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Sun & Moon Pokémon Speculation Thread

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Mrs. Oreo

Banned
Didn't think about Cutiefly to be honest, that's a good option. But we have to remember that whoever will be Lillie's second Pokemon it might not get a lot of screentime.

Back before Lillie hatching Vulpix was confirmed, I was thinking that she'd catch a Cutiefly as her first Pokemon cuz it seemed so harmless, so I figured that she'd be able to touch it without being scared ha ha. But now I think Cutiefly's just too minuscule to be in the SM cast.
 

Blaze Master X

The Fallen Hero
Pikachu:
Thunderbolt
Quick Attack
Iron Tail
Electro Ball

Decidueye:
Leafage -> Spirit Shackle
Tackle -> Leaf Blade
Peck -> Brave Bird
Steel Wing

*Midday Lycanroc (if the third form doesn't exist):
Tackle -> Rock Climb
Bite -> Crunch
Rock Throw -> Rock Slide
Accelerock

*Lycanroc Third Form (if the third form exists):
Tackle -> ???
Bite -> Crunch
Rock Throw -> ???
???

Incineroar:
Scratch -> Flame Charge
Ember -> Flamethrower -> Fire Blast
Fire Fang
Fury Swipes -> Darkest Lariat

Alolan Sandslash:
Ice Ball -> Gyro Ball
Fury Cutter -> X-Scissor
Icicle Spear
Metal Claw

Hakamo-o:
Headbutt -> Sky Uppercut
Dragon Claw
Bulldoze
Outrage

Edit: Added Fire Blast in Incineroar's moveset
Edit 2: Added Third Form Lycanroc
 
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Master Pikachu 11

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I would like to see Ash end up with 6 alolan Pokémon this region especially if US&M introduces new Alolan forms and or Pokémon.

I think Ash's team will be:

Pikachu
Decidueye
Incineroar
Midday Lycanroc
Alolan Sandslash
Hakamo-o/Kommo-o
Oranguru or Araquanid or Mudsdale
The last one could depend on who the last Kahuna is and I think he could get any of those Pokémon to showcase either psychic, bug or ground. But yeah I hope his team can be a little similar to Sinnoh rather then Kalos and Hoenn in regards to number of Pokémon on the team.
 

Master Pikachu 11

Well-Known Member
Ash
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Pikachu: Thunderbolt / Quick Attack / Iron Tail / Electro Ball
Decidueye: Leafage / Leaf Blade / Spirit Shackle / Brave Bird
Lycanroc: Accelerock / Thunder Fang (Crunch) / Rock Climb / Snarl
Incineroar: Flamethrower / Darkest Lariat / Throat Chop / Outrage
Oranguru: Psychic / Stored Power / Calm Mind / Nature Power
Alolan Sandslash: Icicle Spear / Metal Claw / Brick Break / X-Scissor

As it stands, I think this is the best option for a varied team. If another Alolan form is introduced that would be fitting for Ash, or even a new Pokemon, in USUM, then I will change my wishlist/prediction. I think it'd be great for Ash to get Oranguru for the sake of having him utilize a more defensive/strategic type of Pokemon, for that is an aspect of the games after all and it'd be nice to see our protagonist using that.

Lillie
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Mallow
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Kiawe
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Lana
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Sophocles
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Gladion
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Jessie
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James
[img139]http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/748.png[/img139]

Yeah team rocket is most likely going to end up with Bewear eventually as there is no way they can report back to headquarters without it otherwise they will be in so much trouble with Giovanni!
 
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Navin

MALDREAD
Pikachu:
Thunderbolt
Quick Attack
Iron Tail
Electro Ball

Decidueye:
Leafage -> Spirit Shackle
Tackle -> Leaf Blade
Peck -> Brave Bird
Steel Wing

Midday Lycanroc (if the third form doesn't exist):
Tackle -> Rock Climb
Bite -> Crunch
Rock Throw -> Rock Slide
Accelerock

Incineroar:
Scratch -> Flame Charge
Ember -> Flamethrower
Fire Fang
Fury Swipes -> Darkest Lariat

Alolan Sandslash:
Rapid Spin -> Gyro Ball
Ice Ball -> Icicle Spear
Metal Claw
X-Scissor

Hakamo-o:
Headbutt -> Sky Uppercut
Dragon Claw
Bulldoze
Outrage


This might be one of my favorite regional rosters if it ends up being true. Lycanroc as the ace please.
 

