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The Faults of Gen VII

Discussion in 'Pokémon - Generation VII Discussion' started by RileyXY1, May 28, 2018.

  1. RileyXY1

    RileyXY1 Young Battle Trainer

    Well, it's time to this thread to be made. What are your gripes with the seventh and current generation of the franchise?
     
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  2. Satoshi & Touko

    Satoshi & Touko Bringing you joy... and adorableness. <3

    Gripe number one of mine: the fact that this generation has so much hate, both for the games and the anime! >_<
     
  3. Mega Altaria

    Mega Altaria 4th anniversary of ORAS, 16th anniversary of RS

    In my opinion, Gen 7 wasn't one of the worst generations but still had some flaws. I found Poni to be boring to explore before beating the game because it didn't have many locations and Melemele felt quite bland as well, especially when I expected more from Hau'oli City. I didn't feel the additional content in USUM offered much especially when there were a lot of insignificant side quests. I got put off by the Battle Agency in case I level up too much and there are heaps of Rank 0 players, which completely defeats the purpose of the Battle Agency. But at least Defog became a Tutor move.
     
  4. Tsukuyomi56

    Tsukuyomi56 Blizzard Maiden

    Main faults of Gen 7 are the lack of post-game content in SM and making clothes version specific was not the right way to make the two versions different from each other. Not being able to upgrade the Festival Plaza shops yourself and USUM's Battle Agency been near unplayable once you reach high ranks thanks to more Rank 0 players you can shake a stick at (unless you go out of your way to register high ranking players) were also notable faults.
     
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  5. landipan

    landipan Well-Known Member

    The long, unskippable cut scenes! >_<
     
  6. Satoshi & Touko

    Satoshi & Touko Bringing you joy... and adorableness. <3

    SOS battles were something I did not like one bit as I was progressing through the story. Thankfully there was a tweak to them in USUM that made them more bearable.

    Prepares to be had a go at by someone who will just say "you can just paralyze the Pokemon".
     
  7. Emperor Empoleon

    Emperor Empoleon Honor of Kalos

    1) With its infamously sluggish introduction, persistent railroading, or Rotom Dex clogging up your bottom screen with forced advice...SM treats the entire player-base like we're all still in grade school.

    2) Great innovations such as the Player Search System, DexNav or Super Training were all removed or replaced, and in some ways the game is less functional because of it.

    3) Ultra Sun/Moon. After BW2 set a new standard for follow-up games, this sort of release just didn't measure up to me. Especially so soon after the originals.

    4) Megas...Half of them went missing in SM, and the others were given back to us in time limited events. Now they're all available, but...64 BP a piece :/
     
  8. Captain Jigglypuff

    Captain Jigglypuff Leader of Jigglypuff

    Finding UB in USUM is annoying. I only found Xurkitree once. I keep finding the same non Legendary Pokémon!
     
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  9. Leonhart

    Leonhart Disney fanatic

    I suppose that my biggest gripe is how small Alola feels given how few islands there were. Also, I wish Gyms had been available, because Island Trials didn't seem like enough of a challenge to me.
     
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  10. nel3

    nel3 Well-Known Member

    im not a fan of gen7 at all but i really do miss the fact they didnt include all the berries in SM or USUM. they really didnt make the effort to bring all those extra berries into gen7 even though the NPCs can use them in certain battles. i just want all the berries to be put into the game legally and i want that darn custap berry in the game so i can use my Aggron set. i can go on about many more gen7 flaws but i'll refrain from that. gen7 doesnt hold my attention half as much as gen6 did for me, ive lost most of my interest in gen7 within 3 months or so.
     
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  11. M.P.

    M.P. Ghastly Gamer

    I really liked Gen 7 (especially as it removed my biggest gripe of the Pokemon series: HMs), but it did have it's flaws: Constant hand-holding and long, unskippable cutscenes were the most annoying ones, imo: Tutorials especially should've been made optional generations ago. Festival Plaza was a poor replacement for much more handy PSS, and new fishing mechanics made fishing really tedious (good luck getting something else than Magikarp). I wasn't a fan of SOS battles, either.
     
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  12. Xuxuba

    Xuxuba Well-Known Member

    I think my main gripes were the lack of the national dex, the battle facilities being so frustating and unsatisfying, the grinding methods becoming even more repetitive and tiring and the story feeling kind of out of place and a bit of a clusterf**** too.
     
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  13. WalesNote

    WalesNote Member

    I always thought that Sun and Moon were not as 'adventurous' as other titles in the main series. It didn't always seem like an adventure on a large scale since the islands were somewhat small to me, and the professor was always there guiding you throughout each island, and you ended up seeing him very often. Was a bit annoying.

    Not sure what else to say about the faults of the game. All I got.
     
  14. RileyXY1

    RileyXY1 Young Battle Trainer

    The cutscenes were too long and unskippable
    Overly long tutorial
    National Dex being removed
    PSS being replaced with the Festival Plaza
    Rotom Dex is just too annoying
     
  15. Kage-Pikachu

    Kage-Pikachu Well-Known Member

    For me, I guess it would be the length of Melemele Island, there is almost no story focus there other than the intro and I was hoping it would offer more.
    The loss of triple battles was especially irritating since I found them very fun. Also, I dislike how Lusamine's role as a villain was retconned out of Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon...
     
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  16. AuroraBeam

    AuroraBeam Well-Known Member

    The fact that Revelation Dance, learned at lv 40, is the only attacking move of oricorio's non-flying type that it learns is disappointing.
     
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  17. Mega Altaria

    Mega Altaria 4th anniversary of ORAS, 16th anniversary of RS

    Yeah and what's even more disappointing with Revelation Dance is that it can't be used with the Z-Crystal of the type Revelation Dance has become depending on Oricorio's form.
     
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  18. windwakemeup

    windwakemeup Bee Prince

    I actually loved alola! I have gotten a lot of hours of gameplay out of it. [In my opinion, it was miles and miles better than X and Y... If it wasn't for ORAS then I would have hated gen 6.]
     
  19. Kage-Pikachu

    Kage-Pikachu Well-Known Member

    Why did you hate gen 6? Team Flare perhaps or the ease of the games?

    I guess another fault would be that Sun and Moon is that none of the Kahuna's had Pokemon with auras. That made them less difficult than the Totems in my opinion.
     
  20. Mega Altaria

    Mega Altaria 4th anniversary of ORAS, 16th anniversary of RS

    Kahuna battles weren't too hard for those who chose Popplio as their starter because of type advantages on essentially every Kahuna. Maybe the auras can be used to give a heightened sense of difficulty, especially for those who chose Popplio.
     
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