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Sun & Moon Pokémon Speculation Thread

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SlimKennedy

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I feel like Litten will be evolving very soon. Thus far, Tapu Koko has gifted Ash a Z-Ring and an Electrium-Z. Tapu Lele has enabled Rockruff to evolve into an exclusive new form. One can only assume that this will become a pattern, and that both Tapu Bulu and Tapu Fini will be also be bestowing gifts unto Ash. The only other thing I can really see them giving him are exclusive Z-Crystals. As he already possesses Electrium-Z for Pikachu, Grassium-Z for Rowlet, and Rockium-Z for Lycanroc, Litten is the only one left without his own unique thing.

I feel like he'll be evolving into Torracat at the beginning of the Ula'Ula arc. Near the end of the arc he will evolve again into Incineroar, after which Tapu Bulu will give him the Incinium-Z. I don't particularly care for Incineroar, but Litten really does need something. What do you think? Does it sound plausible?
 

Spyro39

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I feel like Litten will be evolving very soon. Thus far, Tapu Koko has gifted Ash a Z-Ring and an Electrium-Z. Tapu Lele has enabled Rockruff to evolve into an exclusive new form. One can only assume that this will become a pattern, and that both Tapu Bulu and Tapu Fini will be also be bestowing gifts unto Ash. The only other thing I can really see them giving him are exclusive Z-Crystals. As he already possesses Electrium-Z for Pikachu, Grassium-Z for Rowlet, and Rockium-Z for Lycanroc, Litten is the only one left without his own unique thing.

I feel like he'll be evolving into Torracat at the beginning of the Ula'Ula arc. Near the end of the arc he will evolve again into Incineroar, after which Tapu Bulu will give him the Incinium-Z. I don't particularly care for Incineroar, but Litten really does need something. What do you think? Does it sound plausible?

I always thought Tapu Bulu was going to play a role in helping Rowlet in evolving into Dartrix and then Decidueye. I might even think Tapu Bulu will give Ash the Decidium-Z, or if we were to go by the "Z-Crystal evolving" theory, Tapu Bulu "evolves" one of Ash's Z-Crystal (Grassium-Z or Ghostium-Z, provided he gets the Ghostium-Z in Ula'la Island) into the Decidium-Z.

I do agree that Litten is in need of something given that Ash doesn't have a Firium-Z, so I won't complain if Tapu Bulu focuses on Litten. It's just that Tapu Bulu and Rowlet are both Grass-Types. That being said, unless Litten has evolved into Torracat prior to going to Ula'la Island or Ash gets a Firium-Z, it'll need something while they're on that island, and I'll be fine if Tapu Bulu chooses to focus on Litten.
 
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SlimKennedy

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It would make sense given that Tapu Bulu is Grass/Fairy, but like I said, my theory is based off of the opinion that Litten is the Pokémon most desperately in need of an upgrade.
 

Zoruagible

Lover of underrated characters
I just hope Litten and Hawlucha get to meet, when Litten fully evolves and goes home to Oak's at the end of the series. Hopefully we get an Oak Lab episode anyways.... -.-


I always thought Tapu Bulu was going to play a role in helping Rowlet in evolving into Dartrix and then Decidueye. I might even think Tapu Bulu would give Ash the Decidium-Z, or if we were to go by the "Z-Crystal evolving" theory, Tapu Hulu "evolves" one of the Ash's Z-Crystal (Grassium-Z or Ghostium-Z, provided he gets the Ghostium-Z in Ula'la Island) into the Decidium-Z.

That wouldn't be 'evolving', just switching it out like Koko did. It'd still be better than that stupid 'evolving' z-crystals idea though.
 

ShadowForce720

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I don't know if anyone notice this but it seems a team change have within each group of 10 or 9 episodes and this is how what I'm talking about breaks down:

episodes:
1-10: Ash catches Rowlet, Jessie catches Mimikyu, Lillie gets Alolan Vulpix egg.
11-20: Ash catches Rockruff, Lillie obtains Alolan Vulpix, James's catches Mareanie, Mallow's Bounsweet evolves into Steenee.
21-30: Ash catches Litten, Sophocles's catches Charjabug.
31-40: Ash's Rockruff evolves into Dusk Lycanroc, Kiawe catches Alolan Marowak.

or

1-9: Ash catches Rowlet, Jessie catches Mimikyu, Lillie gets Alolan Vulpix egg.
10-19: Ash catches Rockruff, Lillie obtains Alolan Vulpix, James's catches Mareanie, Mallow's Bounsweet evolves into Steenee.
20-29: Ash catches Litten, Sophocles's catches Charjabug.
30-39: Ash's Rockruff evolves into Dusk Lycanroc, Kiawe catches Alolan Marowak.