Golden_Latias

#SlayQueenSlay
Pikachu:
Thunderbolt
Quick Attack
Iron Tail
Electro Ball

Decidueye:
Leafage -> Spirit Shackle
Tackle -> Leaf Blade
Peck -> Brave Bird
Steel Wing

Midday Lycanroc (if the third form doesn't exist):
Tackle -> Rock Climb
Bite -> Crunch
Rock Throw -> Rock Slide
Accelerock

Incineroar:
Scratch -> Flame Charge
Ember -> Flamethrower
Fire Fang
Fury Swipes -> Darkest Lariat

Alolan Sandslash:
Rapid Spin -> Gyro Ball
Ice Ball -> Icicle Spear
Metal Claw
X-Scissor

Hakamo-o:
Headbutt -> Sky Uppercut
Dragon Claw
Bulldoze
Outrage
Had a similar idea for movesets, and since I agree with your team prediction...:

Ash:

Pikachu:
Thunderbolt
Quick Attack
Electro Ball
Iron Tail

Decidueye:
Leafage
Tackle -> Leaf Blade
Peck -> Brave Bird
Spirit Shackle

Not doing Lycanroc, because I firmly believe Lycanroc-3 exists, and I can't predict its moveset if I don't know its moves.

Incineroar:
Ember -> Fire Blast
Fire Fang -> Flare Blitz
Scratch - Darkest Lariat
Fury Swipes -> Cross Chop

Alolan Sandslash:
Icicle Crash
Metal Claw
Ice Beam
Swift

Hakamo-o:
Dragon Claw
Sky Uppercut
Bulldoze
Dragon Dance

And for the hell of it, I'll predict the classmates' movesets, too. But only with the confirmed Pokemon they have:

Lillie:
Alolan Ninetales:
Powder Snow -> Blizzard
Dazzling Gleam
Ice Shard
Extrasensory

Kiawe:
Turtonator:
Flamethrower
Shell Trap
Dragon Tail
Shell Smash

Alolan Marowak:
Flame Wheel
Shadow Bone
Bonemerang
Iron Head

Lana:
Primarina:
Bubble Beam -> Sparkling Aria
Aqua Jet
Hyper Voice
Moonblast

Mallow:
Tsareena:
Sweet Scent -> Trop Kick
Magical Leaf
Double Slap -> Stomp
High Jump Kick

Sophocles:
Togedemaru:
Zing Zap
Gyro Ball
Wild Charge
Pin Missile/Fell Stinger

Vikavolt:
Discharge
Bug Buzz
Air Slash
X-Scissor

If I'm not mistaken, every single type except for Poison is represented between Ash and his classmates with this set-up. And Poison can still be covered by either Mallow or Lana because they still need a capture each too.
 

Blaze Master X

The Fallen Hero
This might be one of my favorite regional rosters if it ends up being true. Lycanroc as the ace please.

If Lycanroc's third form does exist, It might be the ace. ;)

Had a similar idea for movesets, and since I agree with your team prediction...:

Ash:

Pikachu:
Thunderbolt
Quick Attack
Electro Ball
Iron Tail

Decidueye:
Leafage
Tackle -> Leaf Blade
Peck -> Brave Bird
Spirit Shackle

Not doing Lycanroc, because I firmly believe Lycanroc-3 exists, and I can't predict its moveset if I don't know its moves.

Incineroar:
Ember -> Fire Blast
Fire Fang -> Flare Blitz
Scratch - Darkest Lariat
Fury Swipes -> Cross Chop

Alolan Sandslash:
Icicle Crash
Metal Claw
Ice Beam
Swift

Hakamo-o:
Dragon Claw
Sky Uppercut
Bulldoze
Dragon Dance

Jangmo-o can't learn Sky Uppercut, but it can learn Sky Uppercut when it evolves into Hakamo-o.

