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The Creed of the Dragon

Discussion in 'Pokémon Guilds' started by fitzy909, Jul 4, 2014.

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  1. Mr.Y

    Mr.Y O)_(O

    I'm going with Landurus-T
  2. Lord Fighting

    Lord Fighting Bank Ball Collector

    Voting swampert if there's no aqua rabbit to vote for.
  3. Murder Doll

    Murder Doll Button Presser

    I heard u like Swampertz

    (My vote in bold)
  4. Zephraxe

    Zephraxe Well-Known Member

    Swampert?! We don't need no stinkin' Swampert! Actually... Yes. Yes we do. My vote goes to Swampert.
  5. Mr.Y

    Mr.Y O)_(O

    Well, I think we have a full team now with Swampert. What's next?
  6. DarkForce

    DarkForce Unknown Trainer

    I think we can start testing the team out and see how well it fares, then make any appropriate adjustments.
  7. fitzy909

    fitzy909 Just another guy

    We test the team, that's what next. We have a full team now, so I guess we should get a few people testing it. We need to run through some battles and find out what works and what doesn't. What Pokemon does this team struggle with and why? Also, if a Pokemon has two+ suggested moves for one slot then test out which one works best.

    Also, the final team:


    Politoed @ Damp Rock
    Ability: Drizzle
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
    Bold Nature
    - Scald
    - Encore
    - Toxic
    - Rest


    Ludicolo @ Life Orb
    Ability: Swift swim
    Modest nature
    EVs: 252 SAtk/ 244 Speed/ 8 Hp
    - Scald/Hydro Pump/ Surf
    - Giga Drain
    - Ice beam
    - Rain Dance/ Leech Seed/ Hp-Electric/ Focus blast


    Magnezone @ Choice Specs
    Ability: Magnet Pull
    EVs: 172 HP / 252 SpA / 84 Spe
    Modest Nature
    - Volt Switch
    - Hidden Power Fire
    - Flash Cannon
    - Thunderbolt


    Gyarados @ Gyaradosite
    Trait: Intimidate → Mold Breaker
    Adamant/Jolly nature
    EVs: 4 Hp/ 252 Attack/ 252 Spd
    - Waterfall
    - Earthquake
    - Ice Fang/Stone Edge/Dragon Tail
    - Dragon Dance


    Toxicroak @ Black Sludge
    Trait: Dry Skin
    Adamant/Jolly nature
    EVs: 180 Hp/ 252 Attack/ 72 Spd
    - Drain Punch
    - Sucker Punch
    - Poison Jab/ Substitute
    - Swords Dance/ Bulk Up


    Swampert @Leftovers
    Ability: Torrent
    252 HP / 252 Atk/ 4 Def
    Adamant Nature
    - Stealth Rocks
    - Waterfall
    - Earthquake
    - Avalanche​
  8. Bakphoon™

    Bakphoon™ Heated Fury

    Great team! Can't wait to see a match with it.
  9. Mr.Y

    Mr.Y O)_(O

    I tested the team on PS, and while I'm on the low ladder and showdown bugged my Choice Scarf, making me not get the speed boost (which cost me two games) I can already see the problems that this team has. First of all, Toxicroag is just too slow and frail for OU and lacks coverage. It can't even set-up safely on Ferrothorn as even Power Whip can break its subs on one hit. IMO, he really needs to go as he can only really put in some work in very few matches. Swampert also isn't as good as you guys might think, it's actually two hit KOed by many 'mons and doesn't do enough damage to them. We will probably need another SR. Politoed really NEEDS someone else that can set-up rain, and Ludicolo can't do this job. In the rain that thing is a true MVP, but outside of it it can't do anything most of the times, so setting up rain with it is a no no. Magneton needs a scarf, amd full speed investment, as this team is just really slow and we need something that can actually outspeed Excadrill without needing rain. Gyarados and Ludicolo are the MVPs but we need something to check bird spam (no, Magneton doesn't check it as it takes too much damage during the matches) and 'mons that can take electric attacks with ease.
    To be honest, half of the team is really good, while the other half really brings it down.
    Some threats are: Greninja, Landorus, Manectric, Thundurus, Ferrothorn, Talonflame and anything that is fast and can hit hard.
  10. fitzy909