So we might get some team changes in the 40's or 50's or both episode wise which could include captures or evolutions or a mixture of both.
 

Golden_Latias

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I don't know if anyone notice this but it seems a team change have within each group of 10 or 9 episodes and this is how what I'm talking about breaks down:

episodes:
1-10: Ash catches Rowlet, Jessie catches Mimikyu, Lillie gets Alolan Vulpix egg.
11-20: Ash catches Rockruff, Lillie obtains Alolan Vulpix, James's catches Mareanie, Mallow's Bounsweet evolves into Steenee.
21-30: Ash catches Litten, Sophocles's catches Charjabug.
31-40: Ash's Rockruff evolves into Dusk Lycanroc, Kiawe catches Alolan Marowak.

or

1-9: Ash catches Rowlet, Jessie catches Mimikyu, Lillie gets Alolan Vulpix egg.
10-19: Ash catches Rockruff, Lillie obtains Alolan Vulpix, James's catches Mareanie, Mallow's Bounsweet evolves into Steenee.
20-29: Ash catches Litten, Sophocles's catches Charjabug.
30-39: Ash's Rockruff evolves into Dusk Lycanroc, Kiawe catches Alolan Marowak.

So we might get some team changes in the 40's or 50's or both episode wise which could include captures or evolutions or a mixture of both.
That's... not really a consistent pattern, though, is it? I mean, obviously we'll get two or three team changes each in the 40's or 50's. Only question is what team changes will they be?

I'm guessing Alolan Marowak and Dusk Lycanroc are going to be it for the 30's, though, as Oranguru is not a Grass Type, and I think SM40 is going to be Popplio mastering Hydro Vortex rather than an evolution.
 

ShadowForce720

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That's... not really a consistent pattern, though, is it? I mean, obviously we'll get two or three team changes each in the 40's or 50's. Only question is what team changes will they be?

I'm guessing Alolan Marowak and Dusk Lycanroc are going to be it for the 30's, though, as Oranguru is not a Grass Type, and I think SM40 is going to be Popplio mastering Hydro Vortex rather than an evolution.

Well you never know with Sun and Moon after all they pretty much surprised us with Mallow's Bounsweet evolving in episode 18 and Sopholces's catching a Charjabug in episode 26, so I wouldn't completely rule out the possibility of Mallow catching Oranguru or Lana's Popplio evolving in episode 40. Plus I don't really think you can say that oh because Oranguru is not a grass type that it would some stop Mallow from getting it considering in the past we've had characters that were type specialist that were on the main cast and yet they wind up catching pokemon that have nothing to do with the type their specializing, for instance Brock, Cilan, and Iris, as well as Clemont.
 

Golden_Latias

#SlayQueenSlay
Well, I kind of get the impression they're adhering to their type specialties this time, especially given Z-Moves are a thing and that it's pretty obvious the entire cast is getting Z-Rings (and yes, I'm aware Oranguru can learn Energy Ball).

Not saying Mallow can't catch Oranguru or that Lana's Popplio won't evolve. I just consider both events unlikely at the moment given the information we do know about each episode.
 

type caster

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Ash team
Pikachu
Rowlet
Lycanroc
Litten
sandshrew

Z crystals Normal electric grass rock fire steel dragon fighting bug

Possible passimian pyukumuku jammoo

Reason alola sandshrew ash hinting he want to use the steel z Crystal
A counter part for vulpix a battle partner ice and steel moves
December is coming up Great marketing to show the alola form
 
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Zoruagible

Lover of underrated characters
They stuck with the type specialties for Soph and Kiawe, it would be just stupid if they broke it for Mallow and nobody else. Break it for Lana if anyone, we've had a Water specialist before so I wouldn't care too much. But we did not have a Grass specialist or Electric specialist who stuck with their types, and never had a Fire one in general.

