The Artists' Café

[Infinity]

The Artists' Café

Evanji Axu had this idea first so give credit to her if anything. I've been asking around and other Serebii members tend to agree. Wouldn't it be nice for artists to have a little café sub-forum for the general discussion and questions of art in general including spriting and comic techniques.

The realm of art is so deep. With the advent of digital art, art has basically unlimited boundaries for the imagination. Many people are trying to become well established comic authors too, I think it would be to their benefit that they could freely ask any questions and improve. It could also help newbie artists like myself to learn how to master techniques such as blurring, smudging, and airbrushing.

Another thing it could help is to enhance the overall community of Serebii artists. To pick up a new friend and to help each other become respected artists in their own respects.

If not at the moment, how much support do we need here for it? I am pretty confident that we could attain such support for whatever your expectations are.

Thank you for your time.

 

[Blues]

Sounds like a good idea, an artist's cafe would help new artists when they need help.

 

[Ilex]

I have been thinking about this for a long time now. It would include polls also. This could inspire people into doing fan art and it would help people become better artists. But "Artist cafe" sounds wrong... maybe "Fan Art Discussions" or something. Thumbs up on this idea.

*Waits for the 'Omg no mroe fan spam froums!!!" comments*

 

[Guitar dude bill]

It's a good idea which I've been thinking about for a long time. But you can however, discuss it in the main forum. But I think it's a good idea.

 

[Infinity]

It's a good idea which I've been thinking about for a long time. But you can however, discuss it in the main forum. But I think it's a good idea.

'Tis only fair, besides, it'd help break the ice for people and perchance more people would get feedback on whatever they do.

 

[RaZoR LeAf]

The main concern is that the Sprite and Comics forums are already so full of spam, people replying with rubbish and posts that aren't useful, that a cafe thread would just be a spam pit.

 

[Joe Vega #4]

Lemme see... we have a Fan Art Forum, and three sub-forums, referred to as Fan Art Requests, Fan Sprites, & Fan Comics. I'd say we already have enough sub-forums for Fan Art. I'd give just the same reply to the Comic Café idea from blueguy. I'd stick to... well, a Sticky in the Main Forum. It'd fit there, as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Ilex]

The main concern is that the Sprite and Comics forums are already so full of spam, people replying with rubbish and posts that aren't useful, that a cafe thread would just be a spam pit.

Yes, a cafe thread would be a spam pit(Example), but a sub-forum wouldn't, as it would be more organized. There would be threads on giving tips and opinions, here are some examples that I pulled out of my head:

Tips on keeping a sprite thread from dying
Helpful tips on Oekaki drawing
Black outlines or all-colour?
Which form of art are you best in?

Lemme see... we have a Fan Art Forum, and three sub-forums, referred to as Fan Art Requests, Fan Sprites, & Fan Comics. I'd say we already have enough sub-forums for Fan Art. I'd give just the same reply to the Comic Café idea from blueguy. I'd stick to... well, a Sticky in the Main Forum. It'd fit there, as far as I'm concerned.

Having alot of sub-forums isn't an issue. It just proves how popular and active the forum is. A sticky in the main forum would be far too unorganized to hold all the topics that would be going on (Not to mention the spam).

 

[Bulk]

I like this idea. It'd be nice just chat about art and such without having to make a certain thread/contest which you then have to keep checking on daily ect. This would be a nice addition to the forums.

 

[Infinity]

In any forum on here you're going to get SPAM. Like Ilex said it'd help unclutter all of that. The Fan Art forum isn't a discussion fourm and with that fact things do get ugly from time to time.

Let's say someone was going to start up a comic with a certain theme, cast, etc. and they wanted some quick feedback and ideas with what they should or shouldn't do. If you were to ask that in the Misc. Discussion on Serebii it would seem out of place and in the Fan Comic sub-forum, you can't make a thread unless it is a comic.

Whatever support is needed to get a sub-forum, this will get it.

