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The Doctor Who Club v.2

Discussion in 'Clubs' started by elyvorg, Jul 13, 2008.

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  1. elyvorg

    elyvorg somewhat backwards.

    He's like fire and ice and rage. He's like the night and the storm at the heart of the sun.
    He's ancient and forever. He burns at the centre of time, and he can see the turn of the universe.

    And... he's wonderful.

    Welcome, Whovians, to the second incarnation of the Doctor Who club! This is the place for anyone to discuss, speculate on and generally ramble about Doctor Who and its spinoffs, Torchwood and The Sarah-Jane Adventures. The previous club had an inactive owner and a backlog of nearly 150 pages, so we're starting afresh. I am your new owner, and the Co-Owners are Anyone 4 Buttons? and UltimateNagash.​

    General Rules

    1. Follow the SPPf rules and the Club forum rules.
    2. Respect all other members.
    3. Respect all episodes, characters, writers, etc., even if you happen to dislike them.
    4. Please try to keep grammar and spelling legible. It doesn't have to be perfect, but make sure we can understand what you're saying.
    5. Keep all discussion related to Doctor Who or its spinoffs.
    6. Follow the spoiler rules below:

    Spoiler Rules

    In the previous club, there had been the occasional (though thankfully not too common) incident where sensitive information had gone unspoilered and people had had their enjoyment of an episode ruined. So with this in mind, I have devised a set of rules for what needs to be spoilered which must be followed at all times. (If anyone has any suggestions for changes to improve these rules, throw them my way.)

    6a. Keep all discussion of events in an episode which has only just aired under spoilers until a week after the broadcast date. This gives anyone who didn't watch it live a chance to catch up.
    6b. The above rule also applies to discussion of the "Next Time" and "Coming Soon" trailers.
    6c. Make sure to spoiler all information about upcoming episodes that hasn't been seen in a trailer. This may include things such as characters or monsters it will feature and the time period it will be set in. There might be people out there who don't want to know even those kinds of details.
    6d. If you have information on future episodes which contains highly spoilerish points, make sure you mention it being highly spoilerish outside the spoiler. There are some people who'll usually click on minor spoilers but won't want to know the more major stuff, and they deserve to be warned.
    6e. Put all discussion of anything you found under a spoiler under its own spoiler, unless your reply doesn't actually refer to any of the spoilerish details.
    6f. For novels and the like, any discussion should always go in spoilers in case someone is in the process of reading it or planning to some day. Blurbs are fine, though.
    6g. At the end of the day, just use your common sense as to what you think people might not want to know. If in doubt, it's best to spoiler it.

    This explanation is here so that no-one can use "I don't know how to spoiler things" as an excuse.

    The easy way: Go to the Advanced posting options and click the button marked "Spoil". Type in whatever you want in the header of your spoiler, click OK, then type the actual content of the spoiler between the tags. Alternatively, type your content first, highlight it, then click the button marked "Spoil".

    By hand: There are two ways to do it if you type out the tag by hand; one has a header, one doesn't. If you don't want a header, type:

    [*spoil]Content here[/*spoil]

    without the asterisks.

    If you do want a header, type:

    [*spoiler=Header here]Content here[/*spoiler]

    again, without asterisks. Make sure you know whether it's "spoil" or "spoiler" you need, as the wrong one will result in the tag not working and your content being visible.

    Joining Form

    Ideally, I'd love for this club to be a place full of lengthy posts rather than shallow one-liners, in order to spark off lots of interesting, fun discussion. While I'm aware that not everyone likes to ramble as much as me, I'd still prefer for people in here to be capable of at least a vaguely fleshed-out opinion, hence there is a joining form to make sure you can do this.

    Why do you like Doctor Who?
    Sure, we all know you like Doctor Who if you're trying to join this club, but what is it about this programme that you like so much? Try and give a good three or four lines of reasons and explanation, 'cause if it's too short I won't let you in until you try again. I always feel like a jerk when I do this, but it just strikes me that someone who can't think of much to say when trying to join a club won't be able to think of much to say when participating in it, either. And hey, if you're a fan of the show, it shouldn't be too hard to think up lots to put here. Characters or monsters you like, and why? Episodes that were your favourite, and why? Don't be afraid to ramble a bit!
    Who's your favourite Doctor?
    A little bit of expansion on this wouldn't go amiss either, but this one's not a requirement for getting in.
    Desired character title? (Optional)
    See below.

