Taboo Issues in Fics

[Ledian_X]

Yesterday on AIM, Iceking and I were talking about our respective stories and he asked for a shocking moment in Starbolts tha can give you the creeps. I gave him a couple and he responded saying "I dunno if Scrap'd like that." Scrap didn't mind once I told her the reasoning and all that. But, I decided to make a thread about taboo issues. So, I decided to make a few questions to see what everyone here thinks.

The taboo issues I was referring to are stuff like: Rape, murder and abortion. All three are present in my story. But, we never see any of my characters get raped. It's just in her past and then I show that she is a rape survivor. She gets memories of the incident when she deals with the person who raped her. And then I show that she's a survivor of rape when she talks to her boyfriend about it. She has to find out of she can love someone in that way and that leads to love scenes. But, don't worry I wasn't pornographic. Also, I went to a friend who had a similar situation happen and she said it was realisitc so there's no need to call me on that.

So, here are the questions I'd like to pose to you:

1.) What are your thoughts on taboo issues in fics?

I feel that if done right, they can be used well. The world's not a pretty place and there are some people who would do those things if given the chance. It adds a sense of realism to it and sometimes people can relate. If the people get worked up about it, it can be discussed. But, if you write it to show that it's not graphic and just a memory, it should be okay. You need to show that someone's a rape survivor and not a victim. My friend told me that.

Love scenes are fine too. Just don't get into like Skinamax 12:30 AM hardcore porn. You can show the kissing but that's about it. Just warn people if you must but, I would think/hope people can deal with what I put out.

Murder's fine. Bad guy who came back for someone in my story got his commupance. He committed a crime and well eventually he dies. But, other criminals get arrested.

2.) Do you have any taboo issues in your story?

Yes. Quite a few but it's no darker than any comic published today since the comics code was done away with. Even before that, there have been heroes that had to deal with things in their past that was not pretty.

Also, I wrote about abortion and how the aliens in the story deal with it. An attempt was shown but it was used with alien machinery. That and I wrote that it's lethal to the females of the species. But, it's up to the writer to touch on issues like that.

3.) Do you think taboo issues shouldn't be in fics?

No, they should be in it but, you don't have to be graphic about it. Just handle them in an adult manner and you should be fine. If the story calls for something dramatic, go for it. Grim and gritty's fine as long as you don't go overboard. I didn't show the rape. Just linked back to it.

Those are the only questions I have so far. I would post the taboo issue paragraphs but nah, that's fine. So, let's get talking about taboo issues in stories. Would you do it? I did because of realism. That and it reflects a lot of comics today. Trust me, there've been characters fallen down drunk, abused, raped, driven insane and more. All that matters is how you the other writes it.

*gets off soapbox*

LX

 

[Omega Pirate]

None of my fics really deal with taboo issues, I was thinking of adding a gay, it seems to be the fashion.

But really I have no problem with rape, abortion, homsexuality, murder. All these things are, these days, the basis for many famous and influencial films, why can't it be that same for fics?

Then to some degree I guess it would also come down to who's reading it. Some of those Christian extremists could have a field day with some of the fics I've read.

 

[Seijiro Mafuné]

Well, as someone who writes that sort of thing...

1-Well, it's complicated. Murder is somewhat dimmed down, given how it's just death executed by others, but I don't like writing about it much since it tends to go towards actually thinking of killing a person rather than it being a fight for survival. In general, I tend to have the bad guys do it mostly... but my good guys, for these fics, are not exempt of it.

Rape is a bit controversial. I don't like the idea of it happening... and yet, it manages to find a way into my fics. (The shock ones that is.) I try to show it in a negative light, since nobody WANTS to be raped if they're normal beings, at least not having it be their only form of sex. (Besides, once you begin enjoying it...)

Homosexuality... I admit I don't like writing about this either, but the reason is simple: I don't know how to deal with it. Okay? Skip to next.

