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The Fallen - Wifi UU Team

Discussion in 'Older Gen RMT' started by Dark-Tyranitar, Oct 31, 2011.

  1. Dark-Tyranitar

    Dark-Tyranitar SAND VEIL HAX!!!

    This team is called "The Fallen" because a lot of it it consists of pokemon that were once OU top tier threats or one of those "pokemon you prepare for" in the metagame.

    So here are The Fallen!

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    Donphan
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Wonder guard! Sturdy
    Ev's: 252 Atk, 252 Def
    Nature: Impish
    - Rapid Spin
    - Stealth Rock
    - Ice Shard
    - EQ

    This guy really hasnt "fallen" but he is good and i needed a spinner for a certain pokemon in my team *cough*Weavile*cough* and Donphan seemed to do the trick. Standard se here, Rapid Spin is to spin those hazards, Stealth Rock is to set up those hazards. EQ and Ice Shard are just 2 attacking moves that happen to be great on Donphan. The EV's in attack i will not change because they have helped me in desperate times.

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    Hitmontop
    Item: Lum Berry
    Ability: Technician
    EV's: 252 HP, 252 Atk
    Nature: Adamant
    - Close Combat
    - Mach Punch
    - Sucker Punch
    - Bullet Punch

    My only other not "fallen" pokemon here. I needed a revenge killer and attacker that would benefit the rest of my team, i love hitmontop, so it was in. Close Combat is hardly ever used for me, but it is helpful for a pokemon switching in expecting the weaker Mach Punch or Sucker. Mach Punch is great with Technician and gets STAB and when it can kill a lot more then i expected it to. Sucker Punch is another priority move that gets good coverage with Mach Punch. Bullet Punch is sort of a filler that is also good for hitting a weakened Scarf-Cross which might destroy this team if played well. Lum Berry because i sometimes lead with this guy and either way status is just annoying on this guy.

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    Zapdos
    Item: Choice Specs
    Ability: Pressure
    EV's: 252 SAtk, 252 Spd (speed)
    Nature: Modest
    - Thunderbolt
    - Volt Switch
    - Heat Wave
    - Hidden Power [Ice]

    A true fallen one, top tier through 3rd gen, great OU in 4th gen, now its a UU that barely got recognition until the Thundurus ban. I love this set, it wrecks enemy teams with prediction, or just destroying late game with T-Bolt. Thunderbolt is just awesome here, STAB, Specs boosted off a great Special Attack is awesome. Volt Switch has good power too, but is mostly there for scouting the opposing team. Heat Wave is a coverage move that hits those pesky steels for super effective damage. HP ice is coverage move for Bolt-Beam. Not too much to say about this set.

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    Dusclops
    Item: Eviolite
    Ability: Pressure
    EV's: 252 Def, 252 SpD (special defense)
    Nature: Careful
    - Pain Split
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Disable
    - Seismic Toss

    The great Dusclops of 3rd gen... ruined by the least needed evolution in the history of Pokemon, Duskinoir. Now in 5th gen, it gains some redemption with eviolite and scrapes by in UU, searching for greatness. Pain Split is recovery that is actually really good with Dusclops's really low HP. Will-O-Wisp helps him be more physically defensive and help counter Moxie-Scarf-Cross. Disable can really mess up choiced Pokemon or walls or anthing really. Seismic toss is to cause some damage. Not much to say here aswell.

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    Weavile
    Item: Choice Band
    Ability: Pressure
    EV's: 252 Atk, 252 Spd (speed)
    Nature: Jolly
    - Pursuit
    - Ice Punch
    - Ice Shard
    - Brick Break

    Not too fallen, but was once in OU but is now in UU, good enough for me. Pursuit is to help with psychic pokemon that think they can destroy my physically built pokemon and Hitmontop. Ice Punch is a nice little STAB move that can be used on pokemon slower than Weavile. Ice Shard is for the ones that can outspeed Weavile. Brick Break is coverage. I chose CB because i needed the extra power and i was bound to be switching a lot anyway.

