Super Mario Revolution and the Revolutions

[Smile Guy]

Allow me to have a, erm, small editorial...

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N E S
Super Mario Bros.
Super Mario Bros. 2
Super Mario Bros. 3

So, what do we have here? The three major Super Mario platforming titles on the NES. Let's, for now, ignore 2 & 3. So, what was Super Mario Bros.? It was a Revolution. That's what. Allow me to explain: It was something brand new... 2D Platforming in a side-scrolling style. Unbelievable. And you know what? What? I hear you cry. It paved the way for everything in this style to come and it was almost the "official birth" of console gaming. What an achievement.

S N E S
Super Mario World
Super Mario World 2

And here we have the Super Mario World series. Ah. Well, although people look back at these games with the softest glow in the eyes and as some of the best games ever, what did it offer (despite prettier graphics) more than the NES wonder-revolution did? The answer is very little? Gameplay wise it added a lot more. Riding Yoshi, etc, but it was by no means something catastrophically (in a good way) amazing.

N I N T E N D O 6 4
Super Mario 64

And here's the clincher. Super Mario 64. Wow. The birth of 3D gaming and the birth of an explosive new way to play games which to this day is still exploded (rather like the Big Bang, don't you think?) It was - and I think everyone has to agree with this - such an upholding revolution (just like the original Super Mario Bros.) that it was like nothing ever seen or played ever before. Revolution!

G A M E C U B E
Super Mario Sunshine

And then we had Super Mario Sunshine. Which, like Super Mario World was to Super Mario Bros., was - although exceedingly good in it's own right - offered nothing more to the series. It was brilliant but it certainly doesn't deserve to be classed as a Revolution as 64 and Bros. did......

T H E F U T U R E
And here we have Super Mario Revolution. And, in case you still haven't noticed... there's a pattern:

REVOLUTION!!!
JUST GOOD
REVOLUTION!!!
JUST GOOD
REVOLUTION???

Certainly. After all, the console which the next Super Mario will be on is codenamed the Revolution. And I believe it will be. But how? Yes, the controller is freestyle and got motion and tilt sensors and all that waffle but how can it be implemented to Super Mario without it becoming merely an awkward control system?

Well, I think we should leave THAT to the masters themselves, that are Nintendo, but that doesn't mean we can't speculate... What can be this newfound way?

2D --> 3D --> 4D?

Who knows? But lets at least guess. You can even, as you speculate, mention things that haven't exactly been confirmed about the Revolution...
So, on with the Revolution and Super Mario and let's

SPECULATE!

 

[Atomic Boo]

Thats a very interesting way of putting it, I see where you're coming from and agree with it. Nintendo are making such a huge control difference with their new system that the likelihood of a 'Revolution' is very high.

As you put it, it seems that all the Revolutionary Mario Games have had an 'upgrade which was just very good, not Revolutionary. As SMB has its advances in SMB3 and world, and SM64 has an 'upgrade' in Sunshine.

I believe we are in for a Revolution, nomatter what anyone else says.

 

[Bulk]

2D --> 3D --> 4D?

Well, I'm not sure if you were joking here or not but Myamoto did say there were still secrets about the Revolution controller to be reveled. What if this was some form of implementation that allowed 4D gaming? Putting a Mario game (possibly Mario 128) as a launch game showing off the real pottential of the Revolution would make perfect sense and would fit the pattern you've described, and one that I totally agree with. I see this as a very stong possibility.

 

[Smile Guy]

I think Mario Revolution is very likely to be a launch title... We have waited about 10 years for it!

 

[ShiningClefairy]

If the pattern continues, it'll be New Super Mario Bros. for DS, considering the pattern has applied to every NEW Mario game (aside from ports like All-Stars, 64 DS, and Advance).

New SMB, please be good! It's been 13 years at least since we got a new sidescroller starring Mario.

 

[DJ-Will]

I'm very confident that it'll be good, considering the effort Nintendo put into it to make it the best Mario sidescroller (if not Mario game) ever.

 

[Kez]

I hope that we will be getting Mario 128 soon, or at least some info on it. As the Mario revolution, who knows? Are they one and the same, or different.

And about the 4D thing, im know scientist, but you can not see the 4th dimention, and i do not even know what it is. The newer games, will just be more interactive. I mean as you have seen, there are more and more peripherals been released for consoles. I think that they will be trying to head for the VR thing in the future.