I don't think writers are giving any Ash's Pokemon four powerful moves. Incineroar can have least two powerful moves (Darkest Lariat and Fire Blast/Cross Chop).
I hope it will learn Flame Charge instead of Flare Blitz. Why? Using Flame Charge can increase Incineroar's speed and Ash is not good with slow + defenseless Pokemon. (Torracat is so fast, but Incineroar is very slow)
I doubt Fire Fang will be replaced, this move is last move Stoutland taught Litten how to use..
Cross' Incineroar used Fire Fang in M20, so it doesn't need to use its mouth/fang to use it.

Why didn't you give Alolan Sandslash Rapid Spin/Gyro Ball? It is so fast with spinning. And it can't learn Ice Beam.

Yeah, we can't predict the third form's moveset without knowing its moves pool.
 
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ShadowForce720

Well-Known Member
Had a similar idea for movesets, and since I agree with your team prediction...:

Ash:

Pikachu:
Thunderbolt
Quick Attack
Electro Ball
Iron Tail

Decidueye:
Leafage
Tackle -> Leaf Blade
Peck -> Brave Bird
Spirit Shackle

Not doing Lycanroc, because I firmly believe Lycanroc-3 exists, and I can't predict its moveset if I don't know its moves.

Incineroar:
Ember -> Fire Blast
Fire Fang -> Flare Blitz
Scratch - Darkest Lariat
Fury Swipes -> Cross Chop

Alolan Sandslash:
Icicle Crash
Metal Claw
Ice Beam
Swift

Hakamo-o:
Dragon Claw
Sky Uppercut
Bulldoze
Dragon Dance

And for the hell of it, I'll predict the classmates' movesets, too. But only with the confirmed Pokemon they have:

Lillie:
Alolan Ninetales:
Powder Snow -> Blizzard
Dazzling Gleam
Ice Shard
Extrasensory

Kiawe:
Turtonator:
Flamethrower
Shell Trap
Dragon Tail
Shell Smash

Alolan Marowak:
Flame Wheel
Shadow Bone
Bonemerang
Iron Head

Lana:
Primarina:
Bubble Beam -> Sparkling Aria
Aqua Jet
Hyper Voice
Moonblast

Mallow:
Tsareena:
Sweet Scent -> Trop Kick
Magical Leaf
Double Slap -> Stomp
High Jump Kick

Sophocles:
Togedemaru:
Zing Zap
Gyro Ball
Wild Charge
Pin Missile/Fell Stinger

Vikavolt:
Discharge
Bug Buzz
Air Slash
X-Scissor

If I'm not mistaken, every single type except for Poison is represented between Ash and his classmates with this set-up. And Poison can still be covered by either Mallow or Lana because they still need a capture each too.

Oh just pointing this out because I just found it out looking at Alolan Sandshrew's/Alolan Sandslash's moves pool and surprisingly they can't learn Ice Beam.
 

Red and Blue

Well-Known Member
Oh just pointing this out because I just found it out looking at Alolan Sandshrew's/Alolan Sandslash's moves pool and surprisingly they can't learn Ice Beam.

Yeah, that may be because Alolan Sandshrew is a physical fighter in the game. I'd replace ice beam with icicle crash if Ash gets it.
 

Golden_Latias

#SlayQueenSlay
If Lycanroc's third form does exist, It might be the ace. ;)



Jangmo-o can't learn Sky Uppercut, but it can learn Sky Uppercut when it evolves into Hakamo-o.

I don't think writers are giving any Ash's Pokemon four powerful moves. Incineroar can have least two powerful moves (Darkest Lariat and Fire Blast/Cross Chop).
I hope it will learn Flame Charge instead of Flare Blitz. Why? Using Flame Charge can increase Incineroar's speed and Ash is not good with slow + defenseless Pokemon. (Torracat is so fast, but Incineroar is very slow)
I doubt Fire Fang will be replaced, this move is last move Stoutland taught Litten how to use..
Cross' Incineroar used Fire Fang in M20, so it doesn't need to use its mouth/fang to use it.

Why didn't you give Alolan Sandslash Rapid Spin/Gyro Ball? It is so fast with spinning. And it can't learn Ice Beam.

