The Club Battle Finale: A Heroes Outcome! (703)

[WaterShuriken]

Langley also said the same thing about Ash. They both did have their share of "luck" in this tournament. Call it being a sore loser, or w/e as they only made Top 8, and Top 16 respectively..while Iris won, and Ash got runner-up.

It's not terribly surprising considering apparently static activating has been considered "luck" in the past. When Ash was battling Volkner's Electivire, and static activated there. Flint said that luck was a part of battling too.

I am surprised that Static didn't get activated when Pikachu battled Excadrill, but I suppose it is only a 30% chance. The probably didn't want to be redundant either.

Yup, in my opinion Pikachu would have won if Static activated. He got hit with Drill Run, Metal Claw, and Dig and not one Static activation.

 

[Yeul]

Yup, in my opinion Pikachu would have won if Static activated. He got hit with Drill Run, Metal Claw, and Dig and not one Static activation.

Static isn't always the be-all end-all of battles, and because Excadrill's part Ground type he might have more resistance to paralysis than other Pokemon who don't have that immunity/resistance/what have you. Also, has Static affecting a Ground type even happened before? Even if Drill's mobility has decreased, that doesn't mean his defense against Pikachu's not very effective attacks have been lowered....

*five minutes later*

...Blahblahblah, Pikachu had no chance, blahblahblah, let's positive thinking, at least he's not Lord Godchu with his Thunder Armor on his terrible Swellow, blahblahblah...

 

[WaterShuriken]

Static isn't always the be-all end-all of battles, and because Excadrill's part Ground type he might have more resistance to paralysis than other Pokemon who don't have that immunity/resistance/what have you. Also, has Static affecting a Ground type even happened before? Even if Drill's mobility has decreased, that doesn't mean his defense against Pikachu's not very effective attacks have been lowered....

*five minutes later*

...Blahblahblah, Pikachu had no chance, blahblahblah, let's positive thinking, at least he's not Lord Godchu with his Thunder Armor on his terrible Swellow, blahblahblah...

Uh I think you accidentally double posted...
Being a certain type does not give you resistance to being paralyzed by Static. Yes Pikachu's Static has paralyzed ground types, If I recall correctly it Paralyzed Roark's Onix in on of Ash's battles. While being Paralyzed may have not lowered Excadrill's defenses, it would have left him more open to Iron Tails in the face.

 

[Yeul]

Uh I think you accidentally double posted...
Being a certain type does not give you resistance to being paralyzed by Static. Yes Pikachu's Static has paralyzed ground types, If I recall correctly it Paralyzed Roark's Onix in on of Ash's battles. While being Paralyzed may have not lowered Excadrill's defenses, it would have left him more open to Iron Tails in the face.

Yeah, which I deleted just after I accidentally double posted, what of it?
Roark's Onix (lol1pokemon) was weak/neutral to Iron Tail on account of it being part Rock type, and if Excadrill got paralyzed that doesn't mean he's completely immobile. If Pikachu started spamming Iron Tail then Iris would probably scream out Excadrill's name and lead the iron mole into getting some flashback of his time with Iris, culminating in him going all Eva-Unit 01 on Pikachu and winning the tourney anyways. That is, if it uses the terrane to start a sandstorm and use Sand Force to boost his STAB on moves like Metal Burst, which knocks out Pikachu because the rodent can't see in the storm.
Iris won, get over it.

 

[WaterShuriken]

Yeah, which I deleted just after I accidentally double posted, what of it?
Roark's Onix (lol1pokemon) was weak/neutral to Iron Tail on account of it being part Rock type, and if Excadrill got paralyzed that doesn't mean he's completely immobile. If Pikachu started spamming Iron Tail then Iris would probably scream out Excadrill's name and lead the iron mole into getting some flashback of his time with Iris, culminating in him going all Eva-Unit 01 on Pikachu and winning the tourney anyways. That is, if it uses the terrane to start a sandstorm and use Sand Force to boost his STAB on moves like Metal Burst, which knocks out Pikachu because the rodent can't see in the storm.
Iris won, get over it.

I have no problem with Iris winning, i was just stating that if Static would have activated then Pikachu would have had a higher chance of winning. So stop being so darn rude, there's no need for it.

 

[SilverPeregrine]

For you, I'm fine with it, Iris is a good trainer and not a newb, the fight was awesome I was entertained, don't really care who lost, its not like Takuto came and cleaned him with Latios and Darkrai.

Just to touch on that quickly, that was a horrible battle. Even worst than this battle. I mean in this battle, at least pikachu put up an acceptable fight. But in that battle with Takuto, the writers will crapped on Ash and his team. Of ALL his pokemon, he puts that team together after he just finished battling Paul. That was a spit in the face to all the watchers of the Sinnoh league. Legendaries or not, they could have at least given Ash the benefit of putting up a decent team to take him on.

Now back to the comment of this battle. Newb or not, she clearly hasn't traveled outside of the unova region. Ash has come up with soo many strategies over the previous leagues and even has a larger move set than the others. In this battle, Ash easily could have owned this battle with using pikachu's moves of agility, iron tail, quick attack, and electro ball. I only say this because Ash for some reason still have not learned to switch his pokemon move set per battle unlike Paul did in the Sinnoh league.

Just don't use pikachu anymore if they are going to reset him in every league. Oh well... the writers are horrible for most of the travel until it gets to certain battles.;464;

 

[WaterShuriken]

So yeah Iris will not use the feathers. She's sending them to Dragon Village via the Pidove Delivery Service.