What are the chances they'd even let Mallow get a crystal for Oranguru exclusively like Pshycium? It's obvious the writers don't give a damn about her given the way they've been treating her compared to Lana
 

Golden_Latias

#SlayQueenSlay
They wouldn't give her a Psychium-Z, most likely, nor would they need to. Oranguru can learn Energy Ball and therefore can use Bloom Doom.

I just don't think they're going to do that.
 

ShadowForce720

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They stuck with the type specialties for Soph and Kiawe, it would be just stupid if they broke it for Mallow and nobody else. Break it for Lana if anyone, we've had a Water specialist before so I wouldn't care too much. But we did not have a Grass specialist or Electric specialist who stuck with their types, and never had a Fire one in general.

What are the chances they'd even let Mallow get a crystal for Oranguru exclusively like Pshycium? It's obvious the writers don't give a damn about her given the way they've been treating her compared to Lana

You do realize that if the writers truly did not care about Mallow then she would still have a Bounsweet right now and she wouldn't get a single episode focus on her. Plus her catching an Oranguru here would be much better then her getting nothing here, at the end of the day if it winds up being a case where she either get's Oranguru here or nothing then I would prefer her to catch Oranguru. Plus if Mallow doesn't get a Z-ring/Sparkling Stone or Z-crystal here then the only other things that she could get besides something related to her goal is either catching an Oranguru or her Steenee evolving here or she gets nothing.
 

Everything12

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Ash's Team Speculation: Pikachu, Decidueye, Lycanroc (Dusk), Torracat (?), Sandslash (Alolan)/Passimian, and Kommo-o.
Normalium Z - All of them, Electrium Z>Pikanium Z/Pikashunium Z (?) - Pikachu, Grassnium Z - Decidueye, Rockium Z - Lycanroc, Steelium Z - Pikachu & Sandslash, Ghostium Z - Decidueye, Darkinium Z - Torracat, Groundium Z - Kommo-o, and Dragonium Z - Kommo-o.
Lillie: Vulpix (Alolan) - Icium Z (?)/ Fairium Z (?)
Kiawe: Turotnator & Marowak (Alolan) - Firium Z
Lana: Popplio & Araquanid - Waterium Z
Mallow: Steenee
Sophocles: Togademaru - (Exclusive Z-Move in USM?) & Vikavolt (?)
 

ShadowForce720

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Ash's Team Speculation: Pikachu, Decidueye, Lycanroc (Dusk), Torracat (?), Sandslash (Alolan)/Passimian, and Kommo-o.
Normalium Z - All of them, Electrium Z>Pikanium Z/Pikashunium Z (?) - Pikachu, Grassnium Z - Decidueye, Rockium Z - Lycanroc, Steelium Z - Pikachu & Sandslash, Ghostium Z - Decidueye, Darkinium Z - Torracat, Groundium Z - Kommo-o, and Dragonium Z - Kommo-o.
Lillie: Vulpix (Alolan) - Icium Z (?)/ Fairium Z (?)
Kiawe: Turotnator & Marowak (Alolan) - Firium Z
Lana: Popplio & Araquanid - Waterium Z
Mallow: Steenee
Sophocles: Togademaru - (Exclusive Z-Move in USM?) & Vikavolt (?)

I really don't think that Mallow's going to go all of Sun and Moon with just a Steenee and nothing else happening to her, she is going to get a capture or Steenee is going to evolve or she is going to get a Z-ring and Z-crystal or any combination of the 3 but there is no way she is going through all Sun and Moon without anything else happening to her.
 

Everything12

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I really don't think that Mallow's going to go all of Sun and Moon with just a Steenee and nothing else happening to her, she is going to get a capture or Steenee is going to evolve or she is going to get a Z-ring and Z-crystal or any combination of the 3 but there is no way she is going through all Sun and Moon without anything else happening to her.

Problem is I have no idea what else she can get, I don't think Steenee will evolve again, I doubt she will get a Z-Crystal considering the only suited for her has already been shown off, and I have no idea what she can capture considering the only things I felt were possible have already been shown off as the stars of their episode, plus theirs the fact that Mallow isn't battle oriented in the slightest so far she hasn't even had one battle against another Pokemon by this point and doesn't look like she will get one in her next episode so I don't think she needs to get anything else for development.

