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I don't think that it is. Rowlet has none of the traits of gagmons. It doesn't have a brash, arrogant, and selfcentered personality. It also doesn't run scared from big Pokemon.I doubt Rowlet will evolve at all it's Oshawott/Chespin all over again.
Quilladin took forever to debut too though. While I am in the Rowlet evolving camp, it wouldn't surprise me if Dartrix was treated the same.Well, if it's something, Dartrix hasn't appeared at all yet, just like how Torracat didn't debut until Litten evolved. That's mildly suspicious.
Meanwhile, Brionne already debuted months ago.
And, Popplio has to evolve at least once or else it risks being rendered obsolete by Dewpider.Quilladin took forever to debut too though. While I am in the Rowlet evolving camp, it wouldn't surprise me if Dartrix was treated the same.
Also, we've had plenty of instances where a starter's evolution debuted before a main character got it. Bayleef, Quilava, all of the Hoenn starters mid forms, Monferno, Pignite, Braixen, and Frogadier... none of these Pokemon debuted on the main cast. And you've got Sceptile, Blaziken, Torterra, and Greninja for the final evolution. So I don't even think Brionne debuting early rules out Popplio evolving.
What? This doesn't make much sense. Ash-Greninja debuted in the XY&Z anime; it was part of Gen VI. The fact that the game developers decided to use it in the SM demo, and make it usable in the SM games, does not change the fact that Ash-Greninja is part of Gen VI. It certainly does not make it part of Gen VII. It's a creation of the anime that was then transferred to the games (probably because the game developers wanted to take advantage of its popularity to get people to play the SM demo). It's not the first time that has happened; after all, Ash's Pikachu has been made available in the games.By that logic; Greninja is only promoting Gen 6 in base form in A-G form,he's promoting Gen 7 because A-G came in SM anime, which basically means it's Gen 7 stuff.And since A-G has more focus than base one, that means Greninja's entire purpose is promoting upcoming gen.You do understand that almost every time Ash uses Greninja, he goes to A-G? So, that reversion is non-factor.I already said why he wouldn't get that and I am still standing behind it; I was saying this since 2016, he won't get Alolan variant because it's still older Pokemon just different region. That's a fact that they're older Pokemon with new type and stuff, that doesn't make them new Pokemon.I already debunked you about this( when I presented other regional variants and Shadow Lugia and that they're not new Pokemon, just older Pokemon different look and type and you felt blank).Regional variants would be for 5 other MC's while Ash would get gen 7 Pokemon.Also, why must be A-Sandslash? Why not Alolan Muk or Grimer?Why are you limited to Sandslash? Inb4 you say because he has Muk already. Lmao.
He has 5. RotomDex is still a Pokemon, if we go by that; We must count Togepi, Dedenne, Axew etc.I agree that some patterns have been broken, but not as much as we want them. Hell, even one pattern that would be broken is new anime is starting in mid 2019. We always get anime starting in October, November/September. We never got new anime starting in March/May/June, isn't my argument supportive of you, patterns being broken? Also, Rowlet evolving is not big of a pattern broken anyway. In DP Ash got Turtwig and Chimchar and bot evolved. Here he also got two starters, so Rowlet evolving to Decidueye won't be pattern broken.But based on his Chespin and Oshawott and Pipluo comedic stuff, that's why I don't think he will evolve to final stage( not even second IMO).Patterns are just that—patterns. They are not rules that are etched in stone and need to be followed. We can use them to predict what might happen in the anime, but patterns can be (and have been) broken, so we shouldn't rely on them. In fact, the SM anime itself broke a couple of major patterns—Ash is stationary, rather than traveling, and he has six companions, rather than two or three. So, it's not Farfetch'd to think the SM series might break other patterns, as well.
Right now, there is no indication that Rowlet won't evolve. It's not a gag Pokémon like Oshawott or Chespin. Yes, it spends a lot of time sleeping, and it has its quirks, but it's acting like a member of its species; and its quirks can easily be retained if it evolves.