    Character Titles

    An idea carried over from the previous club, this is a bit of fun which allows you to claim a character from the Whoniverse whose name you can then use to sign off your posts, etc. Only one person can claim a character, so once it's gone, it's gone. Apologies if this makes anyone miss out on their favourite character, but it seems the fairest and easiest way to do things. Also note that when I say "character", I mean just that: separate characters, rather than other names/monikers/titles for characters who've already been taken (for example, "the Oncoming Storm" is exactly the same thing as "the Doctor" in terms of this).

    All that said, however, if you don't particularly want a character, or if the one you want has been taken and you don't want any others, you don't have to claim a character at all. And the Doctor can only be claimed once - no claiming his separate incarnations, please. Same goes for any other Time Lord or Lady.

    As owner of the club, I get first pick, and I hereby claim Martha Jones. :3

    Member List
    elyvorg [Martha Jones] - Owner
    Anyone 4 Buttons? [Dr. Owen Harper] - Co-Owner
    UltimateNagash [The Supreme Dalek] - Co-Owner
    lunar_espeon [The Doctor]
    storymasterb [Dalek Caan]
    Crasher [Wilfred Mott]
    DieChavsDie [John Smith]
    Brock Phillips [Captain Jack Harkness]
    Shadowmaster Frenzy [General Staal]
    Night_Walker [The Master]
    BlazikenBud [The Human Doctor]
    Gardevoir Girl
    cybermew [The TARDIS]
    diddykong [Brigadier Sir Alistair Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart]
    JammyU [K-9]
    Griff4815 [Rory Williams]
    Zadros [Ianto Jones]
    empress_donna [Dr. Toshiko Sato]
    zeussy [Harry Sullivan]
    the green gardian
    Predictions of Doom [Gwen Cooper]
    Pottsie [Ood Sigma]
    CRAZY WACKO DUDE [The Mighty Jagrafess of the Holy Hadrojassic Maxarodenfoe]
    Darkfall [Chantho]
    LadyMiir [Donna Noble]
    Diddy [The Lupine-Wavelength Haemovariform]
    shadowkiller [Jenny]
    Will-powered Spriter [Angel Bob]
    druboyks [Sarah-Jane Smith]
    Spontaneous Tree [The Isolus]
    Soroft [Professor Yana]
    ianflowforever [A Weeping Angel]
    vareki [The Bad Wolf]
    TurtwigFan1 [River Song]
    ~.:Northern Lights:.~ [Amy Pond]
    harryheart [The Face of Boe]
    -Xu- [Rassilon]
    Kazekage [The Dream Lord]
    SpeedSuicune [Sky Smith]
    Lucario0708 [Jim the Fish]
    JB! [Mr. Smith]
    Armando Payne [A Haemovore]
    MrDuckGuy [The Cyber Controller]
    kjt [Alfie Owens/Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All]
    jenny123 [Jackie Tyler]
    Hydreigon11 [Madame Vastra]
    Katatakat [The Empty Child]
    R. New [Sutekh]
    DarkEmerl123 [Esther Drummond]
    LokiTheGengar [A Headless Monk]
    Kster [Ace]
    BadWolf Churchill [Dalek Sec]
    Dragon Tamer Jaidin [Lady Christina de Souza]
    Dragonfree [Adelaide Brooke]
    TehLulzMastur [Elton Pope]
    Megaton666 [The Flesh]
    Barbeller [The Creature from the Pit]
    Prisoner Zero [Prisoner Zero]
    marioguy [The Valeyard]
    Radiohead [Mickey Smith]
    VampirateMace [Sally Sparrow]
    Mr. Joker

    Hoping you all enjoy it here in the new club,

    Last edited: Jan 7, 2012
  2. Well done, elyvorg, very concise rules. Maybe you could say about what happens if rules are broken / consequences?

    I once more would like to claim the late Dr Owen Harper please. And purely because I want to, I'll also be Arthur the Horse. Thank you.