Abortion, I find sickening. I do understand that women who don't or can't have children should be allowed to abort... but an abortion just for the sake of abortion is disgusting. If I have to write it, I will... but expect me to write something even more disgusting than it should be.

2-If you've read SOMETHING, you'll notice that I already entered a taboo. To spoil a bit... [SPOIL]later on, Jamie and Estella's relationship grows troubling, as he is forced apart from her... and their child.[/SPOIL]

3-There's a difference between writing M-rated content for the sake of plot and writing M-rated content for the sake of M-rated content. If you are going to write something nasty, always ask yourself 'Is this really advancing the plot, or developing my characters? Is there a good reasoning for it, that I can use to aid it?'. If the answer happens to be 'no', then you'd better cut it off.

[SPOIL]PS: If you think violence, gore, and death are fine themes to write, but sex is off-limits, and yet you are writing with an M/R rating... that makes no sense.[/SPOIL]

 

[Ledian_X]

Ahh, we're getting a nice dialog here. That's what I was hoping for ya know. Oh and Driveshaft, I think the Christian right'd have a field day on my story. C'mon I have proved the existance of aliens in the story, which proves that people on this planet aren't God's favorite creation. That and there are alien/human couples. And that's just scratching the surface. But, if they banned that then they'd have to ban everything written by Marvel, DC, Image and all the independant comic companies.

Well Sejiro, in my case the nitty gritty advances the plot. Jenna, the woman who was raped is now able to move on after dealing with her rapist, Rick Baxter. I forgot to mention while doing the taboo issues, I'm also showing a human side to the heroes. Yes they all have fantastic powers but they're still people and some have tragic pasts that include these taboo issues. It's even in current comics too and dates back to the 60s.

I've used the issues to develop my characters and advance the plot. It's desturbing to write. Seriously...I felt shudders writing Jenna's confrontations with Baxter. Felt the same thing in chapter 12, too. But, the love scenes develop the characters especially since the aliens in it mate for life. They're now forever connected.

But, like you said, there has to be a good reason for it and I do have very good reasons for putting the stuff in.

LX

 

[katiekitten]

I'm fine with Taboo issues, it happens in real life, then why shouldn't it happen in stories? Rape happens, it is a terrible thing, but it does. We can't just ignore it and pretend the world is a happy place for everyone. It is a real issue that needs to be delt with, and some people do that through stories.

Abortions. I would rather someone had an abortion, than force a child to grow up in a horrible home, hungry, because their mother couldn't afford a job because of they had to drop out of school to care for them. Better to save them from such a horrible life. I don't understand people who hate others for having abortions. It is sad, but sometimes it has to be done. Some people aren't ready, why force it on them? It is there decision. And as it does happen in real life, why ignore it?

Homosexuality I am also fine with. It isn't something to be disgusted with, its natural. Some people at birth have a females mind in a mans body, or visa versa. Some people fall in love with the same sex. It isn't something to be afraid of. People can't change who they are, so why hate them for it?

I would include it in my stories, except I don't know how to deal with it yet... I am to young. Death I am fine with, thanks to all the CSIs and Law and Orders. You will see a lot of murder in mine, that's how the story goes. Not murder in a man killed another man, but... You'll see.

On the last question, I think I answered it with the first. XD Just incase I haven't, yes they should be in stories. They shouldn't be there for the sake of being there, so the author can seem 'mature' for writing about 'mature themes' but if your plot asks for it, put it in. You can't just ignore it, hate it, hate people who point it out through stories because it does happen in real life. By putting it in stories, people can let people know that it does happen. If people don't like it and ignore it, not telling their children about it, it will be them who get hurt. You have to except the truth: The world can be an ugly place. Deal with it and t on with your life.

 

[Shrike Flamestar]

Let’s see; in my fic I already have one character with major homosexual overtones; some outright killing with no provocation (and there will be even more in the next chapter ); and, while it hasn’t really appeared yet, religion will be a major theme latter on.

