Night_Walker
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Now, for some two weeks late analyzing of Amy's Choice
Well, that certainly lived up to my expectations.
Although, even if I hadn't known in advance, I think I might have picked up on the Dream Lord being the doctor. There were just so many hints! "Theres only one thing in the universe who hates me as much that", the dream lord using 'our' when describing companions, the insight that no-one has had into the doctors motives before now.
Although, I guess I was cheating a bit, since I was paying extra special attention to everything the dream lord said.
I dont really have anything to say that hasn't been gone over to death, really D=
Well, I did like the interactions between the Doctor and the Dream Lord. It once again brought up stuff that the doctor doesn't want to face. If he can help it, he doesn't like seeing his old companions again, once they've left the TARDIS for a bit. Back in 'School Reunion' he was perfectly happy to leave Sarah Jane without telling her, although that went down the drain when there was all the recognition. Thats one of the things that he doesn't want to face about himself, so thats one of the things the dream lord was made up of.
Amy's lines were pretty awesome in that regard, with "Why would you ever give up this"
The second big thing I noticed was that Amy had actually made up her mind in regards to who she wants to be with. Even before Rory 'Died'. Like when Amy was in the TARDIS world, and the doctor and rory were in the Leadworth world, she pulled up the poncho for rory, but not on the doctor. Small stuff like that show lots =)
I would like to say that I do not have perfect memory, so any and all discrepencies in regards to quotes are just a result of poor recollection
elyvorg, here be my reasoning
well, when you think about similiar situations to the creepy vampire fish trying to take over venice, the doctor has always rushed to humanitie's defense.
But when you look at his face, while he talking to rosanna, its not anger, or determination on his face. Its more like...curiosity
If I still remember it properly, he turns to leave before he asks for Isabella's name. thats when its certain he's got our backs.
before that, it could have gone either way...
And ~.:Northern Lights:.~, I don't always put it in that particular way, but I always put Bad Wolf in my posts somewhere =D
Till next week then
Ah someone who's only just watched Amy's Choice.
"Hmm, so what shall we call me?"
"But then I've always been able to see through you Doctor."
"Drop it. Drop all of it. I know who you are."
"Course you don't."
"Course I do. No idea how you can possibly be here but there's only one person in the universe who hates me as much as you do."
"And I'll spend some time with our lovely companion."
I have to agree I think there was more then enough within the episode to tell us that the Dream Lord was a version of the Doctor, even knowing his identity prior to the show I found some lines just seemed to jump out and scream "The Dream Lord is The Doctor".
Heck even dialling it down to the Dream Lord's choice of name, which kinda mirrors the mystic of "The Doctor" and "Time Lord":
"I'd love to be impressive, but Dream Lord. It's all there in the name; spooky, not quite there and yet very much here."
After all:
"Hah, the Pandorica. That's a fairytail."
"Aren't we all, Doctor?"
Really like your observations about the interaction between the Doctor and the Dream Lord. He really got under the Doctor's skin with everything he said, as was evident when the Doctor ducked Amy's question of if he believed the comments the Dream Lord made about him throughout.
Excellent point about how the Doctor really doesn't keep in touch with his former companions after they leave the TARDIS, I thought the Dream Lord was right on with his comment there. But then let's face it we've heard repeatedly from the 9th 10th and 11th Doctors "I don't get older, I just change. But humans you wither and you die." - can understand that he doesn't want to watch that happen.
Amy really shone in this one, and yeah I agree with how it was clear that she had definitely made her mind up - course that's part of why what the Dream Lord says to her is so hurtful (cause she was clearly interested in the Doctor in Eleventh Hour and it seems there's plenty of that even now).
I gotta say I really really want to see the Dream Lord again. But it could be sorta hard to find that many ways to squeeze him into a story.
"But then I've always been able to see through you Doctor."
"Drop it. Drop all of it. I know who you are."
"Course you don't."
"Course I do. No idea how you can possibly be here but there's only one person in the universe who hates me as much as you do."
"And I'll spend some time with our lovely companion."
I have to agree I think there was more then enough within the episode to tell us that the Dream Lord was a version of the Doctor, even knowing his identity prior to the show I found some lines just seemed to jump out and scream "The Dream Lord is The Doctor".
Heck even dialling it down to the Dream Lord's choice of name, which kinda mirrors the mystic of "The Doctor" and "Time Lord":
"I'd love to be impressive, but Dream Lord. It's all there in the name; spooky, not quite there and yet very much here."
After all:
"Hah, the Pandorica. That's a fairytail."
"Aren't we all, Doctor?"
Really like your observations about the interaction between the Doctor and the Dream Lord. He really got under the Doctor's skin with everything he said, as was evident when the Doctor ducked Amy's question of if he believed the comments the Dream Lord made about him throughout.
Excellent point about how the Doctor really doesn't keep in touch with his former companions after they leave the TARDIS, I thought the Dream Lord was right on with his comment there. But then let's face it we've heard repeatedly from the 9th 10th and 11th Doctors "I don't get older, I just change. But humans you wither and you die." - can understand that he doesn't want to watch that happen.
Amy really shone in this one, and yeah I agree with how it was clear that she had definitely made her mind up - course that's part of why what the Dream Lord says to her is so hurtful (cause she was clearly interested in the Doctor in Eleventh Hour and it seems there's plenty of that even now).
I gotta say I really really want to see the Dream Lord again. But it could be sorta hard to find that many ways to squeeze him into a story.
As far as your observation about Venice goes:
Definitely agree with you about how the Doctor seemed curious about how the Sisters of the Water had some to Venice. The species must have been well known to the Time Lords because they both knew a lot about each other and almost got on, until she refused to back down and didn't remember Isabella's name.
As for the people who've seen The Hungry Earth and Cold Blood: You lucky lucky people! They sound absolutely fantastic, and I can barely wait for them to arrive here
Not gonna go looking for them considering they're long episodes so I'll have to stay out of the theories aspect for the moment.
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