    I'll also say if anyone else joins, that Captain Jack Harkness is already reserved for previous member; Brock Philips.
  3. lunar_espeon

    lunar_espeon Active Member

    Hiiiii elyvorg,

    I have had an interest in Doctor Who since before the first series, my favourite Doctor being Tom Baker. After watching the most recent series, my favourite incarnation of the Doctor is David Tennant, and I have watched every single episode. If I was unable to watch one, I would always watch it later on demand. I like to come up with ideas of what might happen next. My favourite episode is Blink, it had me on the edge of my seat.

    Would be liking to claim the Doctor, if impossible, I won't claim anyone. I'm not settling for second best.
  4. UltimateNagash

    UltimateNagash I am a glow worm...

    Well, first of all then, I claim the Ninth Doctor. I know you don't like that issue, but they are in actuallity different characters. Sure, they they act similiarly, and have the same resolves, but their personalities are quite different. I mean, look at the First Doctor compared to the latest one. They're getting younger, not older - hmm, do Time Lords age backwards? Lol, don't resolve that one guys and gals :p

    Or, if you're gonna say no, I choose the Supreme Dalek. The one from the latest episodes, The Stolen Earth and Journey's End. Because it looks cool, and sounded good. Even though it was rather ineffective in the end...

    Now, as you might have guessed, my favourite Doctor is the Ninth. That or the First or Fourth. Why? Well, I preffered how Chris behaved with Billie than David did for one thing. Plus he had the great "Just this once, everybody lives" bit. I've watched a couple of the First Doctor episodes now, and I'm really respecting him.

    And that's all I'm going to say for the moment, apart from this: Doctor Who works better than other shows involving other planets because it's not alway Earth that things happen around. Seriously, I always thought in Stargate the Ori struggling to take over the Earth was rather pathetic...

    Jelly baby?
  5. elyvorg

    elyvorg somewhat backwards.

    Anyone 4 Buttons?: That's just it; I'm not sure what consequences there should be for broken rules. For the first five, I think it should just be gentle reminders that they're breaking a rule which will hopefully make them stop, and only some kind of ban if they persistently break them. For the spoiler rules, though, I want to be a lot stricter on them to avoid any incidents like in the last club... but I don't know how harsh to be. Any ideas?

    Anyway, welcome. Would you mind terribly giving up Arthur as a character title? I don't really want people thinking they can have two titles or complaining that you can and they can't. And I want Brock to get Jack too, but I think it'd be unfair to other people to give him preferential treatment over anyone else.

    By the way, everyone, while Anyone 4 Buttons? and UltimateNagash are apparently exempt from completing the form due to being co-owners, the rest of you, including those rejoining, must use the form if they want to get in.

    lunar_espeon: Welcome! That's plenty long enough, and you'll find that we do a lot of speculation here (well, at least around the time of episodes airing; there won't be much for a while).

    Of course you can have the Doctor, seeing that you were first here. No second best, indeed. xP

    UltimateNagash: No, I'm sorry, but I'm sticking with my mindset that the Doctor is one entity (I know his regenerations have wildly differing personalities, but that doesn't change the fact that they're all the same being), so you can have the Supreme Dalek. Besides, it'd be a bit strange if half the members list was made up of different incarnations of the Doctor.

    Apart from that, welcome, and nice introductory post. *takes jelly baby*

    Last edited: Jul 14, 2008
  6. storymasterb

    storymasterb Knight of RPGs

    Hi again everyone.

    Why do I like Doctor Who?
    I like Doctor Who becuase its such a gripping show, especially with season finales like Journeys End and Last Of The Time Lords. I also like it becuase it has so many different characters who conflict in different ways. And finally becuase of the villains who appeared as the first bad guys: The Daleks and the ever famous saying "Exterminate!"

    Who is my favorite Doctor?
    I really like the tenth Doctor becuase David Tennant just really shows how good the Doctor is, as well as portraying his dark side as well. He shows the man who watched Gallifrey and Skaro burn and perish in the flames of the Time War.

    Desires character title?
    I would like to be Dalek Caan, the Dalek who caused his species death.
  7. UltimateNagash

    UltimateNagash I am a glow worm...

    Mwhaha elyvorg. I'm really the Master, and I hypnotised eveyone using a perception filter into thinking I was the Supreme Dalek. And those jelly babies were poisoned! Now I can be owner of this club, and claim the Ninth Doctor!

