You do realize games =/= anime?
Weak or not weak, Dragon Rage is a blast of energy that would likely obliterate a non-animated human.
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Team Flare Attacks! The Zygarde at the Prism Tower!! (935)
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Weak or not weak, Dragon Rage is a blast of energy that would likely obliterate a non-animated human.
AuraKshatriya
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While it is a departure from the pure in-game effect of inflicting Confusion, the actual concept of the move itself is ambiguous enough for incapacitation to be somewhat believable. "Confuse" is only present in the international name - originally it's just called "Eerie Light", the implication being that some sort of paranormal flashing lights interfere with the opponent's mind. That can technically be interpreted as them just becoming disorientated, or outright losing consciousness (both of which occurred in this episode).
Plus, humans have often been depicted as far more susceptible to Pokemon moves than Pokemon themselves - just Chimchar biting Ash's arm caused him to bleed, whereas Krookodile using Crunch on Dragonite's arm didn't even break the skin.
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U.N. Owen
In Brightest Day, In Blackest Night ...
On what planet does blast of fire-like energy equal typhoon?
Pokemon version of Earth?
And what makes you think Dragon energy is fire-like? It is clearly more powerful than that.
U.N. Owen
In Brightest Day, In Blackest Night ...
It's more like a concussive blast of fire rather than a blast of heat. Everywhere else including other parts of the anime, dragon rage is depicted as concussive fire.
I've always perceived it as a blast of energy rather than a blast of fire, but to each his own.
Sonic Boom
@JohanSSB4 Twitter
At least Lysandre had the decency to coil Talonflame and Noivern around the body, instead of hanging them up by their wings and talons.
Don't want to hurt the poor things before he commits genocide, after all. That's going too far.
Don't want to hurt the poor things before he commits genocide, after all. That's going too far.
Navin
MALDREAD
Mal's Review:
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Pros:
* "Zettai Akiramenai!" Based OP is based
* Ash helping Alain find his girl - what a bro
* Conflict with real consequences = tension
* Morally grey Alain - I love it. This is why there needs to be more anti-heroes/villains in this show...
* Lysandre is out of his mind
Cons:
* Perhaps less of a con and more of a thought unless it actually wasn't explained, but why is Lysandre trying to crucify Ash and his team..?
* Sending a Skorupi against a Garchomp...smh, no wonder Lysandre needs a lieutenant like Alain
* So...Malva didn't know about Lysandre's intentions? Shame, I was actually hoping for an evil Elite 4
Thoughts:
* Terrorists attack the capital of PokeFrance - **** is getting too real life
* Ecoterrorism gone overboard kids
* Somebody got inspired by Caster from Fate/Zero with them regenerating tentacle spam
Ah, so they are making up for the Kalos League being a B-plot by giving us what can shape up to be an epic and emotional Flare climax. There might yet be an episode in this arc that can top Mega Evolution Act III (the best episode in the XY(&Z) series so far).
9/10
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Pros:
* "Zettai Akiramenai!" Based OP is based
* Ash helping Alain find his girl - what a bro
* Conflict with real consequences = tension
* Morally grey Alain - I love it. This is why there needs to be more anti-heroes/villains in this show...
* Lysandre is out of his mind
Cons:
* Perhaps less of a con and more of a thought unless it actually wasn't explained, but why is Lysandre trying to crucify Ash and his team..?
* Sending a Skorupi against a Garchomp...smh, no wonder Lysandre needs a lieutenant like Alain
* So...Malva didn't know about Lysandre's intentions? Shame, I was actually hoping for an evil Elite 4
Thoughts:
* Terrorists attack the capital of PokeFrance - **** is getting too real life
* Ecoterrorism gone overboard kids
* Somebody got inspired by Caster from Fate/Zero with them regenerating tentacle spam
Ah, so they are making up for the Kalos League being a B-plot by giving us what can shape up to be an epic and emotional Flare climax. There might yet be an episode in this arc that can top Mega Evolution Act III (the best episode in the XY(&Z) series so far).
9/10
Greneuliest808
Future Graduate
Overall, a great setup episode that will lead to a potential emotional climax.