 

[~Iron-Vaati~]

So, sorta like the spriter's lounge at PC?

Sounds coo' to me.

 

[Beaniebabie]

Yea, a great idea! especially for those who want ideas for their art or want comments

 

[Mastercougar]

I've been saying this for a long time. Fan Art, especially Fan Comics, has become as much of a community as has Fanfiction, and as such it really needs to have its own discussion forum.

 

[Infinity]

So, sorta like the spriter's lounge at PC?

Sounds coo' to me.

Yes, but it could cover the entire range of the Fan Art forum here. It's quite obvious that we want it, what say you, Serebii?

 

[Solid Kirby]

I agree with this completely. An Artist's Café would be a great idea. It could also serve as a preveiw forum, where you could showcase outlines of your next piece. You can use it to ask for people's opinions on what you should do next in your comic, and all of that good stuff. Like the Author's Cafe.

...It's a shame that staff bias perfers Typing down a story that tells someone about a character over an actual drawing of a character. D=

>_> <_<

FORE!

*bumps the thread*

 

[Shining Mew]

http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=103719
http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=96179


Am I the only one getting the feeling art-related cafes WONT happen?

Theyd just be spam holes.. regardless of organization or whatever. Fan art forums are already spamtastic, lets not promote it please. I can only imagine all of the threads like "zomgz how do i make a trainer card?"

I dont think its worth it.

 

[Infinity]

A forum is not a cause of SPAM, the people who SPAM are the cause. From what I see on SPPf they are dealt with accordingly.

What about those who act as a community? There are some bad apples in the group, but will it ruin an entire forum?

More or less you will get SPAM wherever you go in these forums, I don't think it would be as much of a problem if people decided to read the rules and stickies.

Look at all of the competent people on the Fan Art forums... To deny us something because of what a couple people do is wrong.

If the Fan Fiction forum can get this through popular support, so will we.

Look at the Author's Café, I don't see it to be that spammy, I see it to be a functioning sub-forum. The Fan Art forum is more than double the size of the Fan Fiction Forum and I am sure we could eventually pull more than double the support.

 

[JoshYEAH]

A forum is not a cause of SPAM, the people who SPAM are the cause. From what I see on SPPf they are dealt with accordingly.

That is what the point is not. The point is, the cafe's will become a spam fest, resulting in more work for an already stretched span of moderators.

What about those who act as a community? There are some bad apples in the group, but will it ruin an entire forum?

In short, Yes.

More or less you will get SPAM wherever you go in these forums, I don't think it would be as much of a problem if people decided to read the rules and stickies.

Yet they do not, and will not. Great, your point is null then.

Look at all of the competent people on the Fan Art forums... To deny us something because of what a couple people do is wrong.

I want a gun, a couple of people use guns in a manner that is unethical, as a result, I cannot have a gun. Logic is fun.

If the Fan Fiction forum can get this through popular support, so will we.

Orly?

Look at the Author's Café, I don't see it to be that spammy, I see it to be a functioning sub-forum. The Fan Art forum is more than double the size of the Fan Fiction Forum and I am sure we could eventually pull more than double the support.

That is becuase the fan fiction forum, for the most part, is full of people who are adept writers, and can discuss how to get better. In all honesty, what will be discussed in the fan art forum? Give me ten (that seems like a high number, however it is low when you think about what a forum needs to thrive) examples of what you can discuss in a fan art cafe forum that cannot be discussed in a thread made by an artist already. I take it you'll want to talk about techniques so that you can improve, yet you do this anyway in the threads where you post your art. All in all, there is no poing in having a forum for something that is discussed already in threads elsewhere.

So as you can see, in my opinion, no.

-Josh

 

[Beaniebabie]

Well, why dont you guyz put this forward to serebii or one of the moderators? Im sure they wouold figure something out....

 

[Infinity]

Give me some time on the rebuttal Josh, you're making me think...

I am sure Serebii and the moderating team have seen things supporting this. All we need to now do is wait...