    *Twirls moustache*

    Ahhh, I'm just joking. I don't mind - it's actually a good discussion. Are the different regenerations of a Time Lord sperate people or not?
  8. Crasher

    Crasher Well-Known Member

    Hi again. Computer virus + Homework = An inactive Crasher.

    Why do you like Doctor Who?
    First off, regenerations. They could change the nicest Doctor you could ever have to the nasiest Doctor you could ever have and back. Next, the fact that it's sci-fi; In a sci-fi show, anything can happen. You could have two of the same person *Wink wink*, travel through time and space and destroy alien gizmos with a small shiny tube that makes a silly noise. There's a lot more but I can't be bothered to write them all down.

    Who's your favourite Doctor?
    4th. He's been described as the Doctor, as well as the fact he likes jelly babies.

    Desired character title?
    Davros. Hey, I like Wilf, but he's not the best character.

    Also, a quick question:
    If someone had claimed Captain Jack, could someone else claim the Face of Boe? (I don't want to claim him, I'm just wondering)
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2008
  9. elyvorg

    elyvorg somewhat backwards.

    DAMN. Fooled! I did wonder whether the jelly baby was offered by the Fourth Doctor or the most recent Master! D:

    On a more I'mma-nitpick-your-references note, the Master doesn't hypnotise people with perception filters (I think that'd be pretty difficult to do); he does it with satellites. Or mind control, but I don't know much about how that works 'cause it's Classic series.

    Oh, the fun you'll have with an owner who has huge gaps in her Who-knowledge.

    That could be an interesting discussion to have before I hit everyone with a really big topic I'm saving for when there's a few more people here. (It's in the same vein as your "Series 3 awards" you did last year, Nagash, except more expansive. So if you were going to do something similar, I'm bagsing it. =P).

    Lemme start off with a fairly brief point. If an ordinary human - doesn't even have to be from the Whoniverse - were to, for example, go in a coma for a while and come out with brain damage that left him or her with a completely different personality, would you consider them a totally separate person from the one that went into the coma?

    storymasterb: You're in, welcome, and Dalek Caan is yours. And can I just say that I love your joining post? Apart from being a pretty nice example of how to get the length I want in, you really hit some good points on the second paragraph. It's this:
    that I just agree with so much. It instantly makes me think of the scene in The Doctor's Daughter where he's cruelly reminded that the Time Lords are gone by Jenny having two hearts. David Tennant gets across the loss and emptiness perfectly, without even having to say a word.

    EDIT: Crasher: (posted while I was posting then I had to go and eat) You're in, and I totally agree with you on the anything-can-happen factor being one of the best things about sci-fi. =D

    *points at Nagash* But... but... he poisoned the jelly babies! D:

    Yes, Captain Jack and the Face of Boe can be claimed separately. To avoid making my view on the Doctor claiming hypocritical, I'll justify it with two things: One, no-one is entirely certain whether they really are the same person or not, and two, for the longest time the fandom had no idea that they had any connection at all, leading us to believe they were two entirely separate characters.

    Last edited: Jul 14, 2008
  10. UltimateNagash

    UltimateNagash I am a glow worm...

    Actually, the Master did use a percepticion filter like effect. He made them think he was Harold Saxon. It is a different form of perception to who he really is, so it is a perception filter. Except it makes him appear to be someone else, not slightly not there. As it were :p
    At least, that's how I view it.

    And to that bit, yes, I guess I would. If I knew them it would be hard for me, but they are a different person as such. It's a bit iffy though, you know? I just hope I don't have to go through either end of that...

    Oh, and I have plenty of different ideas and whatnot, some different theories or whatnot. But just to inform everyone, I'm going to start writing a fanfic at some point some. It's going to be known as Timelock of the Daleks, and I'm not saying any more. Surfice to say it's set before the New Series, but after the Time War.
  11. storymasterb

    storymasterb Knight of RPGs

    Ultimate Nagash, I guess loads of people must think alike. I'm going to write a Doctor Who fic including the Daleks as well! It will detail what happened to a few of the Human-Daleks from Daleks In Manhatten/Evolution Of The Daleks. Suffice to say "They survive. They always survive." apart from that expect to see coal. Lots of coal. Finally you will see another thing, a one shot detailing Dalek Caans rescue of Davros!
  12. lunar_espeon

    lunar_espeon Active Member

    Sooo, is anyone looking forewards to the Christmas episode?
    Cybermen? I seem to remember something about the old Cybermen were defeated by chucking some kind of gold powder into a "cupboard" like thing on their front. Kind of like the bonnet of a car. I'm not sure if the spoiler tags is supposed to go around this information, but oh well.
  13. elyvorg

    elyvorg somewhat backwards.