I personally don’t think there is such thing as “taboo issues.” Just because it’s not written about all that much, and some people might be turned away by it, does not mean it should never be written about. If anything, those issues may make a story more interesting as lots of readers may never have read something like it before and they will make it all seem more real. I mean, not everyone in the world is straight after all (I am straight, though...)

 

[BirthdayPirate]

The way I see it is this: if a character would logically do something icky in a certain situation, then write it that way, but try to keep it tasteful. Your job, as a writer, is to tell the story of these people, not make all real people feel fuzzy inside.

 

[RaZoR LeAf]

The taboo issues I was referring to are stuff like: Rape, murder and abortion. All three are present in my story. But, we never see any of my characters get raped. It's just in her past and then I show that she is a rape survivor. She gets memories of the incident when she deals with the person who raped her. And then I show that she's a survivor of rape when she talks to her boyfriend about it. She has to find out of she can love someone in that way and that leads to love scenes. But, don't worry I wasn't pornographic. Also, I went to a friend who had a similar situation happen and she said it was realisitc so there's no need to call me on that.


1.) What are your thoughts on taboo issues in fics?

If they are handled well and treated with the respect the situation deserves, then they can add an important and emotional depth to the fic. But they need to be part of the story, like something that could cause a character to have scaring, or as a twist that can force to people apart, together or against each other. Not just thrown in for the sake of getting a higher maturity rating.

It doesn't need to be graphic, but it also doesn't need to be pussy-footed around and just mentioned on the off chance. It needs to be explained and dealt with, just as the situation would in reality.

2.) Do you have any taboo issues in your story?

Not that come to mind. Since two of my fic are humorous, I'll concentrate on Zelda. Having Ganondorf working alongside the two heroes is maybe something of an issue, but I wouldn't have said it was taboo. Later on in the fic there will be scenes of violence and murder, but it will be from an expected source (the main villain). I'm hoping that a sequel to Battle for Hyrule will be a darker affair, and have more mature themes in it (such as abandonment for one character and conflicting opinions of faith).

3.) Do you think taboo issues shouldn't be in fics?

I see no reason for them to be excluded indefinitely. As said previously, they need to be handled properly, and not used for the sake of using them. They should go with the proper disclaimers before hand, so anyone reading knows what they are getting into. I've read novels where characters have used sexual orgies in order to fuel black magic (used for murder no less), and a character deal with his repressed homosexuality in a society where it is greatly frowned upon. But I suppose novels are slightly different to fics in a sense, but that's no reason to exclude maturity subjects.

 

[Bay]

I feel okay with the taboo issues in stories, as long as it had a purpose to it. The purpose can be from advancing plot to theme to character development. If you are forcing to write a taboo issue just so you can sound like you are mature writer and all, then the story might sound quite bad.

Well, there will be one taboo issue in my upcoming story "Take Fifty-Five!", but it kind of being use for comedic and character development purposes. [SPOIL]There will be one scene in which Pidge (a Pidgeotto) will say, to the manager of the movie studio they are working for, that both him and Mell (a Swellow) were not only partners in movie producing but also "life long partners", just to make the manager feel sorry for them. Don't worry, nothing controversial has happen. You will get this once this story comes out. Sorry if this will offend anyone).[/SPOIL]

I think the taboo issues should be in fics, as long as the writer kept the issue tasteful and controlled. Sometimes a writer might overblow it a tad bit.

 

[Literate]

1.) What are your thoughts on taboo issues in fics?

It's okay if its portrayed correctly and revavent to the plot, like mines going to be. But nothing going overboard. Like porn or sex. That just gives me the creeps.

2.) Do you have any taboo issues in your story?

My future story Assassins. Yes, murder. And a bit violence and gore. They have to be there if the fic's all about killing. (Not all, but mostly.)^_^'

3.) Do you think taboo issues shouldn't be in fics?

