Frozocrone
Miraculous!
Marshadow has apparently been in Ash's shadow
s*** he's the chosen one again
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Sun & Moon Pokémon Speculation Thread
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Golden_Latias
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That shouldn't matter. Torterra and Infernape being in M10 didn't stop Ash from getting them, and Greninja being in M17 didn't stop Froakie from evolving.
The anime has had the starters' final evos appear in the first movie of each region since DP.
It doesn't mean anything. Especially since Cross will most likely never appear outside of this movie.
So, I haven't been around in a while. Haven't seen any SM episodes yet (I will), and I couldn't find the Movie thread (the one I found was closed) but...
Can someone explain to me what the * is that trailer supposed to mean? I thought Movie 20 was a remake of Ash's firsts steps as a trainer.
Why are there pokemon from other regions (Piplup, Incineroar, etc) and why does he have 2 new partners that never existed?
Just what in the world is happening? Please tell me it's not a total reboot
Can someone explain to me what the * is that trailer supposed to mean? I thought Movie 20 was a remake of Ash's firsts steps as a trainer.
Why are there pokemon from other regions (Piplup, Incineroar, etc) and why does he have 2 new partners that never existed?
Just what in the world is happening? Please tell me it's not a total reboot
Zoruagible
Lover of underrated characters
Damn it, not even in an alternate universe can Ash get a Lucario. UGH!
Also, Piplup is there too so DP remakes confirmed
Exactly.
Exactly.
XXD17
Draco rex
The leaked art suggests that incineroar for Ash is most likely going to be a thing...
Red and Blue
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So what do you guys think of the two new trainers traveling with AU Ash?
Don't know where else to discuss this since the movie thread is closed for some reason.
Don't know where else to discuss this since the movie thread is closed for some reason.
i2i
Big Bad Wolf
But Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina are connected with each other lore wise so it make sense for all of them to appear in the movies that involved any of them.
or because their well known Pokemon.
Oh, that's a relief. So it's an alternate universe. It doesn't affect the series canon. Phew.
If that's the case, then I'm all for a new story. Kinda sad that Brock got replaced by a random guy, Misty got replaced by Dawn's clone and Gary got shifted for the Incineroar guy, but what can we do, alternate universe it is.
Maybe Ash can win the league in this universe?... No? is that too much to change? Oh well
If that's the case, then I'm all for a new story. Kinda sad that Brock got replaced by a random guy, Misty got replaced by Dawn's clone and Gary got shifted for the Incineroar guy, but what can we do, alternate universe it is.
Maybe Ash can win the league in this universe?... No? is that too much to change? Oh well
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Golden_Latias
#SlayQueenSlay
Come to think of it, the official Pokemon Center plushes for the starter final evolutions were revealed earlier today. Wonder if they were revealed because of the movie.
I'm sorry if you're a Decidueye fan
345ash-greninja
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Why so? By the way, I am a Decidueye fan, but Litten in SM so far has really touched me.
Rock Captain 99
Following the dreams!!
Don't know about decidueye or incineroar but i want to see popplio fully evolving into primarina.
Golden_Latias
#SlayQueenSlay
Because Decidueye's plush looks absolutely horrid?
345ash-greninja
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Honestly, Rowlet and Litten have more of a chance of evolving than Popplio. Popplio might not evolve because of Lana's bubble dream and Primarina not being suited as a travelling Pokemon.
I see. But I don't think that can be a reason.
Spyro39
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Why? Just because Popplio's not going to battle as much as Rowlet and Litten? If anything, it would be essential for Popplio to evolve to Primarina, so it can use its signature Z-move Oceanic Operetta to blow their biggest bubble ever.
345ash-greninja
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Do you really think, that Lana, who seemingly isn't efficient in battling, will get a Z-crystal? And as I said above, Primarina doesn't suit much as a travelling Pokemon.
Golden_Latias
#SlayQueenSlay
I've already brought up other reasons in the past for why Popplio could evolve, and I know you've seen it already. I'll repost it again, though.
1. The fact that it knows Bubble Beam, a move that Popplio doesn't even learn until its level is in the 20's, suggests that it has to have some battle experience. Remember, they don't just give starters higher level moves from the get-go for no reason anymore.