    Make that three fanfictions! =D

    Well, mine's a lot different from how yours sound. For one thing, it's actually finished and is just receiving some final edits whenever I feel like it. And for another, I haven't based it off any kind of canon storyline - it's just a one-off adventure for the Doctor and Martha in a similar vein to the short stories in the Storybooks, except it's a bit longer (I think) and due to writing most of it during Series 4, I nudged the epicness slightly closer to that of an episode. But it's just a bit of fun, mostly. That said, I'm actually quite pleased with the planet it's set on, which is entirely my creation.

    If anyone would like to read it once I'm completely satisfied with it (though I should probably produce some kind of synopsis; I'll get back to you on that one), drop me a PM. I wrote it for my own enjoyment, so I'm not posting it on any forums, but I will PM it to anyone who's interested (unfortunately in about six PMs as it's just that long).

    I see what you mean about the perception filter now - it worked a bit like one, but it wasn't actually one - after all, shifting someone's perception about a foot to the left is a bit more basic than shifting someone's perception of a person to an entirely different personality.

    And blah on the whole coma thing. Looks like I'll have to try a different tack, so how's about this one: even the Doctor thinks of himself, through all his incarnations, as one person. At Bad Wolf Bay, when he was explaining to Rose about his human self's added ruthlessness, he said, "He's me when we first met," not, "He's my past incarnation." He's made that kind of implication several other times when he's mentioned skirmishes he's had with past monsters; the only times he ever said, "I was a different man," he clearly meant it flippantly. So if the Doctor views all his incarnations as part of the same being (and why shouldn't he?), is it really right to split them up for claiming?

    *cough* Please excuse the fact that the last sentence sounds like some kind of cheesy campaign vid. xP

    But actually, I think the disagreement we have here is less about the Doctor and more about simply what constitutes a claimable character. And if this is the case, I don't know if the debate can ever be resolved. :/

    Chriiiiiistmaaaaas! Actually, I'm not looking forward to it as much as I was for the previous two years, because they didn't give us a nice weird cliffhanger for it at the end of Journey's End. And also because I'm not as fond of episodes set in [spoil]the past.[/spoil]

    ...after spoilering just two words, I'm already starting to doubt the strictness of my own spoiler rules. :/

    EDIT: Okay, so I've made a slight tweak, and now it's okay to freely talk about anything from upcoming episodes that's been seen in a trailer, as long as you're allowed to freely talk about that trailer. Which, for the Christmas one, you are.

    Last edited: Jul 14, 2008
  14. UltimateNagash

    UltimateNagash I am a glow worm...

    Yeah, I think the what are Time Lord thing shouldn't be talked about. Far TOO deep ;)

    And my Dalek story is different: it is set in Ancient Greece, has a blue Dalek Supreme (which also shows a Dalek council for a bit) and more stuff. And the line along the words of "Doctor, it's raining."
    "No, it can't be. We have to leave. Now."
    And it's not an H2O scoop :p
  15. Glajummy

    Glajummy Why so S E R I O U S

    I saw this thread and decided, since I was bored, to actually watch a few of episodes of this show... and if it weren't for the fact that I'm extremely tired, I'd continue watching it. I never watched the original series but I'm surprised I never heard about this show. If you haven't figured it out yet, I'd like to join!
  16. DieChavsDie

    DieChavsDie Well-Known Member

    Woop Woop. Tried to find this club yesterday after the other one was closed, but it wasnt open then :( Well, I is joining nows :D

    Why do you like Doctor Who?

