aquasuicune
Well-Known Member
You should be afraid of Thundurus. There are four of them in the Battle Subway:
922 | Thundurus | Bold | Chesto Berry | Thunderbolt | Protect | Toxic | Rest | HP/SpD
942 | Thundurus | Timid | Choice Band | Thunderbolt | Dark Pulse | Focus Blast | Grass Knot | Spd/SpA
962 | Thundurus | Jolly | Sitrus Berry | Wild Charge | U-turn | Crunch | Sky Drop | Atk/Spd
982 | Thundurus | Timid | Magnet | Discharge | Focus Blast | Volt Switch | Taunt | Spd/SpA
Calcs run using the Psypokes damage calculator and data from Smogon's research thread.
Your Starmie cannot even 2HKO Thundurus 1, who will always OHKO you back if it uses thunderbolt.
The situation against Thundurus 2 is even worse, as it will outspeed you and OHKO you even more handily with Thunderbolt, and do upwards of 80% damage with Grass Knot.
Thundurus 3 will easily OHKO with Wild Charge, 2HKO you with Crunch, and will even manage 60-66% with U-turn, while Starmie is still unable to OHKO it back.
Thundurus 4 will also outspeed and OHKO you will Discharge.
The situation is even more bleak for Masquerain, and I am too lazy to run the calcs for Lucario.
Anyway, this is just to illustrate that Thundurus poses a huge threat to this team. However, by the Thundurus appears, I think you could consider this team to be quite successful, as he won't come out until very late in your streak. Nevertheless, be aware.
Edit for completion: aaannyway, Lucario could even manage pretty well with a black belt, which will manage to boost both Aura Sphere and Vacuum wave without restricting your versatility as a choice item would. A Lum Berry should not be put out of consideration though, in case those Pranksters manage to land a hit. You'll probably want to spend your time killing them rather than resting.
922 | Thundurus | Bold | Chesto Berry | Thunderbolt | Protect | Toxic | Rest | HP/SpD
942 | Thundurus | Timid | Choice Band | Thunderbolt | Dark Pulse | Focus Blast | Grass Knot | Spd/SpA
962 | Thundurus | Jolly | Sitrus Berry | Wild Charge | U-turn | Crunch | Sky Drop | Atk/Spd
982 | Thundurus | Timid | Magnet | Discharge | Focus Blast | Volt Switch | Taunt | Spd/SpA
Calcs run using the Psypokes damage calculator and data from Smogon's research thread.
Your Starmie cannot even 2HKO Thundurus 1, who will always OHKO you back if it uses thunderbolt.
The situation against Thundurus 2 is even worse, as it will outspeed you and OHKO you even more handily with Thunderbolt, and do upwards of 80% damage with Grass Knot.
Thundurus 3 will easily OHKO with Wild Charge, 2HKO you with Crunch, and will even manage 60-66% with U-turn, while Starmie is still unable to OHKO it back.
Thundurus 4 will also outspeed and OHKO you will Discharge.
The situation is even more bleak for Masquerain, and I am too lazy to run the calcs for Lucario.
Anyway, this is just to illustrate that Thundurus poses a huge threat to this team. However, by the Thundurus appears, I think you could consider this team to be quite successful, as he won't come out until very late in your streak. Nevertheless, be aware.
Edit for completion: aaannyway, Lucario could even manage pretty well with a black belt, which will manage to boost both Aura Sphere and Vacuum wave without restricting your versatility as a choice item would. A Lum Berry should not be put out of consideration though, in case those Pranksters manage to land a hit. You'll probably want to spend your time killing them rather than resting.
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