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Sunnybeamer/Curselax

teal

Well-Known Member
Togetic (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Hustle
EVs: 255 HP / 255 Spd
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Light Screen
- Shadow Ball
- Sunny Day
- Wish

Venusaur (M) @ Leftovers ** Venasaur
Trait: Overgrow
EVs: 255 Spd / 255 SAtk
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Sleep Powder
- Solar Beam
- Substitute
- Synthesis

Charizard (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 255 Spd / 255 SAtk
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Earthquake
- Overheat
- Roar
- Sunny Day

Ditto @ (No Item)
Trait: Limber
EVs: 255 Spd / 255 SAtk
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Transform

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 255 HP / 255 Atk
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Curse
- Rest
- Return
- Shadow Ball

Dragonite (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Inner Focus
EVs: 255 HP / 255 SAtk
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Need help with traits
 

DragonDance

thrasher
Sunnybeam fails unless your name is Groudon + Exegutor in ubers.

you have incomplete EV spreads. 252/252/6 splits generally fail.

Hardy (or any neutral nature) fails aswell.

you have a massive DDTar weak.
 

Tazzler

Well-Known Member
160 HP / 136 Atk / 56 Def / 16 Spd / 140 SDef is a good Curselax spread.

If you want a Special Charizard, use Substitute/Focus Punch/Hidden Power [Grass]/Fire Blast @ Petaya Berry. It's cool. 12 HP / 104 Atk / 140 Spd / 252 SAtk with a Mild nature.
 

Tazzler

Well-Known Member
There are better placeholders than Ditto. .-.
 
teal said:
Togetic (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Hustle
EVs: 255 HP / 255 Spd
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Light Screen
- Shadow Ball
- Sunny Day
- Wish

There are better wishers out there. Vaporeon, Umbreon, Salamence, Jirachi, and Gardevoir are five right off the top of my head.

You seem new, so in case you were wondering, Jirachi is actually ok in standard play, as are a few other legendaries.


Venusaur (M) @ Leftovers ** Venasaur
Trait: Overgrow
EVs: 255 Spd / 255 SAtk
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Sleep Powder
- Sludge Bomb
- Leech Seed
- Synthesis

I never have used Venusaur before. I can only tell you about the nature and move changes that I already made, and that's it.

Charizard (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 255 Spd / 255 SAtk
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Earthquake
- Overheat
- Dragon Dance / Swords Dance / Belly Drum
- HP [Flying]


Idk. Ditto what I said for Venusaur.

Ditto @ (No Item)
Trait: Limber
EVs: 255 Spd / 255 SAtk
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Transform

I strongly recommend against the use of this thing in standard.

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 255 HP / 255 Atk
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Rest
- Return
- Shadow Ball

Go with Tazzler's spread.

Dragonite (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Inner Focus
EVs: 244 HP / 188 SAtk / 76 SDef
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)

- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Need help with traits
There you go. Changes / comments in Bold.
 

aipomkong

prophecy fulfilled
i heard using natures is pretty cool

also sunnybeaming is overrated, unless you're exeggutor in ou or victreebel
 

aipomkong

prophecy fulfilled
tbh it's better to go either special or physical with saur, as you want to run like 211 speed to outspeed milo/cune and get the sleep powder on them if they stay in and try some ****
 

aipomkong

prophecy fulfilled
mix one is decent, d/p will make it better though, special sludge bomb n_n
 

magnemiteZ

Well-Known Member
yeah, I know.
though it won't be so mixed anymore xd

means you can run some speed too, and not sassy.


****ing gengar in D/P.
 

Tazzler

Well-Known Member
i heard using natures is pretty cool

also sunnybeaming is overrated, unless you're exeggutor in ou or victreebel

Vileplume*.
 

teal

Well-Known Member
Thanks for all the help here. A lot of the pokemon are there are more personal favorites, like Togetic. And well, Togekiss isn't to far off, so i'll stay with him I think.

I'll revert my Venasaur to a physical sweeper with Sludge Bomb.
Charizard @ Overheat has been working well lately so i'll keep him.

If anyone can craft a few more pokemon for me, I' dappreciate it.

(I am new lol)
 
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