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Tentacool & Tentacruel! (019)

Lucille

Well-Known Member
Misty's Horsea was pretty cool. Shame no real development happened with it
 

Lord_Dweedle

New Member
lol @ the topless women.

just bought season one of pokemon and re-watching it for first time in years. First thing I noticed as a 21 year old was the topless women..

Curious now, why is it they banned the episode with James costume but not an episode with Topless women?
 

BCVM22

Well-Known Member
...what, these?

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They weren't women. They were long-haired, effeminate men. Notice how none of them have figures even remotely suggesting feminine?
 
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sandy ketchum

Well-Known Member
There aint no nudity in pokemon
 

BCVM22

Well-Known Member
Uh, no. Unequivocally.

Again, if you think that you've stumbled across an almost entirely-naked female in what is a children's series - small differences in what different cultures consider appropriate in such material notwithstanding - and in an episode some sixteen years old at that, I really don't know what to tell you.

They're guys. All of them. This isn't even a discussion.
 

Mudkipz_Lulz

Icy Mudkipz Breeder
Is anybody bothered that the anime has giant pokemon, like this tentacruel and the dragonite in the episode with Bill, but the games set them to exact heights and weights? I think the anime proves there are many different sized pokemon, such as Ash and Gary's Krabby, but the games ignore this. Just curious, btw I love this episode, classic! :)
 

Kutie Pie

"It is my destiny."
While the previous ban may have been a bit silly since they could've easily edited a couple of scenes out and aired it from the start (yet the airtime for the episode was shorter than it should be), it's a bit justifiable for the time. It being a filler that no one would really miss doesn't hurt (the ending of this episode would make a small callback to the previous episode, but it's easy to handwave). This episode, however, was banned not at first, but shortly after 9/11 for a few years. The reason was because of the destruction of a town that was going on in this episode. I understand the thought of keeping the sensitivity of the tragedy in check to prevent opening wounds, but personally, I don't see how there was a good reason why the episode was temporarily banned. Remember episode 17 where Ekans said there's no such thing as a bad Pokémon—the only reason Tentacool and Tentacruel did what they did was because they were angry at the destruction of their home. The violence was justified, albeit rather harsh; but that helps get the point across, sort of. This was an environmental message, more-or-less, in being courteous of a specific habitat, or you're going to hurt both the inhabitants living there and yourself. If someone wants to build a hotel in the ocean, fine, they just shouldn't destroy a habitat that's currently living there and find a way to make it co-exist.

Isn't that most of the message of Pokémon, in that it is possible for humans and Pokémon to co-exist peacefully?

So the episode picks up where we left Ash and the gang, and they missed a boat off the island. While they're waiting, an injured Horsea shows up to warn them about the impending doom, but the boat explodes before they could decipher the message. The sailors onboard where paralyzed by the Tentacool stings, which was probably a warning by the Tentacool to the humans, mostly Nastina. She lives up to her name to a “T”. Compared to her cousin who was just being a bitch to the old man and taunting him about his rent, she is actually trying to kill Pokémon just because they were interfering with the construction of the hotel situated in the ocean. (I personally have to question how it is 4KIDS never seemed to care that Nastina is surrounded by bishounen males in speedos. Very creepy, if you ask me.) She doesn't seem to have any vendetta against the Tentacool outside of the fact that “they're disgusting”, “inedible”, and “hurting her profits”.

In the meantime, Misty goes out of her way to show she loves Water Pokémon (though she fears Gyarados, but that wasn't explicitly stated until Chronicles) by fawning over Horsea and saying that Tentacool are “cute”. I get where she's coming from, but my reactions are similar to Ash and Brock's when she says that. So this is the episode where we get a bit of character development from Misty—I say “a bit” because the only character development she gets is catching a new team member and realizing she's not that great of a Water Pokémon trainer as she would've liked. How that ties in to her climbing a tall tower to speak to Tentacruel, I don't know.

Speaking of, how does the stun spore make a Tentacool evolve into a giant Tentacruel? Yeah, it's been a while since we had a Pokémon evolve, but still, that's got to be some radioactive stuff. Unless it's a reference to how some real-life jellyfish (notably the lion's mane) can be larger than normal, and even have tentacles a hundred feet-or-so long? Hard to say, but it was that kind of plot convenience (gee, that happens a lot) that allows it to go berserk and destroy the town that would make a Gyarados proud. Or envious. The one thing that confuses me a bit is how they were able to use Meowth to talk to everyone, let alone know he was able to speak the human language. This episode made me think for a while that Tentacool and Tentacruel might have been Psychic, especially since they were shooting laser beams from their jewels which far as I know never happens again in later encounters.