Yeah, we can't predict the third form's moveset without knowing its moves pool.
I didn't notice it until somebody pointed it out, but the writers usually try to avoid having moves repeated on Pokemon owned by main characters. No Flamethrower for Incineroar because Kiawe's Turtonator knows Flamethrower. And Alolan Sandslash really suffered because of that. Can't give it Iron Head because Kiawe's Marowak already knows it, and I really wanted to give Gyro Ball to Togedemaru because it's the only Steel type move it can learn. That's why Sandslash's move set is kinda crap lol.

How high or low a Pokemon's attack or special attack stat is has never really been consistent with the anine anyway. Even now. Turtonator doesn't have the highest Attack stat in the world, and the writers coukd have easily given it Dragon Pulse, yet they gave it Dragon Tail instead. Steenee and Tsareena have garbage Special Attack and are capable of learning Razor Leaf, but Steenee has Magical Leaf instead. The Popplio line has garbage Attack, yet Popplio learned Aqua Jet, and I don't see that move getting replaced in the future (although given its mobility issues on land, Aqua Jet was kinda necessary).
 

Leosnake

Well-Known Member
Personally I think based on both that leaked art work way back then and the fact that Litten has been doing a lot of training. If any of the two Alolan starters that Ash has does not evolve to it's final stage if at all. It will be Rowlet. However since I don't think they are even half way in Japan for the SM animé and I also think the UMSM are going to do to the Animé a similar thing that happened with the XY animé. That being they will just continue straight on with the same story arc into a second season (XY into Pokemon XYZ). And because SM itself seems to have a bit more comedy to it I can see the final team being something like:

  • Pikachu
  • Incineroar
  • Dartrix (maybe Decidueye by the end. Because of how popular it seems to be.) I mean think about it isn't Rowlet doubleing as both his grass type and region bird? Don't those always evolve at least once or did I forget someone. Which is possible since I haven't watch all of the previous series I will admit.
  • Either Lycanroc 3rd form (if one does turn out to exist as some have speculated.) Or it will stay a Rockruff ala Bulbasaur or Axew. Bceause it seems to be like a second mascot to this series and it would save them having a second Miday or Midnight in the series.
  • Wimpod, I still think we haven't seen the last of the clips of it searching for something.
  • Jangmo-o? (I'm not too convinced this will happen myself. Not sure why though).

As for Gladion who will obviously make a return when his and Lillie's back story go into more depth. I see him having by the end of this:
  • Midnight Lycanroc
  • Umbreon
  • Silvally for obvious plot reasons and also because acording to in game lore he is the one who called it that. After it evolves from Type Null.
  • Absol I don't know why it just seems to fit to me plus they are in Alola.
  • Ariados because there was a scene in an episode (the same one he was introduced in maybe?) Where there was a sort of play room with a few Pokemon in. Including a Spinarak. I'm assuming while they could be the mother's that it is his and at some point during their story arc he will return home. He also doesn't strike me as the type not to evolve his Pokemon unless they really don't want too.

I need to think about the rest a bit more.
 

ShadowForce720

Well-Known Member
Personally I think based on both that leaked art work way back then and the fact that Litten has been doing a lot of training. If any of the two Alolan starters that Ash has does not evolve to it's final stage if at all. It will be Rowlet. However since I don't think they are even half way in Japan for the SM animé and I also think the UMSM are going to do to the Animé a similar thing that happened with the XY animé. That being they will just continue straight on with the same story arc into a second season (XY into Pokemon XYZ). And because SM itself seems to have a bit more comedy to it I can see the final team being something like:

  • Pikachu
  • Incineroar
  • Dartrix (maybe Decidueye by the end. Because of how popular it seems to be.) I mean think about it isn't Rowlet doubleing as both his grass type and region bird? Don't those always evolve at least once or did I forget someone. Which is possible since I haven't watch all of the previous series I will admit.
  • Either Lycanroc 3rd form (if one does turn out to exist as some have speculated.) Or it will stay a Rockruff ala Bulbasaur or Axew. Bceause it seems to be like a second mascot to this series and it would save them having a second Miday or Midnight in the series.
  • Wimpod, I still think we haven't seen the last of the clips of it searching for something.
  • Jangmo-o? (I'm not too convinced this will happen myself. Not sure why though).