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    Suicune
    Item: Lefties
    Ability: Pressure
    EV's: 252 HP, 252 Def
    Nature: Bold
    - Scald
    - Calm Mind
    - Rest
    - Sleep Talk

    Wow, this guy has taken a huge fall since 3rd gen, where it was unstoppable, but not powerful enough to be Uber. Now its umm a something? Surf is its only attacking move, since it will be the only one it needs late game. CM is to boost its offensive and defensive stats in one. Rest is for recovery and status healing. Sleep Talk is so that you aren't a sitting lion-dog-bear-thing. Standard set, not much to explain.


    So far this team has done well, winning lots of battles, but its kind of hard to tell if you are actually facing someone good through the find battle button on the PO server, so im posting this! Please Rate!

    Threat List:
    (Will update based off of raters comments)
    green=low threat
    yellow=moderate threat
    red=possible 6-0
    Zapdos
     
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2011
  2. pokemonjeff

    pokemonjeff interested trader

    This team is pretty good. I can't find any obvious flaws. But on zapdos, definetly modest > Timid. In UU he doesnt really need the speed'.

    Anyway. Donphan isn't OU? I swear he was... circling yet again.

    Resttalk on suicune, resttalk was kinda super nerfed. I don't really like it, as you can easily be phased and lose your recovery. Maybe run aqua ring + ice beam instead? slap some lefties on there' and it wouldn't be so slow
     
  3. Ttar's stone edge

    Ttar's stone edge League Legend

    Yeah, its a really good team. However, and this is just my opinion, it might work, would rest talk with calm mind work? cos i thought that there really is not a lot that Suicune can do in that team. Maybe ice beam? That's just me, dont think too much into it.
     
  4. kill and run

    kill and run ShinyHunting Veteran

    Very well built team, as the above poster suggested, maybe trying Ice beam > surf on Suicune, as it does damage to Nidoking and also takes care of Shaymin(one of this team's threat) after a few CMs. Other than that i really dont see any other problems with the team, another option you can do is Taunt>ice shard on Weavile? this will help stop Whimsicott from setting up its trolling stally stuff. Hopefully i helped a little bit!

    ~Kill And Run
     
  5. Dark-Tyranitar

    Dark-Tyranitar SAND VEIL HAX!!!

    noted on the modest change, but rest-talk has been working well for me, i dont think i will change that.

    its a late gamer, it works well with that set.

    umm again LATE GAME, it gets sent out AFTER those pokemon are removed, also, isnt whimsicott OU?
     
  6. kill and run

    kill and run ShinyHunting Veteran

    According to Smogon Tiers http://www.smogon.com/bw/tiers/uu Whimsicott is in fact UU. :)
     
  7. Dark-Tyranitar

    Dark-Tyranitar SAND VEIL HAX!!!

    ohh must have mised it, i will test out taunt then
     
  8. Dark-Tyranitar

    Dark-Tyranitar SAND VEIL HAX!!!

    i need more rates then 2 people

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  9. pokemonjeff

    pokemonjeff interested trader

    Nice to see an update. Regardless, I'v noticed you have a massive weakness to your own zapdos. I'd think hes common in UU, and the moveset you run could ko' 4/6s of your team
     
  10. Soperman

    Soperman The One and Only

    Donphan should have 252 hp EVs. It might make it bulkier?
    If you are running Choice Specs on Zapdos, give it Timid. If you want to keep modest, then run Scarf. Just not Timid and Scarf, or Modest and Specs.
    Give Dusclops 252 Hp, and 128 on both defenses.
    That is all.
     
  11. Swagga09

    Swagga09 Well-Known Member

    drop surf for scald on suicune.
     
  12. UltimateVictini

    UltimateVictini DittoMustWinPrez ⌐_⌐

    wonder guard XP. well, anyways, I didn't see very much flaws with your team and think that it is very good for a UU team.
     
  13. Dark-Tyranitar

    Dark-Tyranitar SAND VEIL HAX!!!

    mmmmk modest because mmost attacks will be hitting pokemon switching in or volt switching, and giving max hp on dusclops makes pain split more likely to do less.

    hmmm, i like that idea, i just might try it

    however, if it has specs, its easier to counter, non specs is not powerful enough for certain members. (not to insult my own members)
     
    Last edited: Nov 3, 2011
  14. Dark-Tyranitar

    Dark-Tyranitar SAND VEIL HAX!!!

    edited front post, added zapdos to possible threat list
     

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