Though according to Bulbapedia, it was reminiscent of a scene from Independence Day where an alien speaks to the humans using a scientist—buuuuut I haven't seen the movie, so I can't say this with great certainty. But also according to Bulbapedia (and I believe a couple other people here), the episode's script was rewritten a bit because of the skip of the previous episode, so in actuality, this episode does indeed reference back to the previous episode. But oh well, what was done here still worked fine anyway. It wasn't like anything important to the actual show's plot itself was removed or changed in the process.

I have to talk about Horsea for a quick moment. It didn't really do much besides try to tell Ash, Misty and Brock about the Tentacool. Guess the only reason Tentacruel smacked it was because it took the side of humans. (Gee, this would sound a bit familiar in the future...) I don't see how Horsea should've been apologized to and thanked for being a hero. Had it actually tried to warn on a bigger scale except shooting ink into the water once in front of Ash and the others, maybe it would've made sense, but otherwise, all it did was just yell at Tentacruel to knock it off. Pikachu and the others were doing more than it.

Oh well, someone has to be the token cute character of the day.

Nastina should've gotten a bit more than what happened to her especially since she was still attacking Tentacruel after it turns it back on the town, but oh well. We never see her again anyway, so we can at least assume she doesn't get her hotel built.

So it's not a bad episode, but it wasn't great, either. It had a nice message and all, but it wasn't full of “oomph”. The destruction of the city was the highlight of the episode to keep it from being nearly forgettable/dull like the previous episode, and that was it. Next episode, however, has a bit more to it that I remember being enjoyable while having a consistent story (for a filler episode), but also mysteriously beautiful.

Though perhaps it's best not to question a few things to keep it that way. Some things just were never explained and probably never will be.
 
After the part where Meowth was being used as a puppet so Tentacruel could communicate, I kept thinking that there was a more recent episode (I think a Diamond And Pearl episode?) where another Pokemon was using Meowth to communicate with humans.
 

Lorde

Let's go to the beach, each.
Horsea was adorable; it was my favorite Water-type back in OS, so I was happy that it debuted here. It had a lot of potential too. Alas. Anyway, I'm glad Misty was proactive here and that Nastina lady made me furious, and yet I also found her entertaining. Episodes that focus on Pokemon retaliating are always good.
 

Pokegirl Fan~

Liko>>>>>Ash
I love how Misty took charge and saved the day in this episode by calming down the giant Tentacruel. I also loved that she caught that cute Horsea. 9/10
 

Gillachu

Banned
Misty did what the Pokemon couldn't do so good for her and I swear the destruction in this episode was intense even for OS's standards.
 

Mrs. Oreo

Banned
I liked how the Tentacools rebelled to stop Nastina's plans, but I think they caused too much destruction. Horsea was so cute however, and I liked how he warned Ash and friends using ink drawings. I'm glad Misty caught Horsea too. ^^
 
My favorite scenes: Pikachu and the others flying to where the giant Tentacruel was + Misty begging Tentacruel to stop his rampage.
 

Mrs. Oreo

Banned
My favorite scenes: Pikachu and the others flying to where the giant Tentacruel was + Misty begging Tentacruel to stop his rampage.

I loved seeing Pikachu on Pidgeotto and I remember how that clip was also shown in the opening theme song hee hee. And at least Brock's Zubat was also involved in that scene. :]
 

JudySpell

Banned
I thought Horsea getting a black eye was messed up & the Tentacool rampage scenes were the highlight for me. I was relieved when Misty got Horsea. 8/10
 

Wednesdayz

Meowth fanatic
Instead of Misty catching Horsea, I wish she had gotten a Tentacool here. I know that even if she had it might not have done much, but Horsea was just so boring. Tentacool > it.
 

Leonhart

Imagineer
Obaba was such a greedy old hag, and her anger at the wild Menokurage ruining her planned resort would've been understandable if she hadn't been building in their territory. I liked when the chemicals in the sea made Menokurage evolve into a giant Dokukurage, and thankfully Kasumi got Tattu.
 
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