What? This doesn't make much sense. Ash-Greninja debuted in the XY&Z anime; it was part of Gen VI. The fact that the game developers decided to use it in the SM demo, and make it usable in the SM games, does not change the fact that Ash-Greninja is part of Gen VI. It certainly does not make it part of Gen VII. It's a creation of the anime that was then transferred to the games (probably because the game developers wanted to take advantage of its popularity to get people to play the SM demo). It's not the first time that has happened; after all, Ash's Pikachu has been made available in the games.
Even if Alolan form Pokémon are forms of Kantonian Pokémon, the argument that the are new Pokémon in all but name is not an entirely invalid one, because Alolan forms have different typings and stats from their Kantonian counterparts, even if they share the same Pokédex numbers. Functionally, they are new Pokémon. Personally, I look at Alolan forms as sub-species of their Kantonian counterparts, brought about by evolution.
Whether Alolan Sandshrew is a viable option for Ash depends on how the writers view Alolan form Pokémon—whether they view them as new Pokémon who share names with previous generation Pokémon, or as forms of previous generation Pokémon. And that's not something we, the fans, can exactly predict (especially when the fanbase itself is so divided over the matter).
He has 5. RotomDex is still a Pokemon, if we go by that; We must count Togepi, Dedenne, Axew etc.I agree that some patterns have been broken, but not as much as we want them. Hell, even one pattern that would be broken is new anime is starting in mid 2019. We always get anime starting in October, November/September. We never got new anime starting in March/May/June, isn't my argument supportive of you, patterns being broken? Also, Rowlet evolving is not big of a pattern broken anyway. In DP Ash got Turtwig and Chimchar and bot evolved. Here he also got two starters, so Rowlet evolving to Decidueye won't be pattern broken.But based on his Chespin and Oshawott and Pipluo comedic stuff, that's why I don't think he will evolve to final stage( not even second IMO).
But it debuted in next games, thus I am saying "technically" making it Gen VII thing, since it doesn't exist in previous XY game, but in the next one. That's the point. They're not new Pokemon, in a fact. They are regional variants which are new forms and types of certain Pokemon.. Realistically, they're not new Pokemon. Regional variants are technically new form of older Pokemon, that doesn't mean they're new Pokemon as of being new Pokemon in national dex. We currently have 807 Pokemon. If we go by your logic that they are new Pokemon,that would've been like 820+ ( because of Shadow Lugia, Crystal Onix etc). That's not the case. So, no, they're not new Pokemon at all in fact.My point is Ash's not getting any Pokemon below 721 Pokemon( which where Alolan forms are; A-Muk is in Muk section) He's catching from 722-807( minus legends, myths and some UBs)That's my point.
You're using same thing as Force " it all depends on the writers" which became boring and annoying and stupid( it's same as you said: " hey you know apples are fruits".. It feels like it's all argument you guys can pull out concerning Ash getting A-form.Also, I am getting tired of repeating same stuff like a Chatot.
You're right. Ash can catch Alolan Forms. They can't even turn back into the standard form (and vice versa).Except there still promoting gen 7, and before you mention that oh I'm just acting like Alolan forms are the only way to promote gen 7 or Ash is the only one that promotes gen 7, newsflash I'm not, however your acting like it's taboo for Ash to get a Alolan form and that the companions are the only ones that are ever allowed to promote Alolan forms, newsflash they are not, I don't really see any problem Ash getting one Alolan form I mean, geez your acting likely I'm saying that Ash is only going to have Alolan forms on his team which I'm not saying that, and from what I see you have a clear biased against Alolan forms just because they evolved from past gen pokemon.
Like it's not like people are going around saying that Ash should get say like a Trapinch something that wouldn't promote the current gen at all in anyway, where as Alolan forms promote gen 7, so I don't see the problem here you keep saying that oh but there based on past gen pokemon, yeah and? why does that matter, why does that bother you so much, when the fact of the matter is they do promote gen 7 which means they are valid targets for Ash to capture, sure you may not like it and may complain about oh how they are based on past gen pokemon all you want, but at that end of the day that doesn't really matter as they still would be promoting gen 7 so no matter how you argue it's not the same as say if Ash got a Trapinch(which promotes nothing), and again I'm not saying that the Alolan forms are the only things that promote gen 7.
