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Sun & Moon Pokémon Speculation Thread

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DragonKahuna

Dragon Master
Well Ash did the Steel type Z Move with Pikachu.
And next episode is gonna be epic....
-Lillie gets her Z Ring
-Lillie challenges Hala to a battle then performs Subzero Slammer
-Lillie gets Magearna

As well as apparently Lana, Kiawe, Sophocles & Team Rocket are going to participate in the Alola League.

Can't wait for next episode. So happy Lillie will battle Hala. Maybe that will give her the confidence to enter in the Alola League. I'm guessing Sophocles is gonna battle Horacio and his Shiny Vikavolt in the league, while Kiawe might battle Viren.
 

DavidD001

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Can't wait for next episode. So happy Lillie will battle Hala. Maybe that will give her the confidence to enter in the Alola League. I'm guessing Sophocles is gonna battle Horacio and his Shiny Vikavolt in the league, while Kiawe might battle Viren.
I can't wait either but I'm kinda shocked that it seems that Jessie & James are going to legit participate instead of crashing it.

Edit: Also finally atleast we now know when & how Lillie gets her Z Ring....from her father's study which is also where Magearna is...along with how Mohn did up Magearna for Lillie..so yeah it seems that Magearna is going to Lillie and also she might also get the Fairium Z now as well.
 
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p96822

Evolve me please
I'm hoping that because they are gonna partake in the Pokemon league. This mean that our heroes might catch more Pokemon
 

DatsRight

Well-Known Member
I hope at least Lana gets some mileage out of her Z Ring from all this, with hopefully some good build up battles before the league.

Team Rocket could also use a few 'not so harmless' faceoffs for build up as well.
 

ash&charizardfan

Humans are tools
Since TR is also participating there could be slight chance to see there old pokemon, i always wanted to see TR in serious full battle like jessie using a team of yanmega, seviper and mimikyu and james using mareanie, carnevine and inkay. I think they could pose a serious threat.
 

RileyXY1

Young Battle Trainer
It's not too late for that. Lana might catch that Dewpider from before or use her Lapras. Kiawe is basically done. They cam all separate and travel to train for the league offscreen and return with team changes.
We have basically 24 episodes left, assuming that this saga is the same length as BW and XY.
 

DatsRight

Well-Known Member
Since TR is also participating there could be slight chance to see there old pokemon, i always wanted to see TR in serious full battle like jessie using a team of yanmega, seviper and mimikyu and james using mareanie, carnevine and inkay. I think they could pose a serious threat.

I'd actually love if they did something like that, especially since it plays on the usual mythos that Team Rocket are much more competent when they do something legitimate instead of cheating or being reflexively villainous. Just no Bewear copout please.
 

RileyXY1

Young Battle Trainer
I know, that's why I said they could separate to train offscreen and could catch pokemon offscreen.
That would be a bad idea. With rivals this is okay, companions, not so much. We need to actually see them become stronger or else it would come off as lazy and forced.
 

DatsRight

Well-Known Member
It's hard to really justify companions like Mallow and Sophocles. They've done very little training at all and don't have a Z Move to powerhouse at least the odd early opponent. I mean Sophocles at least earned Vikavolt's evolution, but I still wouldn't really call him battle material.

Lillie and Lana you can at least kind of buy since they have Z Moves and have demonstrated some mild sense of a battle style, even if they seriously need to do at least a couple proper battles. Even at that, they'd probably only beat one or two early battles at best.

I sorta agree on the idea that offscreen training is a really flimsy excuse, they had plenty of time to build up these guys and unlike rivals we're supposed to be watching these guys develop and taking catharsis out of it. Saying they quickly got good offscreen while we watched the proper battlers like Ash and Kiawe train all series would feel like an insult to their hard work.

Team Rocket meanwhile are really hard to define because they interchange between being a serviceable threat or jobbers for even the non-battlers at whim. I can say they at least battled more than most of the companions this series. I have noticed we've got a SLIGHT upscale with them, Wobbuffet used Counter in a recent episode (and was probably the nearest to holding off Pheromosa for a while out of any of the main cast's attempts) and Meowth had some oddly competent displays against Rowlet and through the mechs. Mareanie's also started fighting a bit more often.
 
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Zoruagible

Lover of underrated characters
I really hope they let Mareanie get a last minute evolution more than ever now, she really deserves it and James hasn't had an evolution since OS!
Plus it'd make her more of an intimidating opponent, Mimikyu's remained consistent pretty much but she fell behind and really needs to step up

Can't wait for next episode. So happy Lillie will battle Hala. Maybe that will give her the confidence to enter in the Alola League. I'm guessing Sophocles is gonna battle Horacio and his Shiny Vikavolt in the league, while Kiawe might battle Viren.

Lana could battle her mentor, since the Popplio line's the only starter that hasn't gotten to engage in combat with it's evolution.