As for Gladion who will obviously make a return when his and Lillie's back story go into more depth. I see him having by the end of this:
  • Midnight Lycanroc
  • Umbreon
  • Silvally for obvious plot reasons and also because acording to in game lore he is the one who called it that. After it evolves from Type Null.
  • Absol I don't know why it just seems to fit to me plus they are in Alola.
  • Ariados because there was a scene in an episode (the same one he was introduced in maybe?) Where there was a sort of play room with a few Pokemon in. Including a Spinarak. I'm assuming while they could be the mother's that it is his and at some point during their story arc he will return home. He also doesn't strike me as the type not to evolve his Pokemon unless they really don't want too.

I need to think about the rest a bit more.

Just pointing this out but if Rockruff doesn't evolve into the 3rd form then it will probably evolve into Midday, no matter how you look at it though it's extremely unlikely that it wouldn't evolve as even Pokefan bothered to hype it evolving up and even stated becoming a Lycanroc is Rockruff's goal, So saying that Rockruff will stay a Rockruff would be like if you said an Serena's Eevee would stay an Eevee despite hyping up it's evolution.

Basically Rockruff's options aren't evolve into 3rd Lycanroc form or stay a Rockruff, it's options are evolve into a 3rd Lycanroc form, or evolve into a Midday Lycanroc, either way it's extremely unlikely that it would stay a Rockruff for the entire series even Ash's Rockruff evolving into a Midnight form Lycanroc would be more likely.

As for Wimpod if your saying that it will stay a Wimpod the entire series then no, as evolution for Wimpod is to beneficial for it to pass up.


Also if your talking about that art that shows what appears to be Ash, Mallow, Pikachu, Rowlet, Incineroar, and Popplio, then I think it's important to point out that it's already been clarified that, that leaked art is not of something that's is going to happen in the anime, so it can't be used as evidence to say that Litten will evolve or Rowlet will stay a Rowlet.
 
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Leosnake

Well-Known Member
Just pointing this out but if Rockruff doesn't evolve into the 3rd form then it will probably evolve into Midday, no matter how you look at it though it's extremely unlikely that it wouldn't evolve as even Pokefan bothered to hype it evolving up and even stated becoming a Lycanroc is Rockruff's goal, So saying that Rockruff will stay a Rockruff would be like if you said an Serena's Eevee would stay an Eevee despite hyping up it's evolution.

Basically Rockruff's options aren't evolve into 3rd Lycanroc form or stay a Rockruff, it's options are evolve into a 3rd Lycanroc form, or evolve into a Midday Lycanroc, either way it's extremely unlikely that it would stay a Rockruff for the entire series even Ash's Rockruff evolving into a Midnight form Lycanroc would be more likely.

True but then I can also see it being Midnight as well. Because in the episode Ash ends up with Rockruff on his team they are training at night. It also wants to be like Gladion's Lycanroc given the amount of hyper activeness in that episode and based on it's current personality it seems to just fit a bit more. Then again Midday would make more sense if Gladion's Midnight is going to get more screen time.

Though from what I remember/ understand Axew wanted to evolve as well but didn't. Just because it starts off being Rockruff's goal doesn't mean it will happen.

As for Wimpod if your saying that it will stay a Wimpod the entire series then no, as evolution for Wimpod is to beneficial for it to pass up.

Depends when/if he does get it and if Guzma shows up later. Since while the games and Anime are separate cannon I can still see Golisopod being his signature Pokemon.


This also assumes of course that towards the second half ash only ends up with six Pokemon and doesn't have one kept either with Samson Oak/ Professor Kukui. Or that the Profersor Oak in Kanto doesn't make a cameo and have it sent to his lab with the rest of Ash's Pokemon.

Also if your talking about that art that shows what appears to be Ash, Mallow, Pikachu, Rowlet, Incineroar, and Popplio, then I think it's important to point out that it's already been clarified that, that leaked art is not of something that's is going to happen in the anime, so it can't be used as evidence to say that Litten will evolve or Rowlet will stay a Rowlet.