It's okay because if not it would be boring. Just put a rating if you have it in your fic. ^_^


Oh yeah and Seijiro:

[SPOIL]PS: If you think violence, gore, and death are fine themes to write, but sex is off-limits, and yet you are writing with an M/R rating... that makes no sense.[/SPOIL]

Uh, right. Okay. *wanders off*

~PEACE~

 

[Evanji Axu]

Murder isn't that taboo.

Call me a sick f*cker, but I'm actually fascinated by rape fics. One of my own characters was raped twice. But it just totally ****** me off when some Mary-Sue gets raped and then meets Harley/Sephiroth/Gary-Stu five minutes later and then they have sex. That's just retarded.

As for abortion, as a Catholic I don't like it - in a lot of cases it seems like running away from responsibility. Also, it can eventually be very traumatic for the woman.

...Yes, you may get out the torches and pitchforks now.

 

[Smile Guy]

1.) What are your thoughts on taboo issues in fics?

I really don't like the word "taboo". I think, within reason, everything's fine. And yes, I know that by saying within reason I am thoroughly contradicting myself. You see, it depends how you write it. If you write about the murder, just for the gore; or you write about the rape, just for the sex then it is merely pathetic, rubbish, "taboo". But, if you have it in you to write something so meaningful, so beautiful and so haunting, then that is different.
One of my favourite books of all time is His Dark Materials by Phillip Pullman. And one of the reasons I love it is the very reason that it caused controversy. All the religious people felt it was unbelievably disrespectful describing there God as such a weakling and being overpowered by corruption, but really, if you read into it... it meant something so much more. I suppose my point is, is that if it is dealt with respect and meaning then it is okay. If it isn't just there 'cos it's disgusting, if it isn't unnecessary, but pivotal, meaningful, maybe upsetting but showing truth. Then "taboo" can be used in any way you want.

2.) Do you have any taboo issues in your story?

None in my fan fics here, but I've written a few personal "taboo" issues for practice. I remember a violent scene with a fight between two brothers who had been split up in childhood for example.

3.) Do you think taboo issues shouldn't be in fics?

No way. Controversy is one of my favourite words. If there weren't any taboo issues then fics would be boring, uninspiring and never pushing themselves to the limits. There would be far too many "Mary-Sues"

 

[Ledian_X]

Nah, no need for torches and pitchforks. Your views are fine and all. I just didn't go into gritty detail about Jenna's rape. Here's the basics:

The rape happened years ago and the incident triggered her incinerary powers. Especially when said rapist walked around school acting like a big shot. He approached her and then she almost burned down the school. Fast forward to ten years later...

Jenna, after therapy has become the leader of the next generation of Earth's heroes. She confronts her rapist and now she's dating an alien (M'anta). She's now a rape survivor but she has to know she could love someone in that way. So, to give her closre and advance the plot, I did a scene in chapter 7 where she was unsure what she wanted and found herself being caught up in the moment when kissing M'anta. M'anta was like "Are you sure about this?"

She says yes and well...one thing leads to another. They talk about it afterwards and [spoil]Her rapist Baxter was watching the whole thing under cloak. He breaks into the mansion and they have a confrontation where he dies.[/spoil]

So, as you can see, that isn't Mary Sue ish. The scene advanced the plot because Baxter killed M'anta, Aquita and Shrall's dad. It's been several years since the incident and now Jenna is a rape survivor. So, now she had to find out if she could love someone in that way. I didn't show anything that would constitute porn. Course someone a while back had a problem with it. But, I explained it and things worked out.

As for abortion, I didn't really use the issue itself. But, there was an abortion attempt and that would have killed Aquita, who was pregnant. Mother and child are linked telepathically. Abortion's lethal to Aquans That advanced the plot because it lead to the guy who tried to do it's interrogation and jail time.

Those were just two ways of dealing with thw two issues I mentioned. But, ya...that is retarded that if seconds after she asks for sex. That's just lame. I use the scenes to advance the plots but I don't get why some people would have problems with it.