I don't think RotomDex counts as a member of Ash's team like Rowlet, Lycanroc, Torracat, or Pikachu. It's not even like Togepi, Dedenne, or Axew. It's more like a sentient Pokédex than an actual Pokémon. You have been acting like most patterns cannot be broken, when most of these patterns are fan-made patterns anyway. So what if, in a previous series, Rowlet's chances of evolving would have been slim? So what if Ash has two starters? Given the many patterns SM has broken so far, there's a chance that pattern will also be broken and Rowlet will evolve, in spite of Ash having two starters, in spite of how late we are into the series.He has 5. RotomDex is still a Pokemon, if we go by that; We must count Togepi, Dedenne, Axew etc.I agree that some patterns have been broken, but not as much as we want them. Hell, even one pattern that would be broken is new anime is starting in mid 2019. We always get anime starting in October, November/September. We never got new anime starting in March/May/June, isn't my argument supportive of you, patterns being broken? Also, Rowlet evolving is not big of a pattern broken anyway. In DP Ash got Turtwig and Chimchar and bot evolved. Here he also got two starters, so Rowlet evolving to Decidueye won't be pattern broken.But based on his Chespin and Oshawott and Pipluo comedic stuff, that's why I don't think he will evolve to final stage( not even second IMO).
Ash-Greninja being adapted from the anime into the games does not make it a Gen VII Pokémon; it's still part of Gen VI. It was never advertised as being part of Gen VII, was it?But it debuted in next games, thus I am saying "technically" making it Gen VII thing, since it doesn't exist in previous XY game, but in the next one. That's the point. They're not new Pokemon, in a fact. They are regional variants which are new forms and types of certain Pokemon.. Realistically, they're not new Pokemon. Regional variants are technically new form of older Pokemon, that doesn't mean they're new Pokemon as of being new Pokemon in national dex. We currently have 807 Pokemon. If we go by your logic that they are new Pokemon,that would've been like 820+ ( because of Shadow Lugia, Crystal Onix etc). That's not the case. So, no, they're not new Pokemon at all in fact.
But it does depend on the writers. It's not a stupid argument at all, because it's true. The writers and executives are the ones in charge of this series; they are the ones who determine which Pokémon Ash catches, which Pokémon evolve, etc. If the writers want Ash to catch Alolan Sandshrew, then he will catch Alolan Sandshrew.You're using same thing as Force " it all depends on the writers" which became boring and annoying and stupid( it's same as you said: " hey you know apples are fruits".. It feels like it's all argument you guys can pull out concerning Ash getting A-form.Also, I am getting tired of repeating same stuff like a Chatot.
Except there still promoting gen 7, and before you mention that oh I'm just acting like Alolan forms are the only way to promote gen 7 or Ash is the only one that promotes gen 7, newsflash I'm not, however your acting like it's taboo for Ash to get a Alolan form and that the companions are the only ones that are ever allowed to promote Alolan forms, newsflash they are not, I don't really see any problem Ash getting one Alolan form I mean, geez your acting likely I'm saying that Ash is only going to have Alolan forms on his team which I'm not saying that, and from what I see you have a clear biased against Alolan forms just because they evolved from past gen pokemon.
Like it's not like people are going around saying that Ash should get say like a Trapinch something that wouldn't promote the current gen at all in anyway, where as Alolan forms promote gen 7, so I don't see the problem here you keep saying that oh but there based on past gen pokemon, yeah and? why does that matter, why does that bother you so much, when the fact of the matter is they do promote gen 7 which means they are valid targets for Ash to capture, sure you may not like it and may complain about oh how they are based on past gen pokemon all you want, but at that end of the day that doesn't really matter as they still would be promoting gen 7 so no matter how you argue it's not the same as say if Ash got a Trapinch(which promotes nothing), and again I'm not saying that the Alolan forms are the only things that promote gen 7.