I know the scene itself isn't going to happen. But to me it does suggest they considered evolving Litten to his final form early on so I am not going to rule it out completely. Plus I never said Rowlet will never evolve. In fact I think it will reach it's middle stage if not it's final one because to me it seems to be acting as the regional bird for Ash as well as his grass type.
 

ShadowForce720

Well-Known Member
True but then I can also see it being Midnight as well. Because in the episode Ash ends up with Rockruff on his team they are training at night. It also wants to be like Gladion's Lycanroc given the amount of hyper activeness in that episode and based on it's current personality it seems to just fit a bit more. Then again Midday would make more sense if Gladion's Midnight is going to get more screen time.

Though from what I remember/ understand Axew wanted to evolve as well but didn't. Just because it starts off being Rockruff's goal doesn't mean it will happen.



Depends when/if he does get it and if Guzma shows up later. Since while the games and Anime are separate cannon I can still see Golisopod being his signature Pokemon.


This also assumes of course that towards the second half ash only ends up with six Pokemon and doesn't have one kept either with Samson Oak/ Professor Kukui. Or that the Profersor Oak in Kanto doesn't make a cameo and have it sent to his lab with the rest of Ash's Pokemon.



I know the scene itself isn't going to happen. But to me it does suggest they considered evolving Litten to his final form early on so I am not going to rule it out completely. Plus I never said Rowlet will never evolve. In fact I think it will reach it's middle stage if not it's final one because to me it seems to be acting as the regional bird for Ash as well as his grass type.

While fully evolving was into Haxorous was Axew's dream it wasn't something that was getting hyped up unlike the case with Rockruff, no matter how you look at it pokefan not going to be like oh what form of Lycanroc will it evolve into hyping up it's evolution only for it to stay a Rockruff, basically with Rockruff it's not question of if Rockruff will evolve, it's a question of when Rockruff will evolve and into which Lycanroc form.


As for the leaked art you seemed to misunderstanding something here, it's not just that scene is not going to happen in the anime it's already been clarified that the art isn't for the anime meaning it's not suggesting anything because it has nothing to do with the anime, meaning just because it's showing a Incineroar and Rowlet on there doesn't mean that Litten will fully evolve as the that leaked art is completely irreverent as it has nothing to do with the anime.


As for Guzma having a Golisopod stop Ash's supposed Wimpod from evolving, if that it an issue then guess what it probably means Ash won't get a Wimpod as, I said before evolution for Wimpod is to beneficial for it meaning that regardless of what will happen if Ash gets a Wimpod it's safe to say that it will evolve.
 

Leosnake

Well-Known Member
While fully evolving was into Haxorous was Axew's dream it wasn't something that was getting hyped up unlike the case with Rockruff, no matter how you look at it pokefan not going to be like oh what form of Lycanroc will it evolve into hyping up it's evolution only for it to stay a Rockruff, basically with Rockruff it's not question of if Rockruff will evolve, it's a question of when Rockruff will evolve and into which Lycanroc form.

Fair enough. In that case I am going to guess 3rd form with either Midday and Midnight being an equal second possibility.

As for the leaked art you seemed to misunderstanding something here, it's not just that scene is not going to happen in the anime it's already been clarified that the art isn't for the anime meaning it's not suggesting anything because it has nothing to do with the anime, meaning just because it's showing a Incineroar and Rowlet on there doesn't mean that Litten will fully evolve as the that leaked art is completely irreverent as it has nothing to do with the anime.

OK I didn't know that. You are right in that case it is pointless to include. I won't edit it out since that was my original thought process but yea.

I still think Litten will evolve before Rowlet though. Unless it turns out the amount of sleeping Rowlet does is supposed to be a sign it is going to evolve but is just taking a really long time to happen fully.

But either way I do think both will evolve at least once. With Litten reaching it's final form in the event that only one of them does this.

As for Guzma having a Golisopod stop Ash's supposed Wimpod from evolving, if that it an issue then guess what it probably means Ash won't get a Wimpod as, I said before evolution for Wimpod is to beneficial for it meaning that regardless of what will happen if Ash gets a Wimpod it's safe to say that it will evolve.