 

[Graham Aker]

Wow, that sub came out quick.

Anyway, I guess Iron Tail did do alot of damage since Excadrill was apparently losing alot of strength according to Iris. Yay, for Pikachu I guess?

Is this like the first time a victory theme has played when Ash/Pikachu lost? That's actually somewhat funny when you think about it. Was Ash the villain here lol?

 

[Pepsi_Plunge]

Silverperegrine no need to touch that, I wrote what I did with the assumption that everyone would agree it was horrible XD.

Saw the sub too and Don George put a lot(maybe some) focus on Excadrill having an huge advatange type wise against Pikachu and yeah Iris sends the feathers to her village so we won't get to see them used, when I saw them encased I though right away that she wouldn't be using them but I guess this confirms it.

Really liked all the rivals goodbyes and interactions in this episode too, Luke has pacience I've got to give him that, I would have picked up my Zorua and tell her to be spoiled somwhere else XD, she says she is going with Luke at the end of the episode so she can spend some more time with Zorua, damn I really hope they might travel together and Luke can appear again when she does.

Lol Graham Aker yeah, I though that when I saw it on Keyhole, I was like victory theme Oo(at this point I was thinking of a draw or win to Iris) Satoshi will win and then loses, they sure fooled me.

 

[Janovy]

Is this like the first time a victory theme has played when Ash/Pikachu lost? That's actually somewhat funny when you think about it. Was Ash the villain here lol?

The same thing happened in the finals of the Sinnoh GF. Dawn's theme started playing but she lost the battle at the very end against Zoey.

 

[MetalFlygon08]

This doesn't seem right..a sidekick never won a tournament this huge except when Ash was with,

Whirl Cup

10Char

 

[Banana Knight Arthur]

So yeah Iris will not use the feathers. She's sending them to Dragon Village via the Pidove Delivery Service.

Is this for real or a joke?

That is a waste, I'm sure using them on Kibago would have been a better option.

 

[MetalFlygon08]

mabye the village is destroyed and the feathers are returned , heck she should've sent them via tranquil, it would explain any absence she could've had.

 

[WaterShuriken]

Is this for real or a joke?

That is a waste, I'm sure using them on Kibago would have been a better option.

Its real. 10charlimit

 

[CupidKirby]

Just saw the episode, and this was probably one of my favorites of the 4-parter.

Hey, people complain that BW Ash hasn't gotten a one-sided win this saga yet, so the first 10 seconds of this episode gives it to us. Not a good one, but beggers can't be choosers.

For the people saying Iris winning left a bitter taste? I'd have to agree, though for completely different reasons. I'm a bit of an Iris fan myself and her winning against Pikachu in the finals was nice, but how she got to finals is what annoys me. All of her matches felt rigged in a way...except for Pikachu vs. Excadrill. Iris doesn't need plot hax to win, dang it!

Anyway, the battle itself was okay. The best part was probably Pikachu's spin-irontail since it did show that Ash learned something from past regions. And I don't get why people keep calling out Ash for his pokemon choice. When he signed up his 3, he didn't know he was going to face Iris. And when he called Pikachu the 'captain' in one the previous episodes, that was pretty much promising him that he was going to be used in the finals. Which makes sense, as Pikachu was his most experienced Pokemon. And when this whole Pikachu vs. Excadrill thing happened, Excadrill was called after Pikachu was already out. And Ash and Pikachu fared pretty well for being at such a disadvantage.

Anyway, other than the tournament feeling a bit rigged for Iris, I have no real complaints about it. Burgundy's enigmic moment about Cilan was nicely done.

 

[The sandwich]

All of her matches felt rigged in a way...except for Pikachu vs. Excadrill. Iris doesn't need plot hax to win, dang it!

I know what you mean, but how was Emolga's battle against Sawk rigged?

 

[CupidKirby]

I know what you mean, but how was Emolga's battle against Sawk rigged?

Volt Switch working, Emolga listening to Iris, being able to take so many direct hits and not faint even though it's a relatively new fighter, etc.

On Iris' part only, that match against Sawk was good.

 

[The sandwich]

^ Heh, Volt Switch worked because there was only one pokemon in her party at the time. I see your point about the other stuff though.

 

[gohan5]

Volt Switch working, Emolga listening to Iris, being able to take so many direct hits and not faint even though it's a relatively new fighter, etc.

On Iris' part only, that match against Sawk was good.

Actually it's never been stated that Emolga's Volt Switch never worked, she just decided to use the move that way for her advantage. Also, Iris told her not to use Volt Switch like that in the match. Iris did well to avoid using Volt Switch at all, instead using Hidden Power to do damage. Emolga taking so many hits makes sense to me since she had the advantage being part Flying-type. Emolga has been hinted to be a strong battler and this match proved it. I like that Iris was able to keep calm and use Emolga's ability and Sawk's Close Combat in her favor. Good battle and so was the Excadrill vs Pikachu battle.

 

[CupidKirby]

Okay, cross that. I meant how Emolga used Volt Switch. Usually she likes hitting random objects or the ground beneath her, missing her opponent completely. But I guess that's more towards her issue with not listening to Iris =/

@The sandwich: Volt Switch doesn't switch out pokemon if the opponent is KOed by the attack. Iris pretty much pulled off a risky move by using it since she'd pretty much be disqualified if Emolga was switched out.