 

[Serebii]

You people do know that the 4th Dimension is Time right?

 

[Tamantaman]

You people do know that the 4th Dimension is Time right?

Yeah.
OF COURSE! The Revolution's hidden feature is that you go to different times to play it, with different weapons depending on the time!

 

[Bulk]

You people do know that the 4th Dimension is Time right?

Well, when you're refering to the real world then yes. But, for example, the Pirates 4D ride at Thorpe Park (England) claims to be 4D but all it really is is putting on a pair of glasses and the screen pops out at you. It's not 4D but the term is simply used as 3D wouldn't sound as exciting. In games, we already have 3D (Well, it isn't really, 3D is an illusion created by 2D pixels) Considering Myamoto said the controller still had some secrets and Nintendo bought a bungle of glasses (similar in function to the ones used on Pirates 4D), if the Revolution came with this functon, Nintendo would probably market it as 4D making the next Mario game 4D. This would follow the pattern. I think I'm making sense but I do understand that 4D is time and it will take a while for games to become really 4D, however, if what I'm saying happens (and it's a little unlikely it will) then Mario Revolution WILL be a Revolution.

Also, is Nintendo didn't bring out the glasses included (or at all) the aspect of how the controller works could still be interpretated as a 4D style of gameplay. This would again make Mario Revolution as revolution.

Ok, I'm rambling now but I think I've explained myself a bit better this time.

 

[Paradox]

3D glasses have been done before in games, I doubt they would go there.

 

[Omega Pirate]

The pattern is obvious but I doubt intentional, I also read somewhere that the next Mario game which is scheduled for the 'Revolution' is the proper sequel to Super Mario 64. Sunshine not being so because of the introduction of F.L.U.D.D.

 

[Smile Guy]

My 4D mention was merely "rushed" speculation. I'm stating that Mario Revolution will be out of this world. And, I did know, that in the science-world the fourth dimension is time but, I doubt that that would apply to video games.

 

[Omega Pirate]

Its a common misconception about the 4th dimension. Everyone is being led to believe its touch because of those tacky '4D films' i.e. Shrek 4D where they use stupid effects like water spray and seat vibrations. Anyone that finds these even remotely entertaining must be very easily amused.
It sickens me.

 

[MidnightScott]

LOL - I went to one at the Bob Bullock Texas State History Museum in Austin - lol, a snake was like biting in the film and it felt like we were all bit in the butt on the chair. We also felt water when it was raining or something...

I think that in the next generation after this we will be able to feel pain from playing a game...

You know how IMAX theaters make you feel like your in the movie? I wish games could be that way

~Scott;229;

 

[ghost master]

Well to stick to the main point. I think/hope this game will be as good as 64 possibly better. I think control wise it could use the core controller and be fine. You could have mario walk by just pushing the controller forward. Pull it towards you and he would run in the other direction. If you jerk it up mario will jump in the air. If you tilt the controller to the left or right the camera will rotate around you to change you view. Remember it only takes slight movements to make it work so it shouldnt be hard or weird looking to play.

 

[Locke Yggdrasill]

Joe, I have to slap a big "Yarly" on that one.
you can't really consider virtual reality to be the 4th Dimension. It's more like....anexpansion on the third one. The 3.5th dimension if you will.

 

[TeddiUrsa]

I can´t stop laughing over the "4D" thing.... Super Mario Revolution is inculded with a real time-machine, for sure....or even..time goes by while playing it...? who knows....

Anyway, does the mario games really need a revolution? I liked Super mario sunshine ( I dislike Mario 64, because it feels kinda dead..),Mario brother 3 is one of my top favourite games and I love super mario world 2, games, you called not very amazing..well...their features were nifty ( mainly Yoshi´s Island) and people had the time to put in many cool details while games like Mario 64 tried to hard to transport the gameplay into a new direction , forgetting the make the game appealing and fun ( I mean...the lava-level...good god..the lava-level....-.-...or the one-hit-instand-kill enemies while mario had thousands of moves...)

I´d rather have a game like yoshi´s Island which weren´t THAT revolutionary, but perfect in its category instead of a new try to redefine a genre.

 

[Smile Guy]

I don't think people are fully understanding my thread.

Scrap the 4D thing.

 

[Paradox]

As long as they concentrate on the basic platforming like 64 and not Sunshine, it should be fine. The similar levels in Sunshine completely put me off