Arceus3000
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so much for getting our morals from god if we all receive different ones. you failed to prove your own statement.
The morals are now different due to choice, which God gave us. You have not read the bible.
so much for getting our morals from god if we all receive different ones. you failed to prove your own statement.
The morals are now different due to choice, which God gave us. You have not read the bible.
(Assuming that you mean that DNA is proof of evolution because animals that supposed evolved from each other have similar DNA) Let me give you a metaphor I used earlier:the main branches of evolution contain the following:
- DNA
- embrology
- similar bone structures
and many more.
Am I playing Pokemon right now? No I'm not. I'm trying to show people the way to the light.Isnt playing pokemon a distraction from god or the worship of a false idle? Shouldnt you be praying some where right now?
Who said I worship Pokemon? Not true at all. I know they are false. Get your facts straight.Isnt playing pokemon a distraction from god or the worship of a false idle? Shouldnt you be praying some where right now?
Good job. Pokemon distracs you from god now go repent before its too late!God tells us to go and spread the news of Him. That's what I'm doing.
Good job. Pokemon distracs you from god now go repent before its too late!
i dont see what this has to do with DNA. DNA shows that everything is related and youve yet to show SCIENTIFIC evidence of intelligent design.If you go into your neighbor's backyard and see that they have a small blue doghouse, a small blue treehouse, a blue shed, a blue garage, and a large blue house that all have the same design would you say 'Oh, they all must have started as doghouses then gradually from wear and tear by the earth's forces increased in size and development' when it's much more likely that they all had the same designer instead?
Common knowledge. Have you ever seen anything that has not be created? Every earthly/worldly thing has been created in some form or another. The only thing that was not created was God (because God is not worldly). You cannot say "well something had to create God". God's power cannot be put into humanistic terms.
My religion never changes because it right. Science is not always right, so it changes.ergonomic: science changes all the time because scientists themselves are infallible; but the fact that science can correct itself just makes it even more reliable compared to religion.. which asserts things, leaves more questions, and never changes. why does it never change? because it's not falsifiable, and if you cant possibly falsify a statement, you're free to do whatever you want.
This just goes back to your previous posts.in science, there are ways to prove others wrong. there are systematic developments that advance our knowledge about the world and if they didnt exist i honestly ask you how on earth do you type here?
No, DNA shows that all living creatures have it. A dog has dog DNA, that will never change. Tell me, has a scientist ever witnessed evolution?i dont see what this has to do with DNA. DNA shows that everything is related and youve yet to show SCIENTIFIC evidence of intelligent design.
Fossils have yet to prove the existence of evolution.Error you need to understand what science is before you challenge it. it is a process; it is not a 'club' of people who purposely attack religion. evolution is also not a guess but rather a discovery. it didnt come out of thin air but interpretations of facts such as fossils, DNA, and bone structures.
Perhaps science is, but evolution, no.fact is, science is the reason you're typing here and probably why you and some family members are alive yet religion only comes into play based on what you believe.
but science has already worked for everybody here. so my question to you is, and to hopefully not have another war of quotes at me (and please, one at a TIME this time), anything at all, that i can sense with any of my 5 senses using science, that exists a christian god (i'm not interested in debating a vague 'creator' but a specific entity here).
A theory in science is a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact. See, theories can be accepted as facts even if they aren't.also what some of you dont (and no christian ever will) understand is what a theory is in a scientific context.
Wait what? So you accept the fact that God is not of this earth, if at all?Hammerheart said:I dont think you understand me. I mean just cause we cant handle the concept of something not being created doesnt mean it cant happen. The whole everything has to be created may only be a 'rule' that aplies to earth. so werever god is (if indeed anywere), this may not be the case.
And the other obvious answer is We created god.
1) fossils prove the slow change of many animals if you bothered to look. come on; show me a sequence of fossils and try to tell me you cant see anything funny about them.Ergonomics said:Fossils have yet to prove the existence of evolution.
DNA, like previously stated, is different for allanimals.
