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Takehiko Inoue Plagiarism?

Discussion in 'Alternate Manga Discussion (Hidden)' started by That Scary Clefairy, Nov 23, 2005.

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  1. That Scary Clefairy

    That Scary Clefairy I <3 HK & BF

    It seems he has been using photograh to his drawings for Slam Dunk. he an essay about the whole thing.

    Also there is comparison picture for you to get the idea.
    http://www.kmib.co.kr/online_image/2005/1113/20051113s22.jpg

    Tell me what you think of this?
     
  2. Kokukirin

    Kokukirin Guest

    I don't mind it at all. Slam Dunk is still great without those pictures.

    Besides, isn't it normal to have pictures in a basketball manga to resemble photos of basketball players? Since when is any manga completely original anyways.
     
  3. That Scary Clefairy

    That Scary Clefairy I <3 HK & BF

    True, photo do help but only for references. To draw the exact same pose from a photograph defeat the purpose of becoming a good artist. Since i'm majoring as an artist/cartoonist, I've learned that copying photographs isn't the best road to becomeing a true and good artist. It's as if you haven't learned anything but to copy a piece of work and only focus on details. to learn HOW TO DRAW (w/o relying on photos or other works) and then creating the details is a much better artist.

    In basket ball, there is so much movement involve that Inoue could of come up with poses on his own. He doesn't derserve to stoop so low to copy EXACT pose and image(with alternations) from another photo.

    I use to copy drawing too but I soon realize that i've accomplish nothing and so I started to draw from my own imagination and from real life observations as well as learn various drawing techniques.

    This is how I see it.
     
  4. HK

    HK Radiance of Shadows

    Man, this really saddens the hell out of me. Inoue is such a great artist that, like you said TSC, he doesn't have to copy exactly as they are drawn. Suffice to say I haven't read Slam Dunk myself, but I have read his other basketball manga, REAL, and I do understand why this guy is so good. But to have something as so small as just simply tracing photos and not coming up with original poses himself... ugh.
     
  5. ddrt

    ddrt Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I love how they think they have the copyright to a ****ING POSE! Everyone makes a jump shot/layup/dunk/etc. Everyone uses reference photos. On top of that He made them his own, it becomes public domain.

    EDIT: I'm sorry, but has the author of that quote ever seen a basketball game? with the exception of the first picture and charles barkley's picture I've seen those moves a thousand if not a million times in any one basketball game. It could be anything, he most likely didn't trace it and he's still an amazing artist. Has anyone seen the reference video for obata? he takes many pictures from Go professionals and uses them in the manga. Death note? totally! look through the art book and then go watch his vid on his reference. The only artist I can think of who doesn't rely heavily on reference is the artist of Blade of the Immortal, Hiroaki Samura. It's a shame that the person wrote plagarism. In Definition: copying of another's work. I sure as hell didn't see charles barkley in Slam dunk... did you? *oh, and who gives a flying crap about the photographers? do you think even half of them are still taking photos for Tops trading cards? no.*
     
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  6. ddrt

    ddrt Well-Known Member

    however it IS a good starting point for young artist who don't have the resources like an art teacher
    I'd agree with you but if you go read vagabond you'll see that he is a great artist, and I very much doubt that he copied pictures of samura... seeing as though we don't have any action photos because camera's didn't exist when musashi was alive.
    I used to copy art, and now I don't have to draw stick figures. My teachers wanted to see how I drew my comics and I showed them from start to finish a single page and they couldn't figure it out. There is a whole world out there filled with different people and to speak as if there is one singular path to the destination of "artist" (whatever that is) would be a cry of war against that very goal.
     
  7. TsukiMirage

    TsukiMirage Rikudou Master

    I honestly don't see how this is plagiarism? If it was another person's work, Then sure, But they're just pictures. It's like two or three panels in the whole story. It's not like every single page is a guy jumping or dunking, So he can obviously draw just fine. So he decided to take it easy on a few pages, Is it all that bad?
     
  8. dash142

    dash142 Beginning Trainer

    It's not really plagiarism, he's only copying the poses. Almost all of the people in his 'copies' look nothing like the people from the photo's anyways.
     
  9. Zabi

    Zabi Not really here.

    Why would someone bump a thread over three years old?
     
  10. ForeverFlame

    ForeverFlame WATER TRUMPETS

    I knew something was up. I was about to make a post saying "OLD NEWS" before reading your post. I didn't even bother reading when this was posted, and I take it ddrt didn't either.
     
  11. ddrt

    ddrt Well-Known Member

    Sorry.... I guess I'm a snorlax... :(
     
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