new. He also got a pseudo- legendary officially. They gave him more than 6 pokemon to ash in BW, new again. A gym battle with uneven number of pokemon on both sides, it used to happen in games but was new for anime. And ash losing to cameron in a 5vs6 battle, that too was unpredictable. Don't forget they skipped grass type in XY. And many other similar instances can be given.

But even if they are unpredictable, there are some things we can always be sure of i.e. we can say that its safe to say that this will happen. Like if ash travelling to a new region, its safe to say that he will have a full team by end. Another instance, if the new region requires a character to win eight badges before entering a league, then ash would win those eight badges and will compete in league i.e. writers won't make ash unable to get 8 gym badges and therefore, cannot compete in the league.

Similarly, i believe it will be safe to say that ash's full team in a new region would consist of only the new pokemon and not the old ones. I think the same is for team rocket. They too should not get the previous generation pokemon. Logic is, they don't give old generation pokemon to characters that have already visited that region earlier. For instance, in AG, it was may who got bulbasaur and squirtle and not brock or ash. Similarly, in sinnoh, dawn got cindaquil, again neither ash nor brock.

If they really want to promote Gen IV pokemon, then there are other ways to do that. Like companions and rivals. If they want to involve ash in the promotion, they can make him use his reserves like gible and other sinnoh pokemon in some kind on battle tournament and other similar arcs. Nothing more than that.

But still, writers are unpredictable and can do anything that can break someone's predictions in seconds...
 
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Ash-Greninja4life

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Simple explanation for this is that Ash already has Bulbasaur, Squirtle and Quilava. But yeah I know where your coming from, your right, especially for the main part of the story it should all just be the new Alolan Pokémon's to shine, but say Ash happens to bring back Gible at some point later on and it evolves into Gabite, that's some marketing for DP remakes. Garchomp was one of the fan faves of the region after all or seeing Ash's Infernape again would be kind of special
 

Luthor

Well-Known Member
I think Rockruff will later be revealed to have tackle or something similar as one of it's other moves. It'll need something so it can use a z-move and tackle will cover that until Ash gets more z-crystals.
 

RileyXY1

Young Battle Trainer
If Ash does get Litten, when do you want him to catch it? I don't want its capture (if he does catch it) to be dragged out for long.
 

Golden_Latias

#SlayQueenSlay
If Ash does get Litten, when do you want him to catch it? I don't want its capture (if he does catch it) to be dragged out for long.
Sometime before his second trial, which I"m expecting to be around SM25-30.
 
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