Also in regards to Stars your actually wrong there because if you look at it people were hype for Stars and when Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon were announced they were disappointed by the fact that it was on the Nintendo 3Ds also, no it's not that they just got the name wrong it's that people were being hype up for pokemon Stars being on the Switch, and yes people thought it would be on the Switch heck that why people were so salty when it came to USUM being announced for the 3Ds and not the Switch.
I don't think RotomDex counts as a member of Ash's team like Rowlet, Lycanroc, Torracat, or Pikachu. It's not even like Togepi, Dedenne, or Axew. It's more like a sentient Pokédex than an actual Pokémon. You have been acting like most patterns cannot be broken, when most of these patterns are fan-made patterns anyway. So what if, in a previous series, Rowlet's chances of evolving would have been slim? So what if Ash has two starters? Given the many patterns SM has broken so far, there's a chance that pattern will also be broken and Rowlet will evolve, in spite of Ash having two starters, in spite of how late we are into the series.
You seem to have ignored the part of my post where I stated that Rowlet is not a gag Pokémon like Chespin or Oshawott. Just because Rowlet has been the subject of humor and gags does not make it a gag Pokémon. Its behavior fits with the description of its species. It does not shy away from battles or tough opponents the way Chespin or Oshawott did.
Ash-Greninja being adapted from the anime into the games does not make it a Gen VII Pokémon; it's still part of Gen VI. It was never advertised as being part of Gen VII, was it?
But it does depend on the writers. It's not a stupid argument at all, because it's true. The writers and executives are the ones in charge of this series; they are the ones who determine which Pokémon Ash catches, which Pokémon evolve, etc. If the writers want Ash to catch Alolan Sandshrew, then he will catch Alolan Sandshrew.
They're promoting Gen 7, just like ME does, that doesn't Ash must have them. I already explained why he wouldn't get A-form. Only way I'd see Ash getting A-form is like Aipom: A-Sandslash getting 3rd evo in Gen 8. I am not biased against them, I'd love SM cast(apart from Ash) to have it. Also, I never said I wouldn't like Ash to have A-form. In my opinion, I'd like him to get anything at all. I am just saying I don't think he will.( already explained million time). I'd like him to get legendaries. He will never catch those either. And I remember people saying: "He will get Cosmog,,first legendary for Ash" and yet Cosmog is only like Meloetta or Zygarde-core.
Why does it bother me? It doesn't bother me at all. I'd be glad to see Ash with like 10 Pokemon all training instead of 4-5. I just think higher opportunity belongs to actual new Pokemon. I'd rather Ash have Crabrawler than Alolan Sandslash. If there's no other new Pokemon for Ash to get in Gen 7,then he can get Alolan variants for all I care. So, yes, there's my reasoning: I put new Pokemon first than Alolan Pokemon.As I see, Ash has higher chances to catch Mudsdale and Crawbrawler than Alolan Sandslash.You're implying that they are only ones promoting Gen 7 based on your comments. Crabrawler,Mudsdale for Ash>>>>Alolan Sandslash for Ash.
Ok? I am talking about titles of Stars being "revealed" after SM, not USUM, how you implied earlier.Because based on that there would be 3 SM games(SM,USUM and Stars).
RotomDex is like walking Pokemon. If you treat him as a companion, so you need to treat Togepi, Pikachu, Axew and all Pokemon that have had more screen time than others.Mini-patterns can be broken. Major ones probably won't be. Ash never caught legendary, never won league, never had all 3 starters evolve, never grew up etc. What? I already said Rowlet evolving wouldn't break any pattern since we already had Torterra and Infernape evolved. Now we would have Incineroar and Deciduye( grass and fire lmao).Only mini-pattern would be broken because he's like Piplup/Oshawott, who obviously didn't evolve.
I never said he's a gag Pokemon( you seem to ignored my comment to, so we're even?), I said he's comedic relief.That's why I am halved on this one, and that's why I think he'd be Dartix at best.