Murder's not that taboo. I mean my story has a two person body count. Not that bloody. I only say that because other stories are bloodier. But ya, I think I handled the issues well. Not gonna post the scenes. Just look for yourselves. The execution's important. Don't know why people'd get hot and bothered over it as long as it's realistic. I've known people that had things happen. It's unfortunately a part of life and I make it a point in my story to make it realistic.

Despite having fantastic powers, they're still mortal.

LX

 

[Lady Myuu]

I've only read a couple posts but I wanted to ramble soo...

warning, I am talking about mature material. Such as sexual abuse, death and things little kiddies may not like.

1.) What are your thoughts on taboo issues in fics?

I'll tell someone right off, I hate rape fics that are just that, rape fics, or worse, the victim FALLS IN LOVE WITH THE ASSULTER?

Rape isn't something I take lightly, as my family has had history with it and it is a very horrible and terrible thing. As I believe sex is a act between two people who want to share the rest of their lives togather (I believe in after marrige sex, though my fics don't always reflect that.) I don't see it as some sort of easy access pleasure like TV or video games.

Murder happens everyday, though so does rape... what was the stats? every five seconds a woman is being raped? Something horrid like that.

I don't think any one has the right to take the life of another, at least out of the laws hands at least. Yes this can be argued to death but when I simplify it thats what I believe.

Homosexuality is rather common in fics now days, and is more and more less taboo and shunned. Its becoming widly accepted even though yes I will admit.

I don't agree with it.

But thats my personal opinion about it. Nothing more for me to explain as I don't like upsetting people, its just where my beliefs lay.



2.) Do you have any taboo issues in your story?


Yes, death is in my almost complete one. Nothing really major about it as its realisitic and makes for a good story.

I have written about rape, not detail or anything but it has accured and my victems always survive. THey are not always female either. My villians are not always the usually OH I KILLZ YOU NOW! or evil mastermind.

They are sick people, they do bad things. Its a matter of how one deals with these bad thigns and continues to strive for justice and good. I don't just have rape for rape, character devolpment, history and realism is very importent to me, I want my characters to come across believible.

I always give good warnings in my fics, as I've been writing a very dark one lately (not Into my woods, the other one.)


I have had homosexuality in fics as well, pokemon ones I believe. None were ever on here. Its complicated here and while I don't want to come across as a hypicrite I'll try to explain. While my beliefs in this world are christian, I havn't seen any real sign of chritianity in the pokemon world and decided, maybe perhaps the morals there are different then the ones I have taken.

I do like thinking outside the box. Again its kind of a weird thought for me but I just... find the whole idea interesting to say the least. Not sure its that rebelous side or something. Oh great I sound like a hypicrite...


and one last thing... yes I have written lemons... but I was going through a faze...



3.) Do you think taboo issues shouldn't be in fics?

People can write whatever they want to write, as long as it doesn't deractly assult me. Such as claiming I'm a hypicrite (oh there it shows up again) and such things. ITs a matter of respect to me, I respect people and I do suspect other to do the same.

I hate it when stories claim to be true and lie too...

anyway... I don't mind taboos o.o there fun to read about sometimes.

 

[Kiyohime]

I prefer to write about homosexual relationships because the lines are more blurred--there's no clear-cut gender roles. I try to portray it in an equal light as straight relationships--I write about straight relationships too, don't get me wrong..but I want to try to showcase both in an equal light--there's no clear cut black or white, good or bad. People are just people.


Iceking sure knows me well...I have a lot of issues with poorly handled rape fics and rape just for the sake of rape but won't go into them because that'd just be tooting the horn--let's just call it "personal issues" and leave it at that. I'm not unreasonably bothered by how Ledian X does it, because he's handled it with senstivity and reason, and that's okay by me.

I don't even touch abortion because it's so easy to spark off a firestorm of controversy...it's still a touchy issue for a good part of the world.

