Golden_Latias
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Sophocles would need a Z-Ring first, though. An Electrium-Z by itself does him no good.
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Sun & Moon Pokémon Speculation Thread
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WaterShuriken
"I..I..Iron Tail, Pikachu."
He can get a Z-ring the episode prior, no biggie, Lana did it. Or even after, like what it seems TR is doing, but maybe not too long of a gap.
Zipper4242
Bewear is the most powerful being in the universe.
Lillie is a fairy type user in-game but in the anime she has A. Vulpix so there's that and I doubt they'll evolve it but she does have a Pokemon that can become fairy
Didn't they feel the backlash from ash losing to Alain in xy&z? I was hearing and seeing about it all over social media so there was backlash from fans and they've kept ash competent for most of his battles in sun and moon
345ash-greninja
Auto-Memories Doll
Why though? He hardly does anything BTW, so I fail to see that why he'd need a Z-ring.
Red and Blue
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He's going to be fighting UBs soon. A Z ring would come in handy.
345ash-greninja
Auto-Memories Doll
Hmm, I see. But I expect UB's to 'no sell' Z-moves used by novices(who have no experience in using Z-moves), considering how powerful they are, though.
Zoruagible
Lover of underrated characters
His Charizard is fine the way it is, they should focus more on Marowak not yet another Charizard. I'm only fine with Charizard because of his current role and status, plus the fact that Kiawe is the one who gives you that Pokeride.
If they want to give Kiawe another battler, they're better off giving him a Growlithe or some other Fire type that hasn't been featured a lot.
Like Team Rocket?
Characters don't need a z-ring first to get one. It'd make things more surprising and fun if a character got a crystal, like Icium possibly being the sled race prize for instance.
Whose to say he wouldn't get both in the same episode? It's Soph, I wouldn't be surprised if they did that just to get it over with
Vulpix can learn Fairy attacks though, they can still make Vulpix learn Moonblast if they don't have it go the Ninetails route. Egg move, but it's the anime...
Golden_Latias
#SlayQueenSlay
If he's going to challenge Totem Vikavolt, he would need a Z-Ring to be able to use it. Otherwise there is literally no point in him challenging Totem Vikavolt. And yes, I know Team Rocket happened, but Sophocles is one of the protagonists, the writers won't give him a Z-Crystal and no Z-Ring. And unlike Lana, he hasn't shown any particular interest in using Z-Moves.
The whole point of this discussion has absolutely nothing to do with the Ultra Beasts. It's what would become of the Electric Trial if Ash doesn't get the Steelium-Z, because there's literally no point in the Electric Trial otherwise. Or unless Ash either gets a Bug type or Soph gets a Z-Ring, but I think both those options are unlikely.
Zariful
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So I did some quick research. So Ash could find use of Steelium if Lycanroc learned Iron Head. That is if Sandshrew doesn’t come into fruition. Ash could get a Poisonium from Plumeria at some point. Then Naganadel could help against Totem Rimbombee. Ash could also have his own Rimbombee at the time. I don’t really wanna see Totem Komoo-o get beaten again.
AssualtVestPyukumuku
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the scene where Kukui saves Burnet with his Braviary, weren't only the ally Jangmo-o & Hakamo-o present? I feel like Kommo-o will definitely come back in some fashiom whether it be as an capture, a rival's Pokémon, the Totem, the exclusive Z move, or Ryuki. I'm still hoping Ash catches Jangmo-o & Alola Sandshrew.
Golden_Latias
#SlayQueenSlay
The fact that Ash himself has not encountered a Kommo-o yet alone suggests we will see another one eventually. How he will encounter a Kommo-o is entirely up in the air, however.
GalladeRocks
Son of a Beach
Even if they saw the backlash, they’d not have any obligation to react to it. They’re not losing anything either way. Besides, it was never a matter of Ash’s competence, he was pretty consistently competent throughout XY and most of his losses came from simply being outmatched or overpowered. Showing him as a competent trainer in SM is in no way a response to any kind of XY League backlash.