I can't wait either but I'm kinda shocked that it seems that Jessie & James are going to legit participate instead of crashing it.

Edit: Also finally atleast we now know when & how Lillie gets her Z Ring....from her father's study which is also where Magearna is...along with how Mohn did up Magearna for Lillie..so yeah it seems that Magearna is going to Lillie and also she might also get the Fairium Z now as well.

A nice change for the TRio considering all they've gotten to do is commentate on tournaments and Leagues until now.
It'd be lovely if they bring actual tournaments back in gen 8 and let the TRio enter those, they could legitimately beat Ash and friends without it being the end of the world!

I do like that they're making her a Fairy specialist, it suits her more than Ice. Cool as an Ice specialist companion would be, I'd much rather it happen in a region with a smaller cast considering how little we see of Ice on the cast compared to Fairy and the four main types.

It's not too late for that. Lana might catch that Dewpider from before or use her Lapras. Kiawe is basically done. They cam all separate and travel to train for the league offscreen and return with team changes.

See, that would be the right way to go about. Have Ash, Mallow, Lillie, and Rotom go on an small adventure together then return 5 episodes later to find Kiawe with the fire pupper, Soph with.... something, and Lana with Aquaranid.

While Ash got some training in with his squad; Mallow got Ivysaur and Lillie finds a gen 8 Fairy
 

Blue Saturday

Unfurl your Blessed Wings!
Honestly, Mao could just use Yareyutan, Shaymin, and Amajo.

Lillie can use the Sand, Shiron and Magearna.

Mamane can use Togedemaru, Kuwagannon, and Metang.

Suiren can use Ashirene, Nagisa and Lapalace / Shizukumo.

Done. That’s assuming they all need at least three but I imagine the first rounds will be 1 vs. 1.
 

Ignition

We are so back Zygardebros
Hopefully the classmates stay in Double Battle rounds with the exception of Kiawe. I could definitely see Sophocles vs Lana where he thinks he has the upper hand but Lana uses Hydro Vortex/Oceanic Operetta to finish him. Doesn’t feel right watching them use Mythicals that were just handed to them without any training beforehand
 

Blue Saturday

Unfurl your Blessed Wings!
Doesn’t feel right watching them use Mythicals that were just handed to them without any training beforehand
Clearly a merchandise-driven decision also because Mao and Suiren needed new shillmon as tradeoff for Amamaiko and Ashimari evolving, Eevee might not be a mythical but it’s borderline Pikachu’s co-mascot at this point. Guessing we’ll get distributions for “Mao’s Shaymin,” “Satoshi’s Meltan,” and “Lillie’s Magearnie” as some point.
 

Ignition

We are so back Zygardebros
Clearly a merchandise-driven decision also because Mao and Suiren needed new shillmon as tradeoff for Amamaiko and Ashimari evolving, Eevee might not be a mythical but it’s borderline Pikachu’s co-mascot at this point. Guessing we’ll get distributions for “Mao’s Shaymin,” “Satoshi’s Meltan,” and “Lillie’s Magearnie” as some point.
Fair point. Didn’t think about that because Shaymin seemed extremely out of place
 

DragonKahuna

Dragon Master
I really hope they let Mareanie get a last minute evolution more than ever now, she really deserves it and James hasn't had an evolution since OS!
Plus it'd make her more of an intimidating opponent, Mimikyu's remained consistent pretty much but she fell behind and really needs to step up



Lana could battle her mentor, since the Popplio line's the only starter that hasn't gotten to engage in combat with it's evolution.



A nice change for the TRio considering all they've gotten to do is commentate on tournaments and Leagues until now.
It'd be lovely if they bring actual tournaments back in gen 8 and let the TRio enter those, they could legitimately beat Ash and friends without it being the end of the world!

I do like that they're making her a Fairy specialist, it suits her more than Ice. Cool as an Ice specialist companion would be, I'd much rather it happen in a region with a smaller cast considering how little we see of Ice on the cast compared to Fairy and the four main types.



See, that would be the right way to go about. Have Ash, Mallow, Lillie, and Rotom go on an small adventure together then return 5 episodes later to find Kiawe with the fire pupper, Soph with.... something, and Lana with Aquaranid.

While Ash got some training in with his squad; Mallow got Ivysaur and Lillie finds a gen 8 Fairy

Team Ivysaur for Mallow. I like the scenario.
 

ash&charizardfan

Humans are tools
Hopefully the classmates stay in Double Battle rounds with the exception of Kiawe. I could definitely see Sophocles vs Lana where he thinks he has the upper hand but Lana uses Hydro Vortex/Oceanic Operetta to finish him. Doesn’t feel right watching them use Mythicals that were just handed to them without any training beforehand

You know i am feeling bad for all the rivals from OS-XY who trained there pokemon well but still werent allowed to get mythicals coz they are OP whereas here some companions are getting mythicals for free without any training or earning it.
 
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