I never said that would make Greninja Gen VII Pokemon. I said that form/Bond Phenomenon would be VII thing. Two different things. It did appear in SM game and not XY game, not even ORAS, game-wise it counts as Gen VII thing. Anime-wise, it's Gen VI thing,since it didn't appear in SM anime.
It is stupid argument because it's the easiest thing you can say to counter someone's argument. It's same as "who would win Goku or Beerus" and you respond to: " It's up to writers". It's the most "Captain Obviousness" thing that can happen in the universe. Instead of you presenting other argument why he would catch it like: idk "Ash should get A-Sandslash, because he's Ice/steel type, which would be first Steel type for Ash and his Ice attacks would cool down Ash and his Pokemon!!!" Then; I'd respond: "Well, Ok, but there is Crabrawler, who would be better option because he's Fighting type and can evolve into Crabominable who is also Ice type, yes he lacks steel type, but he kinda looks like stronger brawler who would take on tanky Pokemon"
Yet your argument is: "It's up to writers". LMAO XD.
No, I'm not implying that Alolan forms are the only pokemon promote gen 7, plus Ash getting Crabrawler having a higher chance then Ash getting a Alolan Sandshrew for instance, I sincerely doubt that. Yes there are other candidates that aren't Alolan forms that Ash could catch but it's not a case of oh well any of the candidates that are not Alolan Forms have a better chance of Ash getting then an Alolan Sandshrew. Right now in terms of possible candidates it's pretty much has come down to Alolan Sandshrew, Cutiefly(which has a chance of being caught by some of the other characters on the main cast), Jangmo-o, and Mudbray.
Now before you try to argue that oh Crabrawler should be on there, at this point it doesn't seem like Ash is getting a Crabrawler, especially considering they went out of there way to show Hala's Crabrawler evolving and if you notice usually when it comes to pokemon on the main cast they like to have the members of the main cast show off their pokemon evolving for instance like how we didn't see another Bounsweet that wasn't Mallow's evolving into Steenee before her Bounsweet evolved into Steenee, also to clarify I mean we actually see the evolution on screen and not just a case of where we see the another character having the evolved form of a main cast pokemon but not actually seeing it evolve from the previous stage.
Also in regards to major patterns wouldn't be broken that's not true because if you look at it people consider Ash always getting the Grass type starter and always have a Grass-Water-Fire- and Regional bird pokemon to be a core pattern that would never break and yet in gen 6 it broke. Also there is nothing that indicates that Alolan forms have a lower chance of being caught then the normal 7th gen pokemon. Also Alolan forms not like legendary pokemon especially ones like the mascot legendries like Solagleo that tend to be in leagues of their own in terms of strength.
Based on how you constructed and toned your sentence, I had feeling you were.They are higher candidates except Legendaries,Myths and per say other UBs.Ordinary Gen 7 Pokemon>Alolan Forms> Gen VII Pokemon that have been already taken by main cast(including Trio)>other UB's>Legends/myths.You were using A-Sandslash so much that there was possibility of you implying that A-S is the only one out of all Alolan variants that Ash would get.For me it's: Crabrawler, Jangmo-o, and Mudbray.
*says it doesn't seem like Ash is getting Crabrawler because of something* *attacks me for saying Ash is not getting Alolan forms because of something + he's saying it's all up to writers and now he's saying Ash likely won't get Crabrawler*
Guess what hon, It's all up to writers , just because Hala has it doesn't mean Ash won't have it, writers can easily made him catch Crabrawler. . It's so nice to use enemy's weapons against themselves.
Same logic can be implied in Hoenn: He always gets 3 starters( Kanto and Johto) and in Hoenn he got one. Also, only regional bird is true. But it may not be,since Ash released Pidgeot, he never releases flying-bird Pokemon at all. So there ya go.For me they have lower chances because normal 7th Pokemon for Ash(primarily) then after they run out, Alolan for him. While for other cast members, it's all eat buffet.