Bone structure? If we all have the same bone structure, shouldn't we all be sentient?
oh by the way, the only reason religion doesnt change is because nobody can change; you cant disprove most of the claims (and most of them remain unproven) things about it yet with science since you can disprove many theories and calculations, you can always trust it because you have evidence to rely on.Ergonomic said:My religion never changes because it right
Ergonomics, one topic at a time.. please.
now please, give me the definition of theory out of a scientific dictionary before you comment once more.
1) fossils prove the slow change of many animals if you bothered to look. come on; show me a sequence of fossils and try to tell me you cant see anything funny about them.
2) DNA is different for a lot of animals, but the similarity in many that are already close together can't be denied.
3) we dont all have the same bone structure, but many animals animal groups and kingdoms share similar bones that do different things depending on the environment.
you honestly think weathering would shape the entirety of an animal? ever seen a rock do this multiple times? we dont really study 'weathered away' fossils. they study fossils that are fully intact (and they can honestly tell if they are or arent since weathering can actually be traced).1. Fossils, bones, etc. change over time due to weathering. Tell me, when you put a rock in a river does it stay the same? I seriously doubt it.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/section4.html#DNA_redundancy2. Okay you are right, there are similarities...but that does not mean that the similarities prove that they are related.
how so?3. Maybe the bones were already made for their purpose then the animals moved to where it would be most effective. This theory does seem to make a bit more sense than the animal not having something necessary to survive yet it still somehow has many descendants.
We have; multiple times. You just choose not to accept it, I guess.now please, give me the definition of theory out of a scientific dictionary before you comment once more.
No, fossils prove microevolution, not macroevolution.1) fossils prove the slow change of many animals if you bothered to look. come on; show me a sequence of fossils and try to tell me you cant see anything funny about them.
Contradiction right there. Yes, the DNA for a panther would be similar to that of a lion. But not exact, obviously.2) DNA is different for a lot of animals, but the similarity in many that are already close together can't be denied.
But your science just stated that all mammals have similar bone structure...3) we dont all have the same bone structure, but many animals animal groups and kingdoms share similar bones that do different things depending on the environment.
I say, therefore, evolution is not reliable. How can you put your faith in something that is constantly revising its theories?oh by the way, the only reason religion doesnt change is because nobody can change; you cant disprove most of the claims (and most of them remain unproven) things about it yet with science since you can disprove many theories and calculations, you can always trust it because you have evidence to rely on.
2+2=4. Oh, this can't be falsified, it must not be scientifically possible.if something is able to be falsified, then it is scientific.
Microevolution. Not macro. The viruses are adapting to the constant attack of the body's immune system. Wow...say, for instance, i said the reason we cant find vaccines for viruses is because of their constant changing (evolution, basically).
source it instead of giving me your personal definition. please or i wont debate something you arent referring to.We have; multiple times. You just choose not to accept it, I guess.
did you not just ignore those middle-fossils? what are they then?No, fossils prove microevolution, not macroevolution.
i dont.. see a contradiction. the whole point is RELATION man.Contradiction right there. Yes, the DNA for a panther would be similar to that of a lion. But not exact, obviously.
no, you're misinterpreting me: bone structure is the framework of our bodies (as in, the human bone structure is upright), but the BONES are still similar.But your science just stated that all mammals have similar bone structure...
science as a whole revises theories. evolution as of today has yet to revise anything significant even if you want to go that route.I say, therefore, evolution is not reliable. How can you put your faith in something that is constantly revising its theories?
this is math; not science.2+2=4. Oh, this can't be falsified, it must not be scientifically possible.
yes wow evolution. see it work!Microevolution. Not macro. The viruses are adapting to the constant attack of the body's immune system. Wow...
A theory that has been accepted for thousands of years is what I'd prefer to believe over a theory that has only been accepted for like a hundred years and is constantly being revised.oh by the way, the only reason religion doesnt change is because nobody can change; you cant disprove most of the claims (and most of them remain unproven) things about it yet with science since you can disprove many theories and calculations, you can always trust it because you have evidence to rely on.
if something is able to be falsified, then it is scientific.
which do you think would 'stay right'?
Microevolution/natural selection =/= macroevolution in any way, shape, or form, sorry.yes wow evolution. see it work!