Team Skull, Aether Foundation and Plot Discussion Thread [Contains Story Spoilers]

[JVLightningLover]

Well, to be fair, Lysandre was hardly a 'hidden villain' considering he had a huge resemblance to the grunts and overall theme of 'Flare'.

Yeah, calling Lysandre a hidden villain is like calling Blue a hidden jerk; there was never really any question. If you want an example of a hidden villain in a Pokemon game, then Colosseum is a better choice. I don't think we were ever supposed to buy Lysandre as a forward-thinking philanthropist and nothing more.

 

[Julia Artemis]

Yeah I guess, though it totally didn't work for me and made everyone in the game seem really dumb. Lillie seems like if she is the antagonist has a much more complex and compelling reason for doing what she's doing. Really Lysandre is the worst

 

[U.N. Owen]

Due to their use of ghosts types, street gang motif, and name, I would like to see them as the villains who wish to establish peace and order using fear of force. They see these trainers running around as threats to their power, using a cover story to cover their tracks.

 

[clbgolden12]

I just realized, Mimikyu would make a great Pokémon for Team Skull. Aside from being a Ghost-type, Mimikyu looks like it does to try and be accepted, similar to how Skull's main gripe seems to be how they weren't accepted as Trial Captains.

 

[Wryteous]

If we're going with the idea that Guzma and Team Skull are taking vengeance for not being accepted as Trial Captains. Then you have to wonder what exactly they did wrong in order to be rejected.
From what we've seen of Trial Captains and Kahunas, they all appear to be enthusiastic and accepting people just as most Gym Leaders are. The trial challenges themselves seem to be about helping, gaining knowledge and obviously respecting and battling totem pokemon.
So if Guzma was rejected, was it because of a reason that can be seen as sympathetic? Or is he simply a delinquent with no redeemable qualities?

 

[Red and Blue]

Crabrawler or it's evolved form may end up being Guzma's main Pokemon. Guzma's glasses actually resemble Crabrawler's two eyeshapes.

 

[Julia Artemis]

So since we know we're getting new forms of Zygarde and seems like it will play a bigger role in Sun and Moon than it did in X and Y I was thinking how will it effect the plot of the game. There is a big rumor that Zygarde core is inside Lillie's bag and there seems to be something mysterious involving her and the Zygarde cores seem to have weird abilities, I can totally see while Solgaleo and Lunala may be the mascot legendaries but the major force of destruction in the game could be Zygarde, representing the emissary of the continents. Than that could mean Marshadow could be the emissary of the seas. I don't know I haven't totally worked out the kinks but I sense there will be a huge climactic scene way more so than any of the more recent Pokemon games.

 

[Disaster_Lord]

Crabrawler or it's evolved form may end up being Guzma's main Pokemon. Guzma's glasses actually resemble Crabrawler's two eyeshapes.

This would be great to be honest.

 

[Inoshi]

Crabrawler or it's evolved form may end up being Guzma's main Pokemon. Guzma's glasses actually resemble Crabrawler's two eyeshapes.

The grunts also have this shape on their... Helmets?

 

[Julia Artemis]

I was more thinking he's use Pallosand and maybe the evo of Pykumuku

 

[diakyu]

Hmmm, well this is peculiar. The Aether Foundation may very well be the bad guys in a twist. They're structured like an evil team.

 

[Akashin]

Hmmm, well this is peculiar. The Aether Foundation may very well be the bad guys in a twist. They're structured like an evil team.

If they are, the game seems to be doing an okay job of masking that. Their structure aside, they seem relatively on the level.

With that said, the same thing occurred to me. Maybe there is some truth to the idea that Team Skull is a small-time threat being used by a bigger one?

 

[diakyu]

With that said, the same thing occurred to me. Maybe there is some truth to the idea that Team Skull is a small-time threat being used by a bigger one?

Yeah, creating an entire artificial island to protect Pokemon from Team Skull seems like over kill for how small time Skull seems to be.

 

[yuoke]

I actually think in a way team skull and this "enforcer" will basically be your "rivals". At least in the traditional way.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Team Skull looks a lot more like an ordinary group of thugs than they would a big time evil organization, so it's a theory I could definitely buy.

 

[sandtreamftw]

I always had a feeling Team Skull wouldn't be the villains. They seem relatively small scale and not like they'd be too engaging narrative wise. But I actually like this way of masking the true evil team entirely even in marketing. They tried masking the team leader in gen 6, but that didn't really work.

 

[Akashin]

I actually think in a way team skull and this "enforcer" will basically be your "rivals". At least in the traditional way.

I hadn't thought about it, but now that you bring it up, Gladion did sort of look like he could lean in that direction.

 

[Genos]

Seems like Gladion is the rival we deserve. Hope we encounter him several times.

 

[LoveMcQueen5683]

Gladion, to me, looks like the real boss. He's also sexy as hell.

 

[.Aerodactyl.]

What if they pull a ruby/sapphire and in one game, Skull ends up being the main villain team and in the other the aether foundation is?