Here is what I liked:
Ash going with Alain to get Mairin
Ash finding out that Alain works for Lysandre and TF
Alain feeling conflicted
Lots of tension
Lysandre becoming a mad man
What I don't like:
Sawyer and the rival trio being in the background just helping civilians
Malva surprised at Lysandre's doings
Overall, a great episode that makes up for the ironic ending to the Kalos League. I will give this score a 9.2/10
Here is what I liked:
Ash going with Alain to get Mairin
Ash finding out that Alain works for Lysandre and TF
Alain feeling conflicted
Lots of tension
Lysandre becoming a mad man
What I don't like:
Sawyer and the rival trio being in the background just helping civilians
Malva surprised at Lysandre's doings
Overall, a great episode that makes up for the ironic ending to the Kalos League. I will give this score a 9.2/10
AuraChannelerChris
Easygoing Luxray.
Ha ha. My DirecTV guide screwed up and the description of the episode doesn't say "Squishy" but "Puni-chan".
And then "Team Flare" is called "Flare-Dan".
And then "Team Flare" is called "Flare-Dan".
Mia Blaze
I'mma gonna Deku in the face, Kacchan
Just saw it on Youtube and I've gotta say, the dub did a pretty good job on this one for the standards the dub is held in by fans.
Alain was as confused and conflicted in voice as he was in the Japanese version. Although some lines didn't match the mouth movements, looking at you Jessie and Bonnie, the rest were pretty close to the original. Overall, a good start to what is one of the best evil team arcs in the history of Pokemon. Can't wait to see what they do with next week's episode, with what transpires in that they will have to deliver.
Alain was as confused and conflicted in voice as he was in the Japanese version. Although some lines didn't match the mouth movements, looking at you Jessie and Bonnie, the rest were pretty close to the original. Overall, a good start to what is one of the best evil team arcs in the history of Pokemon. Can't wait to see what they do with next week's episode, with what transpires in that they will have to deliver.
345ash-greninja
Auto-Memories Doll
To be true, the Team Flare arc was awesome. But the disappointment of the League took over me so I couldn't enjoy it fully.
AuraChannelerChris
Easygoing Luxray.
Not exactly the prettiest sight to see first thing in the morning... *shrugs*
I expected a little more from Alain. He's just in quiet shock.
I'm glad the 1,246 people of the city are safe and the buildings were all conveniently empty. Sceptile is such a hero...handing out blankets.
Real classy, writers. Put Korrina first before every other gym leader just because of aura jackal. Poor Viola had to stick with a butterfly.
Lastly, too much Brooklyn Rage from Z-1. And seriously? His voice remains the same even as a giant slug?
Will Ash die for his sins at last? Oh, wait. Chosen one. Dammit, Lysandre.
Nothingjustgo.
Well-Known Member
I don't know about you guys, but I was in complete shock when they revealed Squishy to be Zygarde. What a magnificent twist
Nerdy McNerdface
Hmph
Flare Dan is right, I think.
Water_Dragon trainer
Shatter Me
This was a pretty decent episode. I kinda like these episodes where everyone works together to stop some big catastrophe.
Not in English. In English they're called Team Flare (especially since "dan" isn't even a word in English).
In any case, in terms of the episode dubbed, it definitely wasn't as cringy as some of the past ones have been. I do feel a little of the tension was left out, but when the voice actors needed to, they brought it. Especially Lysandre...but I could listen to that man's voice all day. It's beyond smooth. Though I love how the narrator feels the need to qualify that Alain is separate from "our heroes".
If you haven't seen any info about Sun and Moon or looked at the information that was released before XYZ began last year then yes, it would be a shock. Probably more than 90% of the forum knew this so it's not exactly one for us.
Although I did like that everyone was all "it's a Zygarde WTF".-----
Did they really need to change how Squishy does its wololo and it's roar when it goes 10%? It's far less menacing in the dub, just sounds like a regular dog. Where's the booming echo at?
Seemed like the episode used purely dub BGM which only really worked for about half the episode tbh. If they touch the VS Team Flare theme in next episode... Voice acting is fine apart from like one or two lines just being said weirdly but that's normal. I believe they changed Blaziken Mask's line from saying they could die if they went to Prism Tower to them being in "mortal danger", which seems to be the more fluffy way of saying the same thing.
Still a good episode by the dub.