    fitzy909 Just another guy

    My first match I won due to Swampert's Waterfall causing major flinch hax. That was hilarious. My second match was very close. Skarmory I could have dealt with if Magnezone wasn't dead. Mega-Manectric also provided some challenge, again due to Swampert already being knocked out. Toxicroak is struggling, I can see that. It suffers from being a bit too frail to actually make use of its setting up moves. I also agree that we need a way to set up rain once Politoed dies, and it really shouldn't be Ludicolo.

    Third match: A Breloom gave me a bit of hell. I had trouble dealing with the sleep from spore and mach punch.
    Last edited: Oct 1, 2014
  11. DarkForce

    DarkForce Unknown Trainer

    I haven't extensively tried out this team that much, but I did run into a sun team with Charizard-Y and it basically wrecked this team. The major problem was that none of the Pokemon was fast enough (Ludi can't Swift Swim under sun, and Toed can't handle Solar Beams well). There were also other matches in which Toxicroak can't even get a good setup simply because there were way too many Pokemon that could outspeed and kill it.

    Thus, I suggest that Scarf Landorus-T be put somewhere on the team; it can take care of Charizard-Y, revenge-kill with its great speed, and provide a good switch-in to many electric-types that could pose a threat. This is just my opinion so far, so I'll try to test this team out more.
  12. Murder Doll

    Murder Doll Button Presser

    I realize Landorous is good, but isn't kind of a bad idea to put something water weak into a team made to boost water type moves?
  13. SilverChiko

    SilverChiko Protect The Smiles!


    Well, seems we're still on the rain team. :/

    I might give it a shot later, who knows?
  14. ace-of-aces

    ace-of-aces Minecraft YouTuber

    Me Too. School and other things don't leave me alot of time, and because of this and the fact that I can't understand most of what is being said here, I am leaving this guild. Sorry. I just feel like i'm holding it back with my lack of knowledge. All of you can still message me whenever, that has not changed. Hope to talk to all of you sooner or later, but until then, Farewell.
  15. Mr.Y

    Mr.Y O)_(O

    Landorus-T isn't a Zard Y counter, it can't come in directly into it otherwise it will probably be KO'd by a fire blast, or leave it at really low health

    You do not want to let Landorus take SE damage anyway. We also have a ton of switches for water types. It has good synergy with the team and should be tested, it can't be worse than Toxicroak at least.

    IMO, Toxicroak and Swampert need to leave and Magneton needs a scarf. A thing to consider is switching Magneton and M-Gyarados for Belly Drum Azumarill and M-Manectric.
  16. Kuvario

    Kuvario I am who I am...because of them.

    Sorry for not coming here often, but I've returned with a new topic.

    Since Mega Rayquaza is supposed to have an ability that makes super effective attacks on flying Pokemon useless and learns the most powerful flying type move as well, how do you see this changing the metagame?
  17. Bakphoon™

    Bakphoon™ Heated Fury

    Hm, Mega Rayquaza's 4x weakness is now 2x thanks to Delta Storm.
    But, will Castform somehow have a new form or not?
  18. Nikomajor

    Nikomajor *Psystrike*

    Don't think he will.

    I'm not too fond of Mega Rayquaza's design but the new move Dragon Ascent makes up for it.
    And the new weather condition would definitely change a couple of things.
  19. fitzy909

    fitzy909 Just another guy

    Rayquaza's from is pretty awesome in my opinion. I'm interested to see what Dragon Ascent does. I know it reduces both defensive stats, but other than that....nothing. I assume it must be Flying and Dragon, due to it being flying type, but called Dragon Ascent. (Not accent as I first read it) Still, I'm very interested in the lore that seems to be arising around the Primal Kyogre and Groudon and Mega Rayquaza. It should be interesting to gain more back story on them.
  20. Murder Doll

    Murder Doll Button Presser

    It's Japanese name is Finishing Blow though
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