    I think possibly the biggest reason that I like Doctor Who is because it truly is never the same each week. It is everything and more you can expect from a Science-Fiction Show, and the fact that it has lived for so long proves that it is, like the Daleks (;)) never going to die. And then there is the Doctor himself. He is the PERFECT character, as, unlike characters in other shows, who would have gone stale after however long its been since "The Unearthly Child", the fact that the Doctor CAN regenerate, and henceforth change his character is the PINNICLE of Doctor Who's success, alongside the changing of companions. Rather than sticking to the same 2 actor/actress, the fact the show can "regenerate" itself, is what has made the Doctor so good, and is the reason I watch the show

    Who's your favourite Doctor?

    I must admit, I havent watched much/any of Hartnell/Troughton/C. Baker/McCoy/McGann, I have watched Pertwee/T. Baker/Davidson/Eccleston/Tennant. I must admit though, as brilliant as the two new series Doctor's have been, none can outshine Pertwee :D

    Desired character title? (Optional)

    John Smith again (The Doctor's Allias, not the "Character" in Human Nature)
  17. elyvorg

    elyvorg somewhat backwards.

    Heh, can't see Daleks using H2O scoops, somehow.

    Glajummy: It's great to see someone who just randomly decided to watch some episodes having never seen Doctor Who before and got instantly hooked. =D But I'm afraid I can't let you join until you fill in the form on the first post.

    DieChavsDie: Wahey for another great introductory post, and welcome. I'm not sure if you should be able to claim John Smith the alias, though, as it's not really a character at all. You might as well try to claim "Spartacus" from The Fires of Pompeii. xP I always assumed your title of John Smith in the old club was the Human Nature character, but as it isn't... Anyone else you'd like?

    Last edited: Jul 15, 2008
  18. storymasterb

    storymasterb Knight of RPGs

    Time Flight (the Dalek Caan one shot) is now in the non Pokemon fics section if anyone wants to read it. I will begin writing the other fic as soon as I can (as in once I finish Journey of a Champion and Mysteries of Evolution, the new story I will start after Journey of a Champion.) I for one am going to enjoy the Christmas ep as its been two series since we last saw the Cybermen. After all, they are the second best monsters in Doctor Who.

    Edit: The other fic is now cancelled until I can actually post a story without someone (points finger at Yami Ryu) can manage to do at least a partly good review.

    Apparently I should stay in Pokemon fics (My Daleks are just as evil as the real ones, shells of themselves, yeah right!). I am not writing a non Pokemon fic until said (nearly 0% chance) event occurs.
    Last edited: Jul 15, 2008
  19. lunar_espeon

    lunar_espeon Active Member

    Hm, I've always wanted to have a go at writing fiction, but I'm not too good with words as such. It'd be really fun just planning out the story and everything, though I have no idea what I'd ever attempt to write about.
  20. elyvorg

    elyvorg somewhat backwards.

    So I just realised that bees really are disappearing in the real world. I swear I did not know this before. :O

    Still, we all know where they've gone. =D

    Topic time! Because I feel like posting it now. Due to its potential length, I'd prefer if any new joiners wait until they're accepted before answering it.

    So, the topic is basically to fill in your opinion on the "Series 4 Awards" I've listed below. I've gone a bit nuts on various categories, so don't feel that you have to do all of them if you can't be bothered; just pick a few. As I'm forever going to be encouraging in this new club, it'd be great if you could leave a sentence or two explaining why, as well - see if it sparks off a bit of discussion.

    Kudos to UltimateNagash for doing something similar last series and giving me the idea. I've expanded it and removed the "worst" ones, because I don't like encouraging negative opinions on the show. Go figure.

    Scary and creepy are different things in my book. If you see them as the same, combine the two.

    Best Actor
    Best Actress
    Best Episode
    Funniest Episode
    Scariest Episode
    Creepiest Episode
    Cleverest Episode
    Most Edge-of-Seat Episode
    Best Moment
    Funniest Moment
    Scariest Moment
    Creepiest Moment
    Most Edge-of-Seat Moment
    Saddest Moment
    Most Heartwarming Moment
    Best Humourous Line
    Best Serious Line
    Best Monster
    Best Music

    and, of course, the Honourable Mention.

    I'll post mine at some point, but not right now because I don't want the post introducing the topic to be swamped with my own opinions.

    Last edited: Jul 15, 2008
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