Mallow going to get Exeggutor she will befriend it or help it out as a Exeggcute grass/ psychic in the Oranguru episode

Alolan Exeggutor is too big to do anything of note regularly.
 

ShadowForce720

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Problem is I have no idea what else she can get, I don't think Steenee will evolve again, I doubt she will get a Z-Crystal considering the only suited for her has already been shown off, and I have no idea what she can capture considering the only things I felt were possible have already been shown off as the stars of their episode, plus theirs the fact that Mallow isn't battle oriented in the slightest so far she hasn't even had one battle against another Pokemon by this point and doesn't look like she will get one in her next episode so I don't think she needs to get anything else for development.



Alolan Exeggutor is too big to do anything of note regularly.

First off in regards to some of the possible pokemon that Mallow could catch having already debut, it's already been shown plenty of time before that just because a pokemon or an evolution has debuted already that, that doesn't stop one of the main characters on the main cast from getting it, plus it doesn't matter if Mallow is not battle oriented as that would prevent her catching more pokemon heck Serena was ceartainly not that battle oriented but that didn't stop her from having her Fennekin evolve into Braixen or stop her from getting Pancham and Eevee or stop her Eevee from evolving into Sylveon.

As for Grassium-Z already being shown off that does not prevent her from getting it as both Oliva and Gladion had Rockium-Z and use the Rock type Z-move and that didn't prevent Ash from getting the Rockium-Z. In terms of captures Mallow could get an Oranguru, Fomantis or Morelull or catch something that's introduce in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon the point is no matter how you look at it, it's safe to say that Mallow will get something, plus given how early Bounsweet evolved it wouldn't be that surprising if it eventually evolved again.
 

Golden_Latias

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1. Bounsweet evolved so early in the series that it would be a huge waste if it didn't evolve again.
2. Lana wasn't battle oriented, either, and she still got a Z-Ring. I don't see why Mallow not being battle oriented would stop her from getting one, too.
3. Given we now have Ash, Gladion, and Olivia with the Rockium-Z, I don't think her and Ash both owning a Grassium-Z really matters all that much. Ash has four Z-Crystals to choose from, and Mallow isn't active in every single episode; it's not like both of them are going to be whipping out the Grassium-Z every other episode.

Yeah, let's not assume Mallow isn't going to get anything else for the rest of the series.

Also, we don't know anything about SM39 other than Mallow runs away after an argument with her father, so it's way too early to say she isn't going to find herself in a battling situation then.
 

1rkhachatryan

Call me Robert guys
Coming up team change speculations:

Mallow: Oranguru
Lana: Dhelmise
Lillie: Capture in episode 41-50

It's time for everyone to have at least one capture and regardless of battling or not, even Serena caught a pokemon by 50.
 

Master Pikachu 11

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First off in regards to some of the possible pokemon that Mallow could catch having already debut, it's already been shown plenty of time before that just because a pokemon or an evolution has debuted already that, that doesn't stop one of the main characters on the main cast from getting it, plus it doesn't matter if Mallow is not battle oriented as that would prevent her catching more pokemon heck Serena was ceartainly not that battle oriented but that didn't stop her from having her Fennekin evolve into Braixen or stop her from getting Pancham and Eevee or stop her Eevee from evolving into Sylveon.

As for Grassium-Z already being shown off that does not prevent her from getting it as both Oliva and Gladion had Rockium-Z and use the Rock type Z-move and that didn't prevent Ash from getting the Rockium-Z. In terms of captures Mallow could get an Oranguru, Fomantis or Morelull or catch something that's introduce in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon the point is no matter how you look at it, it's safe to say that Mallow will get something, plus given how early Bounsweet evolved it wouldn't be that surprising if it eventually evolved again.

Since Morelull had an entire episode focused on it and its evolved form plus Morelull bonded with Ash rather then Mallow, I really doubt the writers are going to create another episode focused on a different Morelull when they could have made the episode, more of a Mallow focus instead of having Ash bond with it. So I have to disagree with you there.
 
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