As for the discussion of Kiawe competing in a potential League, I could absolutely see that happening, with him losing to Ash in the first or second round. Or even losing to Gladion or another rival of Ash’s, which i guess would make Kiawe the Barry/Bianca/Tierno of the League. But yeah I do think he would probably need at least one more Pokemon for that, I could totally see him with a Baile Oricorio. Or maybe he would just use Charizard after all.
And also cool to see that Ash will be getting Torracat and possibly/hopefully Poipole soon. If he does get Poipole, maybe they’d have him do the Vast Poni Canyon Trial eventually after all, to get Dragonium Z for the hypothetical Naganadel. And one last hurrah for Acerola and Nanu appearing soon. Seeing Acerola has renewed my dwindling hopes for Decidueye.
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XY's biggest mistake was trying to falsely hype bait fans into thinking this would be 'the one' and Ash actually stood a big chance of winning that time (which is a shame because otherwise it was the one that could have cushioned the blow by making it story influenced, what with Alain being an actual character instead of generic roadblock and Ash having the whole 'moral victor' role in the Flare arc afterwards).
SM thus far has made the better direction of not making a big deal out of the league or revolving so much of Ash's character and importance around it. Ash so far doesn't even appear to know about the Alolan league, he's just getting the crystals as his new regional quest.
SM thus far has made the better direction of not making a big deal out of the league or revolving so much of Ash's character and importance around it. Ash so far doesn't even appear to know about the Alolan league, he's just getting the crystals as his new regional quest.
Zoruagible
Lover of underrated characters
Why not? That wasn't a good enough battle for Kommo-o at all, it was quite disappointing and we still need to see Dragon's z-move and Kommo-o's, they can't have Ryuki showing off both, he'd probably be a one and done character since the Mali City gym is all he's known for. Unless they put Ryuki in the League instead since that's the only other place you can meet him, but still he'd likely show off Kommo-o's z-move and just that.
1rkhachatryan
Call me Robert guys
Am I the only one who can't see a traditional (anime) league in Alola?? Like I think they might actually go the game route this time and have him challenge the "elite four" again and then just lose to whoever the champion character is gonna be.
I mean we haven't even met another character who's actually taking the island challenge. Kiawe just did it to get his Grandpa's z ring and while Gladion mentioned it, we didn't actively hear him state he's doing it. It seems like again he did it to get the Rockium Z. Although he never confirmed he battled her either, just that that's how you get the z crystal, he could of got his another way.
I mean we haven't even met another character who's actually taking the island challenge. Kiawe just did it to get his Grandpa's z ring and while Gladion mentioned it, we didn't actively hear him state he's doing it. It seems like again he did it to get the Rockium Z. Although he never confirmed he battled her either, just that that's how you get the z crystal, he could of got his another way.
ShadowForce720
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No, actually in episode 55 Gladion specifically told Ash that he was going to do the Island challenge, which basically confirms that he will be doing the Island Challenge.
1rkhachatryan
Call me Robert guys
Oh, sorry, never watched the subbed version of that one, didn't know. Well anyways, one character a league doesn't make. That might even set up that final battle I was talking about. Ash can beat the "elite four" and then lose to Gladion or even win who knows and become the champion of Alola.
Honestly unless Professor Kukui announces the formation of the tournament soon for all of Alola to know, there's not gonna be anyone to complete.
Zariful
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You see I made a post about this, but I forgot to publish. I want them to go more a game route and add onto it. I’d like a full battle with Gladion and maybe a tournament style thing. And then have Ash battle the newly made Elite Four. But as his last challenge, he fights Kukui in a full battle. Just by the way that Kukui spends time with Ash and is greatly impressed by his skills, I want that to happen. We know he has his Braviary. It’d be amazing considering he was planning on battling Ash in the beginning of the saga, but Tapu Koko interrupted.
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