Death, violence...meh, there's many kinds of violence, more violence, and then there's Saw and the Hostel-style violence. I touch into standard violence, such as Pokemon assaulting humans or each other, and I've even done a big grisly scene involving soldiers firing at each other in a bombed-out building and dying, so I have no aversion to that type of violence. Torture scares me away a little, however.

 

[Ozzie]

One of my favorite works of short fiction, or at least one that's stayed with me for years and years, is the telling of rape in action. The story spans possibly an hour of a girl's life, where the premise is she goes to visit her dad for the summer (her parents are separated and her mother apparently has custody), but when they get in an argument she storms off into the night. Then she's attacked in the dark street and raped in an alley, where her father finds her afterwards. It was graphic but powerful, and in the end, a story about love (for her father) and regret, not about crime.

Why do I bring this up? Because in my opinion, rape can be used to reach incredibly tasteful ends. Taboo is not taboo - it's poignant and, often, a fantastic tool for connecting with your audience on a very, very personal level. It almost immediately demands introspection from the reader.

So yes, of course, I think "taboo" is perfectly welcome in literature.

Psh. A part of me is taboo, I suppose... I = bisexual. The main character in the fic I'm currently writing is bisexual, and there's almost certainly going to be a female on female love scene. Now that's two taboos with one stone, eh? I think homosexuality is a perfectly natural, normal thing, and to me it's not a taboo subject at all. Neither is sex - everybody does it. I mean, come on. It happens, it's (often) enjoyable, and I don't think anyone really objects to its continued presence in the world of creative writing.

Murder... well... that's good to go, too. I don't often write about it because I don't write stories like that - my works are all closer to 'slice of life' pieces, where perfectly normal things happen but are explored on many levels. Or your classic adventure fics, where everyone ends up jolly good at the end, but no one's ever killed. I don't object to murder in fics at all, though, and I have no problem reading it, I'm just too happy-go-lucky to write it myself.

Abortion? If you need to write about it, well... go ahead. Again, I don't often touch on these dark topics. It's just not my genre, dig? But I believe in abortion rights in real life, and I believe in the writer's right to include abortion in their stories if they'd like.

And... I'm out. I enjoyed this, though. Very interesting thread. Kudos for your bravery in opening up such a controversial topic, Ledian X. :]

 

[Sike Saner]

*shrugs* In the end, taboo is really in the eye of the beholder. You can try not to offend people, yet you may still offend someone inadvertently. Things that are utterly revolting, tasteless, or immoral in the eyes of some won't necessarily faze everyone.

Where I personally stand on taboos is that I just don't hold any. I don't think that a certain subject matter should, by default, not be used in writing. Yes, it may offend some people, but that's a risk that occurs very readily in virtually any form of expression. And yes, the subject matter might be of a nature that's frowned upon as being a cliche or something associated with bad writing. But the way I see it, it's not the subject matter that makes a bad story - it's the writer. It's a poor worksman who blames the tools, after all.

Whether subject matter is taboo is subjective to the individual reader, the individual writer, and the individual story. Therefore, it can really only be reckoned on a case-by-case basis; it's not something that can properly be generalized or regulated.

I say, write what you want, and what you can. If you think you might offend someone with your material, put up disclaimers and warnings before fics and individual chapters thereof containing potentially offensive material so that persons who are disturbed by what you're writing can get the fair warning they need to be able to read with caution. I feel that it's an individual's responsibility to try and keep things they don't want out of their minds wherever they can; warnings help people to do just that.

A lot of taboos are as mortal as we are, remember that. How many of yesterday's taboos have fallen out of fashion? From person to person, from context to context, and from age to age, taboo is subjective. The one correct way to deal with it is that there is no one correct way to deal with it.

 

[Seiryu]

1.) What are your thoughts on taboo issues in fics?

