Utopianopal
Time Crashes
Well there's always that "Pokemon Eclipse" rumor. I mean It could happen but Marshadow.......really? It's probably gonna be a marshmallow ghost Pokemon and everyone will be salty.
In the past years, Nintendo has broken several traditions already.
- No remake of any past games in Gen V.
- No third versions of BW, instead sequels.
- No third versions or sequels for Kalos AT ALL.
I guess it won't be wrong to assume that Nintendo is in a way to try new things. Therefore, I predict that, that Z version fans have waited for so long will come out after Sun/Moon versions. It is early to predict if remakes will be done, but I am positively almost sure that Z version will come out in a couple of years at top and it will be the sequel of Kalos region just like BW2.
"Trying new things" could simply mean that Game Freak wants to avoid a cliched remake such as Z. If you think about it, Z was an obvious idea, with both Zygarde and the Z-axis.I guess it won't be wrong to assume that Nintendo is in a way to try new things. Therefore, I predict that, that Z version fans have waited for so long will come out after Sun/Moon versions. It is early to predict if remakes will be done, but I am positively almost sure that Z version will come out in a couple of years at top and it will be the sequel of Kalos region just like BW2.
I'm in the realm of thinking that Sun and Moon is its own kind of Z. We do see the Zygarde formes, so its likely that there is a tie in to what was mentioned in X and Y.
Well, since Gen 5 they have been making it a point to do unexpected things. Getting a sequel and no remake in Gen 5, getting no third installment in Gen 6. They may try something else in Gen 7 to continue shaking things up.
It would've been more interesting to see Gen 6.5 instead of Gen 7, that would've also made third versions fresh without having to throw away the benefits of having a region revisit.
I have no idea how "6.5" would have even worked. I still find the concept of a half gen ridiculous.
Gen 6.5 never made any sense. You can't have a new gen with in the current gen. New pokemon should be introduced in a new generation that is not .5 of anything.
Besides, now that Zygarde's forms are in SM, kalos feels like a complete region
Imagine if the Sun and Moon Pokemon were introduced in Kalos and Alola wasn't introduced. That's how 6.5 would work.
And what exactly mandates that they have to do that? They don't need to have a new region to have new Pokemon, they can introduce them whenever they want.
It's much more than Zygarde though. There's a lot of areas and plot elements unrealized and several of them are specific to Kalos. We don't get to explore Southern Kalos, we don't see what those locked doors in the Power Plant are for, we don't see where the Couriway train station goes, we don't know how Xerneas, Yveltal, and Zygarde relate to Kalos' lore and the Ultimate Weapon, we don't know exactly what Eternal Flower Floette is, we don't know what happened to Lysandre, we don't know much about Malva, we see Rhyhorn Racing but never get to do it. That's far from being a complete experience.
Missing the point. If they wanted a gen to have more pokemon then they can just add the old ones to the pokedex. Once they give us a certain amount of pokemon for a gen, that is it and we won't be seeing any new pokemon until a full new gen is announced.
You're missing the point. Adding more old Pokemon to the Pokedex doesn't always shake things up. It worked for BW2 because it was all new Pokemon, but XY was practically the opposite and was overloaded with old Pokemon and had few new ones. So if they threw in more old Pokemon people wouldn't care about them because there's already tons of old Pokemon, but if they threw in new ones that would turn some heads and address actual problems with XY.
And you didn't answer my question. Why do we HAVE to wait for a "full new gen" to get new Pokemon? There's no real reason for that to be a thing, they could've easily changed up the formula in that way.
Because Game Freak should save new pokemon for next gen. Why make new pokemon for the current gen if the next gen would have new pokemon? It makes sense for new pokemon to be released in a full new generation than some half gen.
They don't need to, they can have new Pokemon in a half gen and a full gen.
Do we really need to know about Lysandre's fate? Or the eternal floette? Or rhyhorn racing? I don't think those questions were important enough for Z or this "6.5"
Do we really need to know about Lysandre's fate? Or the eternal floette? Or rhyhorn racing? I don't think those questions were important enough for Z or this "6.5"
We didn't learn anything about Cyrus' fate, and Rhyhorn racing is pretty much just world building.
I'm in the realm of thinking that Sun and Moon is its own kind of Z. We do see the Zygarde formes, so its likely that there is a tie in to what was mentioned in X and Y.
Lysandre's fate isn't exactly necessary, but they could potentially add a lot to the storyline by bringing him back. Eternal Flower Floette, though, is definitely necessary, because it was such a major part of the storyline and they never really explained why this unique Floette with a black and red flower that looks like the Ultimate Weapon is wandering around and why we don't just see one on a regular Kalos route. As for Rhyhorn Racing, the main purpose is content, which is something that was sorely lacking in XY, but they could really flesh out Kalos' culture by showing us what it is and why it exists.
The lack of world building is one of the major problems though. XY's storyline doesn't explain any of the elements they introduce, they mainly just throw them together for the hell of it. They don't offer unique features that make the region distinct (there's nothing like Contests or Secret Bases or Pokeathlon or Join Avenue). The game is completely lacking any sort of depth, and that's what third versions are for. Skipping a third version for Kalos reflects a major drop in Game Freak's standards, it shows they're okay with making half-assed regions now.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but we only know that the new Zygarde forms will be in the database of Sun/Moon, but we don't know that Zygarde will be introduced in the game (I mean if it will be available to be caught or even will be given with events). What if Nintendo wanted to ease plenty of confusions for such things as Wonder Trade or online battles with items and so on?
XY versions were fine.