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Sun & Moon Pokémon Speculation Thread
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Sophocles got a capture as well (even if Ash helped). Lana sort of has one through her Ride Lapras, though unlike Kiawe's Charizard, that's SLOWLY becoming a character, we rarely see Lapras at all.
I do agree the girls should have at least gotten their secondaries by now though. I get compression for the sake of more trainers on screen, but they're obviously not finding much to do with just one Pokemon per piece (Kiawe and Sophocles have at least branched off a LITTLE by having two, and have most of their signature Pokemon from the games).
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playerking
Sick of dealing with idiots.
ash&charizardfan
Humans are tools
That pretty much confirm it, popplio is evolving in few months.
Red and Blue
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And Poipole as well. It's definitely coming back.
RashSkies
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Poipole became very popular in Japan, I won't be surprised if it comes back.
Red and Blue
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Yup. All he needs to do now is catch that Eevee and his team is complete.
Umm no, since he released Poipole and thus he needs to re-capture it in order to use it and we all know Ash is not gonna do that, since it was Poipole's choice to leave.
Red and Blue
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Catch it again? He doesn't need to re catch it Ash still has Poipole's Beast ball. And who says Poipole needs to come back permanently? It can rejoin Ash for a couple of episodes and return once the league is finished.
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He also still has Lapras, Butterfree and Pidgeots balls so. Poipole is released so Ash cannot use it in the league unless he recaptures it and he is not gonna do that, since that is out of character.
Red and Blue
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We know he can still callback released Pokemon since Goodra returned and Greninja can in the future as well. If Ash requested Poipole's assistance I doubt it would refuse.
Henry's Journey
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Did Ash truly release Poipole? It reminds me of a Goodra situation.
Bulbapedia's status of Goodra is "released" but he even came back for the league, unlike "in training" pokemon like Primeape that never came back..
Ugh, Lana desperately needs a team change, she is the only one in the main cast that hasn't got single one, unbelievable.
I see Stufful as the plot device for Team Rocket leaving Alola, Bewear will take care of that fluffy bear.
Pokemon that can be classed as released: Pidgeot, Butterfree, Lapras, Poipole, Greninja, Buzzwole and Stakataka because they are in the wild without a human caretaker.
Pokemon that are in training and have a human caretaker: Charizard, Squirtle, Primeape, Goodra
Henry's Journey
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Um, what? Ash never owned Stakataka or Buzzwole, then you would have to count for him a bunch of temporary pokemon https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ash_Ketchum
Serebii or anyone else does not count as those UBs ever belonging to Ash as well, Poipole's situation is clearly different.
Ashfahad123
Assalamualaikum
Since when is Charizard in training? Isn't it at Oak's place?
Ash caught Buzzwole and Stakataka in a Pokeball, as such, they are owned by him (Else Poipole wasn't caught either, considering it did nothing).
You do know Bulbapedia isn't a reliable source right, since everyone can put stuff in.
Evanibble
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Ash caught Buzzwole and Stakataka and released them back into Ultra Space. They were released, and Poipole was not. For the record, Greninja was also not released, nor was Goodra. Ash didn't suggest that he was releasing them nor was there an animation that showed them being released (like Paul had done in DP). They can be called back and he doesn't have to re-capture them.
Also just because you disagree with Bulbapedia that doesn't mean that it's an unreliable source.
Red and Blue
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Even if you don't consider Goodra released, Poipole's situation still mirrors it. Ash's fourth capture returned home after its arc. Even if there isn't a human caretaker there are plenty of other ways for it to return.
And why are Buzzwole and Stakataka released, because they had to return to the wormhole, just like Poipole.
So if Poipole isn't released, then Buzzwole and Stakataka aren't either.
The animation was also not there with Butterfree, Pidgeot and Lapras, so that is a non-argument, especially since we also didn't saw Damian officially release Charmander, since he used the same pokeball to recall it, meaning in that mindset, Charizard isn't Ash's either and every battle it was used in then is illegal.
If a Pokemon is in the wild, its officially released, since it has no way to join its trainer, since it doesn't know where it is.
Like i said: For a Pokemon to become officially a trainers, it has to be caught in a Pokeball, else it cannot particiapate in Official matches, since then there is no capture data for said Pokemon (Ash entry in the Kanto League was illegal since he used a Pokemon (Haunter), that didn't belong to him against Sabrina).
Those are the Official Pokemon League rules, else it becomes a mess since then a trainer can use their friends Pokemon if those are stronger.
So no, it doesn't matter what Bulbapedia says, they are wrong about this.
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