I don't think it is an issue per say. I just think that if Ash does get the Wimpod it at the very least wont evolve until we see Guzma with his first. Either way you are again probably right but at the same time I can see them keeping at least one of his Pokemon. Other than Pikachu not evolved for some reason.

So if Guzma does make an appearance this just seems like the most likely candidate to me. Partly because the animé doesn't always follow the games logic so the show's writers could make Wimpod stronger in some other way in order to face off against Guzma's Golisopod.
 

ShadowForce720

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Fair enough. In that case I am going to guess 3rd form with either Midday and Midnight being an equal second possibility.



OK I didn't know that. You are right in that case it is pointless to include. I won't edit it out since that was my original thought process but yea.

I still think Litten will evolve before Rowlet though. Unless it turns out the amount of sleeping Rowlet does is supposed to be a sign it is going to evolve but is just taking a really long time to happen fully.

But either way I do think both will evolve at least once. With Litten reaching it's final form in the event that only one of them does this.



I don't think it is an issue per say. I just think that if Ash does get the Wimpod it at the very least wont evolve until we see Guzma with his first. Either way you are again probably right but at the same time I can see them keeping at least one of his Pokemon. Other than Pikachu not evolved for some reason.

So if Guzma does make an appearance this just seems like the most likely candidate to me. Partly because the animé doesn't always follow the games logic so the show's writers could make Wimpod stronger in some other way in order to face off against Guzma's Golisopod.

People pretty much said the same thing about Ash's Kalos team that oh he will have at least one pokemon besides Pikachu that could evolve but doesn't, and yet as it turned out that didn't happen and instead every pokemon on his Kalos team that could evolve did fully evolve. Now of course it's not guaranteed that all of the pokemon beside Pikachu in the Alola team that could evolve will fully evolve, at the same time it's also not guaranteed that all the pokemon on Ash's Alola team besides Pikachu that can evolve won't fully evolve.

Right now there's not that much reason to think any of the pokemon on Ash's Alola team besides Pikachu that can evolve won't fully evolve.
 

Zoruagible

Lover of underrated characters
Incineroar:
Scratch -> Flame Charge
Ember -> Flamethrower -> Fire Blast
Fire Fang
Fury Swipes -> Darkest Lariat

That's three Fire moves.
Incineroar can learn Cross Chop. Three moves being the same type isn't that exciting when you look at Kiawe's Pokemon.

If I'm not mistaken, every single type except for Poison is represented between Ash and his classmates with this set-up. And Poison can still be covered by either Mallow or Lana because they still need a capture each too.

James has Mareanie, that's good enough given he'll be the one showcasing the z-move. Nobody else really needs a Poison type, especially if James is treated unfairly again and only gets to have Toxapex as a Pokemon and nothing else.
Salazzle's really the only Poison type around that'd even suit another main character, but that's Jessie.

Any new Poison types introduced in Ultra SM will probably end up associated with Team Skull anyways.
 

World Turtle

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Between a Rodent, a Dog, a Cat, and a Bird the only thing among classic household pets missing is a pet fish. If we get Johto Alolan Forms I think Lanturn could work. They make it Water/Ghost so it can swim through the air avoiding the usual issues that come with pure aquatic Pokemon. Why Water/Ghost? Because real life anglerfish are terrifying and I could see the 'lure' on their head being compared to a will-o-wisp.
 

RileyXY1

Young Battle Trainer
Between a Rodent, a Dog, a Cat, and a Bird the only thing among classic household pets missing is a pet fish. If we get Johto Alolan Forms I think Lanturn could work. They make it Water/Ghost so it can swim through the air avoiding the usual issues that come with pure aquatic Pokemon. Why Water/Ghost? Because real life anglerfish are terrifying and I could see the 'lure' on their head being compared to a will-o-wisp.

I don't think that Ash will catch a fish pokemon because it would be too limited.
 

DavidD001

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I still think that either will catch a Dewpider/Araquanid or get some kind of wildcard like a Mudbray/Mudsdale or the Jangmo-o line. And I'm still thinking that Ash will get a Salandit/Salazzle as it is one of the fastest pokemon in the Alola region and it does not matter if its used by Team Skull as Ash has used pokemon owned by evil team members.
 
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