Well, what's "taboo" changes from person to person. An extreme conservative would have lots more problems with things like homosexuality or rape or whatever in literature than a liberal such as myself. There are very few things that would keep me from reading something that has grabbed my interest in the first place.

However, there is still something in particular that turns me off from fanfics: sex. Yeah, I know it exists, but I just can't stand it when someone writes some horribly explicit sex scene that seems more like proof that the author knows twenty-some different terms for the same private part than anything remotely tasteful. Not to mention when it's done like five times in the first three or four _short_ chapters. =/

2.) Do you have any taboo issues in your story?

*looks appalled* Taboo issues? In MY stories? *grins maniacally* Of course. >=D

Murder? Death? Check for practically all stories I've ever worked on. Of course, there's on in particular that will have quite a bit more than the others, but it's present in all of them too.

Homosexuality? Check. One fairly minor pokémon character in one of my works is homosexual. Fortunately, I've decided to keep him in that minor role throughout the story, as I'm not quite sure how to deal with it (though I'll do my best with him!).

And as far as romantic taboo goes...well, I dunno if there's even a popular name for it. I've heard the term "yiff," but I've also heard that in reference to anthro porn, and I'm pretty sure in this case it only really deals with the sexual interaction. The deal here is interspecies romance. You know the above mentioned homosexual pokémon? Yeah well, he's actually attracted to his own trainer. It's not just there, either; it's part of the basis of the planned romantic subplot in the series, and it happens in at least half of my other planned works; the ones in which it does not occur do not have any romantic subplot whatsoever--or at least, not one that lasts very long or has any significance to the overall plot. (Don't worry though; for those of you who're faint of heart or are turned away by this, I'll be sure to put up a warning beforehand and I won't be too explicit about the more...tense moments. xp)

Rape and abortion don't have a place in my fics, but I do have a serial killer in one! ^..^

3.) Do you think taboo issues shouldn't be in fics?

Keh...take a look above. I should think the answer would be quite self-explanatory. Basically, if they can be written in well and the author wants them there, then I say by all means, let the person put it up!

 

[The Big Al]

Taboo issues in fics? Find with me I'm the kind of person who loved "The Constant Gardener" and "Syriana". If you can bring an ugly issue to the forefront with a fic and not sugarcoat it or make it look sloppy, I'm all for it.

Taboo issues in my fics? In the one I'm writing one of the main characters was subject to genetic alterations and I know after the "animal/human hybrids" this could go as a taboo issue.

Taboo issues shouldn't be in fics. Only if they're sugarcoated and done in a sloppy way. It kind of dumbs down the issue then.

 

[Willow's Tara]

Well, lately I been trying new styles, like there is R rated story which I even finished the first chapter that actually shows sex (Not rape) and it is very graphic, there a reason for the story thought.

I also have a story called, Lesbian, I wanted to try it new with two new lesbians who are almost accepted in thier school but a bunch of eight graders shun them and split the grades.

And then there Touched rated M. It on this forum, in the non pokemon fic right now. Touched deals with the issue of rape, now we don't see Kirsten, one of the main characters, get raped, all we see is someone leaning over her before Channa, another main character, slams him off her. Now naturally, Kirsty is traumatize by the ordeal and can't stand been around males and is very confused.

Spoiler

Later in the story, Kirsten is so confused that she turns against Channa, the one who saved her, believing he did rape her, only because they had a past, one that invloved Channa was in love with her and Kirsten couldn't talk to him anymore.

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Also later the in the story, the other main characters Jalisa and Cassie, get and almost raped, so does Tahlia, noyl two out of the five don't (Kristen and Kirsten).
I tried to make it emotional as I can, but reviewers have told me there isn't enough emotions (There a small scene with Tahlia and Kirsten, which they bond more, and no they don't get togther, they remain friends).

I think rape is something that should be done maturely and well, as one said before it wouldn't makle sense if the victim fell in love with the rapist.


Althought, I may redo some of the later scenes in my story..