2. We know Popplio is progressing in its goal from SM16 and SM17. Heck, Pikachu is swimming in one of Popplio's bubbles in the preview for SM22. Pretty much all that's left for Lana's goal is to train Popplio to make bubbles that can consistently support a human, and she's pretty much set. There is no way the writers are going to drag that out for the rest of the series, so there's a pretty good chance Lana will expand on her goal a little bit. And who knows? That could mean evolution is necessary.
3. And here's a pretty good reason: Brionne and Primarina are capable of controlling the movements of their bubbles. Popplio cannot. I would think that would be helpful for Lana's dream, lest Popplio helplessly watch the Trainer that saved it from Team Skull drift away to her death somehow.
EDIT: And, hell, I'll throw in one more reason.
4. Primarina has to debut in the anime somehow. Given the structure of the series, I'm starting to believe Ash either isn't going to have a rival or it's going to be Tapu Koko or Gladion or whatever (and Gladion sure as hell isn't going to debut Primarina). And while it's not the fan favorite starter like Decidueye, Primarina is still a very popular Pokemon, so I don't see the writers just throwing it into a filler episode and calling it a day. So if Lana isn't going to debut Primarina, and the two obvious options are out, how is Primarina going to debut in the anime?
1. The fact that it knows Bubble Beam, a move that Popplio doesn't even learn until its level is in the 20's, suggests that it has to have some battle experience. Remember, they don't just give starters higher level moves from the get-go for no reason anymore.
2. We know Popplio is progressing in its goal from SM16 and SM17. Heck, Pikachu is swimming in one of Popplio's bubbles in the preview for SM22. Pretty much all that's left for Lana's goal is to train Popplio to make bubbles that can consistently support a human, and she's pretty much set. There is no way the writers are going to drag that out for the rest of the series, so there's a pretty good chance Lana will expand on her goal a little bit. And who knows? That could mean evolution is necessary.
3. And here's a pretty good reason: Brionne and Primarina are capable of controlling the movements of their bubbles. Popplio cannot. I would think that would be helpful for Lana's dream, lest Popplio helplessly watch the Trainer that saved it from Team Skull drift away to her death somehow.
EDIT: And, hell, I'll throw in one more reason.
4. Primarina has to debut in the anime somehow. Given the structure of the series, I'm starting to believe Ash either isn't going to have a rival or it's going to be Tapu Koko or Gladion or whatever (and Gladion sure as hell isn't going to debut Primarina). And while it's not the fan favorite starter like Decidueye, Primarina is still a very popular Pokemon, so I don't see the writers just throwing it into a filler episode and calling it a day. So if Lana isn't going to debut Primarina, and the two obvious options are out, how is Primarina going to debut in the anime?
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345ash-greninja
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Yeah, but Popplio fully evolving into Primarina and not learning its signature Z-move Oceanic Operetta would be ridiculous. As Lana isn't seemingly efficient in battling, it's very unlikely that she will a Z-crystal. So, for this reason, I think that a rival debuting Primarina would be better.
Spyro39
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Like Golden_Latias said, Lana's Popplio has already shown to be an efficient battler, with or without Lana. Besides, even if Popplio wasn't good at battling, I'm sure the anime is going to find a way to show that you don't need to be an efficient battler to use a Z-crystal. I don't think the games have explained that you need to be a powerful battler to use Z-moves. It's more about being in sync with your Pokemon as shown with Ash and Kiawe.
Golden_Latias
#SlayQueenSlay
On top of that, Lana's whole "thing" seems to be that she shares a particularly strong bond with her Popplio. Unlike Mallow and Steenee or Sophocles and Togedemaru or, hell, even Kiawe and Turtonator, they actually have history together. IIRC, Mallow mentioned she met Bounsweet in the forest, I don't recall if we learned about how Sophocles met Togedemaru, and I know we don't know anything about how Kiawe met Turtonator. In contrast, we know Lana saved Popplio from Team Skull and bonded with it so it wouldn't be afraid of people, and she's extremely protective of the sea pupper. The two share in the same goal and work toward it. It's obvious their bond is extremely strong, arguably even moreso than any of Ash's other classmates and their Pokemon.
Since a strong bond matters with Z-Moves, I don't see why Lana and Popplio couldn't pull it off
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